Joe Liberman was almost Vice President of the U.S.

[tgnyc]

Discuss.

[SmokingJacket]

1. Well... better than Cheeney! nt

[sharp_stick]

2. As bad as he is

He would have been one hell of a lot better than that cocksucker holding the office right now. Crashcart is one of the most dangerouse POS assholes I've ever seen.

[n2doc]

12. Not to mention that if joementum were VP

Guess who would Be Prez?:D And Guess who would have been able to nominate Renquist's and O'Connor's replacements to the SCOTUS?:7 And who would not have gone to war in Iraq?
I'd take that any day of the week....:applause:

[tgnyc]

16. How about as president? He'd be lead contender among Democrats right now.

[VelmaD]

3. yup...

and if he had been we wouldn't be worrying about women losing the right to chose an abortion now would we? And we wouldn't have the government illegally wiretapping American citiznes. And we wouldn't be sending soldiers off to die for oil company profits. And we wouldn't have the PATRIOT ACT.

So I for one won't be Joe bashing on this particular thread.

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. I'm STILL kickin' myself for voting for him!

:spank::spank::spank::spank: How could I be so stupid? :spank::spank::spank::spank:

Today, you couldn't pay me a million bucks to vote for the guy. NO WAY.

[porphyrian]

5. I miss the days when everyone could ignore the Vice President. - n/t

[wuushew]

6. The VP has no power

Wasn't it Truman who described it as "not worth a warm bucket of spit"?

With Gore as President 9/11 would not have happened and neither would the Iraq War. Lieberman would be delegated to breaking ties in the Senate and attending funerals for heads of state.


It is possible the extreme right would have assassinated Gore but that is another line of thought.

[NYCGirl]

7. Actually,

that quote was from John Nance Garner, who served under FDR. (I remember because I used the quote here a while back.)

[Norquist Nemesis]

8. Only through coattails

I'm not sure that a person's vote hinges on the #2 of the ticket. Whether one's motivation is because they're "for" the guy or voting "against" the opponent, it is still the #1 person on the ticket that is primary.

VP's don't get elected. They are allowed to come along for the ride.

[wryter2000]

9. I voted for Gore

I was uneasy about Lieberman because of his statement that freedom of religion didn't mean freedom from religion. But, I figured VP wasn't a big deal as long as Gore didn't put him in charge of the First Amendment.

[Jensen]

10. My question is ...What did Al Gore see in Joe ?

I have never understood that!

[against all enemies]

15. Win Florida and Big Money for Campaign.

And let's face it, if those old Jewish voters didn't vote for Pat Bucannan (thank you butterfly ballot) it would have worked. Gore would have been so far ahead Bush couldn't have stole the election.

[Ignacio Upton]

19. Two words: Monica Lewinsky

I remember watching the cable shows in summer of 2000, and they gave almost as much media coverage to Bill Clinton as they did to Gore, and then they would drag pundits on the air to tell us that the voters were suffering from "Clinton fatigue" due to the aftermath of Monica, and how Gore was in "Clinton's shadow," which was a self-fullfilling prophecy when you consider the fact that they would cover TRIVIAL stuff of Clinton almost every day. Because Lieberman criticised Clinton on the Senate floor in a 1998 speech about his affair, Gore thought that by choosing Lieberman, he could neutralize the issue of "Clinton fatigue" once and for all. I think it actually worked to an extent, because in late July and early August, I remember seeing polls that had Bush winning by more than 10 points, and yet after Gore chose Lieberman and had the convention, Gore started showing small leads over Bush, and the race entered a perpetual 50-50 state by the end of August that ended up being a slight Gore victory in the popular vote. Unfortunately, I think that his choice of Lieberman only hurt him on the left, and drove some voters to Nader. In hindsight, I also think that "Clinton fatigue" was somewhat real, mostly due to an electorate on BOTH the right and left (read any of Nader's speeches on how Clinton did not support the base in 2000 and you will see what "Clinton fatigue" from the left was) being complacent with eight years of economic boom and with terrorism a "distant" threat (even though Al Qaida hit the U.S.S. Cole a month before the election.)

[Squeech]

11. Don't forget

The reason Gore nominated him was that Gore felt that he needed to run against the Clenis-- notwithstanding that Clinton's popularity all through that episode was in the 70s-- and Holy Joe had already waxed sanctimonious over the Lewinsky episode.

Not enough of a recommendation for me, thanks.

But I only found out recently that Holy Joe had collaborated with the Gores (especially Tipper) in the Senate hearings on naughty words in rock music. That's the one thing I hold against Gore, but for me it's a deal breaker-- I was one of those misguided Nader voters in 2000, because I'm something of a First Amendment absolutist (and a wannabe rock star).

If Gore is the 2008 nominee, I will vote for him this time (holding my nose). If the Dems somehow nominate Lieberman, I'm emigrating.

[quisp]

13. I really would've rather had that loser

warming a chair as VP than doing the real damage to the Dems by supporting * and allowing him to call his travestys "bi-partisan"

I mean he got a kiss from Bush at the '05 State of the Union address!

[tgnyc]

14. Keep in mind, assuming a Gore re-election, Joementum would now be the LEAD

candidate for the Dem nomination for PRESIDENT in 2008. Thoughts on that?

[Ignacio Upton]

17. A Veep isn't always the strongest candidate

George HW Bush faced a stiff primary in 1988 when Reagan didn't outright endorse him. He even LOST the Iowa Caucus (I think it was to Bob Dole but I don't remember.)

[otohara]

18. Al Gore Made A Mistake

but still he would have been better than Darth Vader