All FReepers/fundies need to watch Soylent Green.

[Jamison]

With them wanting to overturn Roe v. Wade and illegalize all contraceptives, this is the kind of world they are working to create. An extremely crowded, overpopulated world with not enough food, vicious heat waves year-round from global warming, etc. It wouldn't be hard to get them to watch considering it stars one of their heroes, Charlton Heston, President of the NRA. I'm not sure they'd change their minds on abortion, but after watching this, maybe they'd realize contraceptives are a GOOD thing.

[HockeyMom]

1. Children growing up in the streets

That is not out of a fictional movie. It happened in the Depression. I had grandparents and parents who witnessed that. They seem to think that all these unwanted kids will suddenly be WANTED by their parents or that they will be adopted. As someone who works with the severely mentally and physically challenged (over 40 years old), I can see first hand what the REAL answer to that one is. They will become wards of the STATE. THEIR tax dollars will have to pay for these kids or they will be thrown out in the streets. Those times were NOT the Utopia they think they were. The RICH will ALWAYS be able to get birth control and abort unwanted kids, either safely with enough money (therapeutic abortions), or "vacations" out of the country.

They have no clue. As I said on another thread, I do believe they will see a dramatic increase in the number of sterilizations, particularly among married couples, if they ban both BC and abortion. This is the 21st Century. We don't NEED or can AFFORD hordes of children to work our FARMS. People today want to control the number of children they have. Yes, even IN MARRIAGE.

[iamahaingttta]

2. You're operating under a faulty premise...

You say: "...after watching this, maybe they'd realize contraceptives are a GOOD thing."

The problem with your idea is in the word "realize." From Dictionary.com:

re·al·ize
v. re·al·ized, re·al·iz·ing, re·al·iz·es
v. tr.
1. To comprehend completely or correctly.
2. To bring into reality; make real: He finally realized his lifelong ambition to learn how to play the violin.
3. To make realistic: a film that realizes court life of the 17th century.
4. To obtain or achieve, as gain or profit: She realized a substantial return on the investment.

Our unfortunate Freeper/fundie brethren are incapable of comprehending anything completely OR correctly. Therefore, if they WERE to watch Soylent Green, the point of the story would either go over their heads, or more likely, get twisted into something totally different. They would walk away from it thinking "that Chuck Heston was at his peak in that one!" Rather than "by that time, Heston had completed his slide into insanity!"

As far as definition #2 is concerned, Freeper/fundies are, as we all know by now, not connected to reality in any meaningful way. Or even in any non-meaningful way. In any way at all! It's not possible to present a Freeper/fundie with an allegory and have them make any connection between that and whatever point you are trying to get across. Stop trying!

"To make realistic: a film that realizes court life of the 17th century." No Freeper/fundie has ever watched a film about court life of the 17th century. Wanna see a Freeper film? Rent "Red Scorpion" written and produced by our pal Jack Abramoff. A real pleasure! For a fundie film, see Chuck Heston's early work when he thought he was Moses.

Finally, we get to the meat of the matter. "4. To obtain or achieve, as gain or profit: She realized a substantial return on the investment." Ah! that's how you'll get their attention! Profit!!!


(Sweetie and I rented Soylent Green a few months ago... it was as bad as I remembered! Actually, I think I fell asleep...)