Missouri pushing for Christianity as state religion

[adigal]

http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/030206ccklrKmovreligionbill.7d361c3f.html

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"Missouri legislators in Jefferson City considered a bill that would name Christianity the state's official "majority" religion.

House Concurrent Resolution 13 has is pending in the state legislature.

/snip

"The resolution would recognize "a Christian god," and it would not protect minority religions, but "protect the majority's right to express their religious beliefs.

The resolution also recognizes that, "a greater power exists," and only Christianity receives what the resolution calls, 'justified recognition.'"

We are heading very, very, very quickly towards a theocracy now that the states got the green light from the Alito success. Thanks, Dem senators, who did not vote to filibuster that nutjob.

[az chela]

1. another excuse to take away more of your freedoms

This cannot be allowed to happen

[annabanana]

2. Didn't I just read a thread about "all the weird" rising

to the surface? I'm thinkin "yup"

[tishaLA]

3. Even more stupid than the MS and SD abortion bullshit

What the fuck do these idiots think they're doing? It's patently unconstitutional....is this how low they have to go to pander these days?

[thinkingwoman]

10. It's so unconstitutional, that even Scalia won't uphold it.

Seriously.

What a bunch of yahoos.

[BOSSHOG]

4. Who will the state legislature

designate as State Moron?

"Protect the majority's right to express their religious beliefs." Totally infuckingsane.

On occasion a state steps right up and outlunatics Mississippi.

[VelmaD]

5. Poor Mississippi...

and they thought for once they'd be number 1 in something. :(

[Bridget Burke]

8. We Texans are also glad....

When other states prove that political idiocy can be found anywhere.

[VelmaD]

15. oh you know it's coming here...

The special session in a few weeks is supposed to be about school finance...but you know the whackjobs will try to bring up an abortion ban and maybe even something more whacked out than this. Gotta keep that title as the place where stupid ideas in government are born.

[The_Casual_Observer]

6. official "majority" religion

What does that mean, anyway?

If they were to pass something like that, it would confirm every suspicion I have about red states.

[napi21]

7. This law will NOT survive the SCOTUS, with Alito and Scalia

voting NO as well. It doesn't even take a constitutional scholar to be able to read the DIRECT and PLAIN language in the US Constitution on this one.

[BOSSHOG]

9. Let's see

Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion.

YO Missouri Legislature, you can get a copy of the constitution at Barnes and Noble for five bucks. Check out what is commonly known as THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

[villager]

no one knows first amendment -- too busy watching American Idol:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2138991#2143228

[MindPilot]

26. C'mon Chief, get it right!!

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

There, I did that right off the top of my bald-assed head, ain't you proud?

[BOSSHOG]

28. BZ Shipmate

I took the liberty of editing just a tad. I believe the dumbasses in the Missouri legislature pushing this crap would actually be prohibiting the free exercise to all of those tax paying citizens who happen to worship unlike the way the majority does.

I HOPE IT PASSES AND I HOPE WE HAVE A NATIONAL DISCUSSION ON THIS INSANITY.

Can you recite your reenlistment oath off the top of your head?

[MindPilot]

30. LOL! Hell no and why would I want to?!

I agree. We really do need to get this stuff to the fore so it can be exposed for the lunacy it is.

On kind of an aside, I just go bugnuts over the idea of amending the Constitution to prohibit things like flag-burning (or drinking). The Constitution lays out the powers that government has, the BoR limits those powers. It is not a tool to limit or prohibit individual behaviors. It also bugs me when people talk about a government official like the president or a cop having the right to do something. "The officer has a right to search your car." No. That officer may have that power; he does not have that right. People acting on behalf of the government have powers, individual citizens have rights.

Yes, when it comes to the Constitution, I am pedantic. :patriot:

[BOSSHOG]

31. My heartwarming advice to insane conservatives

DON'T FUCK WITH MY CONSTITUTION.

Along the lines of what makes you bugnuts; I ask my conservative acquaintances who hate gays why the constitution has to be amended to prohibit them from getting married. BECAUSE THE BAN AIN'T IN THERE NOW, YOU CONSTITUTION HATING BASTARDS.

I had to look up pedantic. I'm that way too and didn't even know it. My young Sailors hated it when I was that way. I recall along time ago two of my first classes were arguing about something (I don't recall what it was) but I let them go for awhile then ended the argument with one question; what's the fucking book say? Worked everytime.

[monktonman]

11. got my fingers crossed...

really I'm hoping all these states pass all these crazy laws and the SCOTUS approves every one of them. people in my state have been talking about dumping america and becoming part of canada for a while now and hopefully vermonters will finally see how fucked up the rest of the country is and abondon ship.

[BOSSHOG]

14. I think there would be incredible national value if this measure

was passed. Maybe there would be some much needed discussion about constitutional liberties.

AND WELCOME TO DU! I look forward to reading your New England two cents worth.

[progressivebydesign]

12. Folks.. we are SO fucked.

The country is resembling something even more backward than the 50's. The religiously insane are taking over the country.

[BoneDaddy]

13. Un-fucking believable

Where are we living again? The freaking Christian Reich

[Coastie for Truth]

16. Come to the Bluest Blue State

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[Virginia Dare]

17. W----T----F!!!!!!!!!! This country is on a slippery slope. EOM

[izzie]

18. John Winthrop New Age is with us yet. On to the city on the Hill

It just made about 300 of my ancestors sit up and clap. Those dear old Puritans.

[SaveElmer]

19. As the Republicans dig their grave ever deeper...

It's stuff like this, combined with Schiavo, eminent domain, and the march toward anti-abortion laws that is gonna kill the Republicans...particularly in the west.

20. I think this whole rise of Christianity in political realm

must be because before they just assumed they would always get their way, and basically always had things their way. However things changed in the 60s and 70s and now they have really banded together to take make sure power is back in their hands.

It is a white power thing.

However the big male-God religions are dwindling as more people look to "spiritual values" instead of old-time religious values, so I think the writing is on the wall, and Christianity may have a resurgence of political power, but it is going to die out, because of changing times and diversity.

[MadHound]

21. Don't worry, this piece of legislation won't see the light of day

We have our fair share of whacked out politicians here in Missouri, and once in awhile they throw some piece of BS like this into play. It will get stuck in committee and then be quietly dropped at the end of the session. We may be a red state currently(though that will change shortly), but we're not completely stupid or crazy.

Right now, no further hearings on this are scheduled, and I doubt that anymore will be, especially now that this has been brought to light. Sater was trying to fly this one in under the the media, but now that they're onto it, no further hearings will be scheduled, and it will die a quiet death in committee at the end of the year.

If you want to check it out for yourself, or keep track of the progress of this bill, here is a good link: <http://www.house.mo.gov/bills061/bills/HCR13.htm>

[hatrack]

22. But at least they kept their powder dry!

:eyes:

[Zynx]

23. Wow! That is the closest thing to theocratic legislation I have ever seen

in this country. Congratulations Missouri! You are officially in a state dominated by fucktards.

[FearofFutility]

24. Did you hear about the Catholic town in Florida?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/03/earlyshow/main1366799.shtml

[VaYallaDawg]

25. This is just about the nuttiest craziness yet!

I hope the RW nutjobs out in the hollers of VA (for some reason Prince William County comes immediately to mind) don't find out about this. Next thing you know they'll be trying to resurrect the Church of England as the state church here.

[McKenzie]

27. e-mail them this link

and gently point out that if the legislators want to be true to the beliefs of the Founding Fathers they had better disabuse themselves of the notion that the US was intended to be a Christian nation.

http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html

[julialnyc]

29. By proclamation of Governor George W. Bush, 10 June 2000 was 'Jesus Day in

http://www.snopes.com/religion/jesusday.htm
By proclamation of Governor George W. Bush, 10 June 2000 was 'Jesus Day in Texas

[More Than A Feeling]

32. Time for a new Reformation.

Statist Christianity is the religion of Pharisees and idolators.

[catmandu57]

33. The devil has us by the short and curlies here

and the reptiles are kicking us in the gonads. Along with this piece of brilliance they want to pass an abortion bill similar to south dakota. They've got nine months to fuck with us, then it's katy bar the door these bastards are gone.