State bill proposes Christianity be Missouri’s official religion

[nickinSTL]

reposted from Religion/Theology forum by request

Missouri legislators in Jefferson City considered a bill that would name Christianity the state's official "majority" religion.

The resolution would recognize "a Christian god," and it would not protect minority religions, but "protect the majority's right to express their religious beliefs.

The resolution also recognizes that, "a greater power exists," and only Christianity receives what the resolution calls, "justified recognition."

State representative David Sater of Cassville in southwestern Missouri, sponsored the resolution, but he has refused to talk about it on camera or over the phone.

KMOV also contacted Gov. Matt Blunt's office to see where he stands on the resolution, but he has yet to respond.

http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/030206ccklrKmovreligionbill.7d361c3f.html

(I just tried this link and it didn't work. I originally found the story linked from the KMOV home page: http://www.kmov.com/ )

[EstimatedProphet]

1. What the hell has happened to my home state?

[katmondoo]

3. What is happening to the whole country?

America has gone nuts

[mmonk]

28. America is the new Christian version

of radical Islamic republics. There is NO difference to people of reason.

[WillParkinson]

2. Holy shit....no pun intended.

You knew it was coming. How could you not?

[HereSince1628]

4. Duplicate, here's a link to the other thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=214x53672

[coffeenap]

21. Sorry, I requested it be put here for more people to see. nt

[BlueEyedSon]

5. There is nothing about this on Google news

[nickinSTL]

14. the text of the resolution has been posted

in the other thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=214x53672

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

6. Wow! Does anyone still think fundies don't want a theocracy?

Zealots.

[converted_democrat]

7. I found it.. It's at the bottom under local news..

http://www.kmov.com/localnews/stories/030206ccklrKmovreligionbill.7d361c3f.html

What gall..

[derby378]

8. OK, so which Christian denomination gets the nod?

I nominate the Quakers. That'll show those fundy freaks.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

11. No...pick the Catholics...nothing pisses off a fundy more

:evilgrin:

[FreedomAngel82]

19. Oh that'll be funny

[converted_democrat]

12. You know what, you have something there.. If you make them decide

on denomination they'll fight about it forever and never get the damn thing passed.. They'll fight each other, and they'll get no where.. Very bright idea.. They'll be at each others throats..

[Name removed]

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[Maru Kitteh]

52. Thanks for insulting all people of all faiths everywhere

Way to go with that progressive tolerance. :eyes:

[Maru Kitteh]

53. That would be nice but they're keeping it too vague

for that reason I would guess.

[Nikki Stone 1]

49. This was my FIRST thought. Which Christianity?

///

[hunter]

59. The Amish.

Then they wouldn't need cars or electricity in Missouri.

[jedicord]

9. Are these people so unsure about their religious faith...

that they have to force it on people in an attempt to "prove" they're devoted to Christianity?

Are they really so unsure of their religion that they think it could dissolve in seconds because someone believes differently?

"Trouble no one about their religion; and demand that they respect yours." - Chief Tecumseh

My faith is personal and no one's business. If you believe differently, that's your right, but it will never undermine my belief or make it weak.

[Lexingtonian]

34. that's basically it

This sort of thing is what failing belief systems do. The successful ones don't have to.

Btw, you're being far too Modern and sensible about it. You actually think your God is at bottom humane and personal, respects and loves you, at least most of the time. And lives hidden in the world, available to all people in the occasional moment of revelation, and can be worshipped in many ways and under many names.

These stupid overaged little boys and girls don't actually believe any of that. They don't dare to.

[jedicord]

36. Love your second paragraph.

Especially the last sentence. May I use it next time I get ministered to?

[Lexingtonian]

37. anytime, of course

It's a very ancient tenet. Which the narrow minded and spiritually ignorant/illiterate, as these people always are, find intolerable.

[DarleenMB]

48. Yes. In a nutshell.

Otherwise known as "ye of little faith."

Actually I think it is more a reaffirmation of their beliefs if they can convince other people to believe the same thing.

[bluestateguy]

10. Even our current Supreme Court would strike that down

Souter, Stevens, Ginsburg, Breyer and Kennedy, AT LEAST.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. "Man is the only animal to have found the One True God..several of them."

Mark Twain

[JNelson6563]

15. They should merge with Monohan's cult community

Oh wait, fundies hate Catholics. Nevermind.

Let them all establish their little cloisters and then they can launch holy wars on each other. Oy!

Julie

[TallahasseeGrannie]

16. That's the craziest thing I have ever heard.

Geez

[ihaveaquestion]

17. Can you say "Unconstitutional," boys and girls? n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

18. Oh brother

So Jews, Muslims and pagans aren't in the majority either? So what if it changes in ten years?

[Hubert Flottz]

20. Well For Heaven's Snakes!

Why Don't We Get Drunk And #$%$#! Say Amen somebody!

[Seen the light]

22. I would honestly kick him out of his office

It serves no purpose but to waste time and piss people off and goes against every basic foundation of this country.

[newportdadde]

23. As a Missourian I just want to let you all know, we aren't all crazy.

Infact we do go back and forth between blue and red.

[Wise Doubter]

45. Even before Diebold ??! n/t

[Jacobin]

24. There are people like this in every generation

Thomas Jefferson spent a lot of time fighting these TaliBornAgains in his day.

They are like bad seeds that keep reproducing.

gack

[Webster Green]

26. The bible-thumpers think the Supreme Court is all theirs now....

Now that the chimp has the court packed with religiously-insane zealots, they figure they can get all their idiotic notions passed into law.

Actually, they may be right.

[GreenPartyVoter]

27. Oh, those poor persecuted majorities. Whoever will stand up for them?

:eyes:

[Squeech]

29. WTF

On edit: hit the wrong button.

What I wanted to say was, where was that jurisdiction that voted to make pi equal to three, whether to enforce consistency with the Bible or to make the math easier? Somebody from Missouri might want to file such a bill...

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

30. Catholics #1 (24.5%) of the US population...so that means.......

Fundies will have to follow the Catholic teachings. Since majority rules and all that.:evilgrin:

Largest denominational families in U.S., 2001

Denom. 1990 2001 2004 % total % increase

Catholic 46,004,000 50,873,000 71,796,719 24.5% +11%
Baptist 33,964,000 33,830,000 47,744,049 16.3% 0%
Methodist/Wesleyan 14,174,000 14,150,000 19,969,799 6.8% 0%
Lutheran 9,110,000 9,580,000 13,520,189 4.6% +5%
Presbyterian 4,985,000 5,596,000 7,897,597 2.7% +12%
Pentecostal/Charismatic 3,191,000 4,407,000 6,219,569 2.1% +38%
Episcopalian/Anglican 3,042,000 3,451,000 4,870,373 1.7% +13%
Judaism 3,137,000 2,831,000 3,995,371 1.3% -10%
Latter-day Saints/Mormon 2,487,000 2,697,000 3,806,258 1.3% +8%
Churches of Christ 1,769,000 2,593,000 3,659,483 1.2% +47%
Congregational/
United Church of Christ 599,000 1,378,000 1,944,762 0.7%
Jehovah's Witnesses 1,381,000 1,331,000 1,878,431 0.6% -4%
Assemblies of God 660,000 1,106,000 1,560,890 0.5% +68%

http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#families

[mmonk]

31. It's only one step from Christian state

to defining who is a Christian. Other Christians that may go along with this outrage may be cutting their own theocratic throats.

[Solly Mack]

32. oooh...what a complete lack of faith in god to be so weak in your

belief that you must force your religion on others with secular law

amazing isn't it? we believe in God's law! - but let's use that evil secular law to impose our beliefs!

LMAO

bunch of weak minded theocrats...hypocrites all

[VelmaD]

33. I hope the people who didn't advocate...

standing up forcefully for women's rights or gay rights are happy now that it's their rights that may get trampled.

[ourbluenation]

35. jesuschristonacracker - K and R! eom

[zonmoy]

38. sounds like the

talibanization of america has begun.

[ourbluenation]

39. I still can't believe this BS - someone Rec this one to get it on the

greatest page. Needs one more vote.

[ryan_cats]

40. As a Christian, I am against this.

As a Christian, I am against this. You can't force religion plus you have to be tolerant of other faiths.

Is there going to be a penalty if you're not a member of the sponsored religion.

Finally, what if the religion was Islam? I'm pretty sure they would have a problem with that

[ContraBass Black]

41. I thought this was a paraody.

[nickinSTL]

43. nope, no parody

The text of the resolution has been posted, and it was reported on the St. Louis CBS affiliate.

I only wish it were a parody.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. Are they going to make the Easter Bunny the state animal?

[Wise Doubter]

46. No, a talking snake ---- being struck by lightning

[RagAss]

44. Even with our Supreme Court that gets whacked 7-2

Scalia and Thomas will dissent just for the history books.....

[Canuckistanian]

47. Krishna H. Vishnu, when will this end?

I really feel for you people who have to live with this everyday.

Either there must be some kind of desperation taking hold (they know they're going to lose power) or the nomination of Scalito has emboldened them.

[rpgamerd00d]

50. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"

1st Amendment Violation - law is unconstitutional.

Won't be passed.

No worries.

[kitkat65]

51. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy

name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Matthew 7:22-23

[rpgamerd00d]

54. Democrats should ram this down their throats and sweep the polls

This is an instant Democratic "We Win" card.
Unless they blow it.

[YankeyMCC]

55. We here in Mass

will welcome any non-xian refugees I'm sure.

I'm mean after all we're just a bunch of liberal heathens...hmmm I wonder if I can get one of our legislators to introduce a bill to somehow make that the official philosophy of the state.

edit: fixed spelling

[Radical Activist]

56. How incredibly Un-american.

They should move to a nation more friendly to those kinds of views, like Iran.

[RazzleDazzle]

57. I've seen a lot of unbelievable things in the past 5 years, but this

one is absolutely right up there. Did we stop teaching Civics 101 or something? Or are all the people in the "heartland" now Christian Reconstructionists bent on making the whole country a theocracy and under "biblical rule" which really means stoning people to death like adulteresses, homosexuals, and disobedient chidren?

[Clarkie1]

58. If that passes and is not struck down by the SC, it's time to take up arms

[Fountain79]

60. Just to stir the pot a little....

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Does the first amendment actually state that STATES can not establish a state religion or just the federal government?

[paineinthearse]

61. Is there a MO equivalent to "Thomas"?

I'd like to see a copy of the bill.

[paineinthearse]

62. See similar campaign in KY

Survey questions politicians on Jesus - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=571229&mesg_id=571229

WWJD? :shrug: