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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 05:46 AM
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National Guard Spying Nationwide?
Is this the offer?

Spy on your fellow Americans or it's off to the Russian fro... oh, sorry ... the Iraqi Freedom front!

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Senator ties Guard to spy plan
MEMOS SUGGEST NATIONWIDE EFFORT
By Edwin Garcia
Mercury News Sacramento Bureau

SACRAMENTO - A special California National Guard unit that was disbanded last year amid suspicion it was engaged in domestic spying may have been part of a nationwide effort to monitor the activities of U.S. citizens, a state senator charged Tuesday.

Internal National Guard documents seem to suggest, according to Sen. Joe Dunn, D-Garden Grove, that Guard units in nine other states may have had similar spying initiatives when California's unit became public last summer.

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I count 3 non-denial denials.

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 06:20 AM
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1. The KGB's got a hold on me?
Can you say Seig Heil?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 07:26 AM
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2. Look at the "terrorist threats" they were spying on - Grannies for Peace
The unit formed in California, first reported by the Mercury News in June, had been given ``broad authority'' to monitor, analyze and distribute data on potential terrorist threats. Top Guard officials, the Mercury News learned then, were involved in tracking a Mother's Day anti-war rally organized by families of slain U.S. soldiers.

Rally participants -- including Gold Star Families for Peace, Raging Grannies and CodePink -- were outraged when they learned a newly formed Guard unit monitored the group. So was Dunn, who was chair of a budget committee that oversaw the Guard and launched investigations into the alleged domestic spying.
A spokesman for the Colorado National Guard, which Dunn identified as one of the states with a spying unit, called the senator's allegation off-base. ``Nobody in the Guard wants to do something that is illegal,'' said Capt. Robert Bell.

The 1878 Posse Comitatus Act bars the U.S. military from domestic law enforcement unless responding to specific circumstances. But no such law exists for Guard troops in California.
Dunn and Sen. Jackie Speier, D-San Mateo, introduced legislation last week that would bar Guard members from engaging in domestic spying unless authorized by law.

``We have to close the loopholes so that our military personnel do not engage in unauthorized police activity domestically, including spying,'' Dunn said at a news conference Tuesday afternoon, during which time he also disclosed the information contained in the Guard documents he obtained through a subpoena last year.

The documents include a two-page memorandum from the National Guard Bureau, which coordinates Guard activities across the country. Dunn said the memo -- with the subject line ``Existing `Fusion Center' concepts in the States and Territories'' -- acknowledged the presence of such centers in California, Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Minnesota, Missouri, New York, Pennsylvania, Washington and West Virginia.

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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 08:20 AM
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3. Yes, it's just "fusion"
Go back to bed America.

It just a "Fusion Center Concept."

Oh, ok.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 08:41 AM
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5. This is precisely the reason for the posse comitatus and FISA laws
Edited on Sat Mar-04-06 09:01 AM by leveymg
Do they think they can just ignore the law? The future they are making is lawless chaos and destruction. They swore an oath to protect the Constitution -- if the Justice Department can't or won't enforce the law, the military should arrest BushCo and bind them over for trial.

Look. we know the NSA is bugging EVERYONE, so hand over the White House tapes to Fitz, if you haven't already done so.

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 08:32 AM
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4. Just another similarity between Bu$h's AmeriKa and Hitler's Germany
When do they start rounding people up?
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