TO anybody who thinks that 'titty twisting' is A-OK with them, read this:

[Lindacooks]

From the Torture Archives of the Progressive Review:

http://prorev.com/torture3.htm

By the time of the GOP convention in Philadelphia, the government had dispensed with even the pretension of constitutional procedure. At the peak of the demonstrations, organizers reported:

"One officer dragging a man in the nude, grabbing a protester's penis, stepping on necks, jumping on a man's back, and slamming a face into a cell door."

An officer who told a prisoner, "I'll fuck you up the ass and make you my bitch," slamming a man against wall repeatedly, punching a prisoner in the stomach, holding a prisoner's face in the trash with his knee in the prisoner's neck, throwing a prisoner against the wall."

4 cases of denial of access to medication: 1 person with HIV denied for 2 days, received on third day. 1 person with migraine, vomiting, denied all medicine. 1 hypoglycemic person denied access to adequate food. 4 counts of sexual abuse: dragging a man naked, wrenching a man's penis, twisting a person's nipples, man subjected to random search of genitals. 2 threats of rape from commanding officers.

It's defined as SEXUAL ABUSE. If you think it's okay for kids to do that to each other, you must think it's then okay for the police to do it to protestors. And you're okay with torture.

Shame on each and every one of you who defends this sexual abuse.

[ikojo]

1. I don't agree with the notion that it's only kids

being kids when they do "titty twists" on one another.

Remember that the pug convention in Philadelphia too place while Clinton was president.

[Catherine Vincent]

2. Who here thinks that is okay?

That would hurt.

[ikojo]

4. I don't know, but the OP must feel that some think

titty twisting is not sexual abuse. That's the only thing I can figure out from the post.

[Kire]

10. It must be a reference to this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=571424&mesg_id=571424

[NuttyFluffers]

22. oh thank god. i was getting really confused for a bit.

i was wondering what brought this on, and were we going to be talking about nipple clamps next. i was about to say, "but sometimes people like to have their titties twisted -- that's why there's safe words and roleplay." context people, context! otherwise we're all flying blind.

[Warpy]

3. I know the only time I've ever seen that sort of abuse

is when a patient was in deep coma and a physician was trying to assess if there was any response at all to deep pain. There wasn't.

Anybody who does that to a conscious human being is sick, sick, sick. I would hope the school, the cops, and the kid's parents would all catch a clue about this one.

[Blue-Jay]

5. What about the "regular twist". Is that OK?

[Kire]

7. The Mashed Potato is great, too.

[Swamp Rat]

6. I love titty twisting

Shame on me. :spank:

[Pachamama]

26. Tongue-tied ole Swamp Rat?

:spank:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

8. Purple Nurples LOL

I never did them to anyone, but when I was a kid my obnoxious friend would get ya once in a while. Very annoying. Never in a billion years woulda called it being sexually abused though. It was just kids doing what they do, though that can sometimes be annoying and socially unacceptable. I wouldn't inflict that pain on anyone even when I was a kid, but I also wouldn't come close to calling it sexual abuse in that context. And though purple nurples hurt a bit, lord knows there are far more cruel things than that kids to each other.

[QC]

9. I object to the use of the word "titty."

Such coarse language has no place among ladies and gentlemen of learning and culture. What would Mrs. Grundy say?

In the future, please refer to said body parts as bosoms, voluptuous mounds, or mammarial protuberances.

[name not needed]

12. tit tit tit tit tit

[NuttyFluffers]

23. may we substitute with bodacious tah-tahs as well?

or not in mixed company?

[name not needed]

11. Oh, don't get your tits in a knot over this.

[RDU Socialist]

13. i think it's breast... best not to twist what people are saying

we're saying it's not a big deal, your over the top crying about this however should be embarassing.

[Kire]

14. It's battery.

"intentionally caused harmful or offensive contact with another person"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(tort)

[Cleita]

15. I always found out that a good knee cap to the perpetrator

ended that sort of behavior.

[bluestateguy]

16. I thought you were referring to strip club etiquette

But no, I think that when cops act this way the person being attacked should have the right to fight back against the cops. I guess Frank Rizzo still lives in Philly.

[Extend a Hand]

17. It seems like bullying to me

I don't know why people are so excited over that punishment. Geez community service and letter? that doesn't seem at all out of proportion to me. He got 4 days for failing to obey a court order not 'titty twisting'.

[bloom]

28. That's what I think

"The Crater High School student paid a $67 fine and served three days of community service.

"I emptied trash cans, mowed lawns and shoveled gravel," Thumler said."


Why shouldn't bullies suffer any consequences? I'm not getting the reasoning there.

[undergroundpanther]

18. Shame on the enablers of bullies

who CHOOSE to hurt people for self "entertainment".
Bullies choose violence Bullies create victims.

Bullies ARE a problem,that should not be excused,rationalized, tolerated or stood by and denied.
Enough of this blaming the victim for being hurt because a bully was bored.
Time to blame the cause, the bully himself.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

19. Depends on the context

Obviously, if done with malice, the person can (and probably should) file charges. However, if it's two friends fucking around then I see no harm in it.

[upi402]

20. titty twisting is an extra charge

:dilemma:

[TorchTheWitch]

24. and a heavy duty one at that

gotta break out several creditcards to afford a titty twist. ;)

[dorkulon]

21. HAHAHAHA

Are you fucking joking? I kind of think it's more the "Fuck you up the ass and make you my bitch" and penis-wrenching stuff that gets these officers into trouble. I can't believe you're even serious about this!

:rofl:

[LWolf]

27. The OP is referring to this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x571424

And yes, is serious.

[rucky]

25. I think the discussion was whether the punishment fit the crime.

When it's two kids playing rough in the hallway, it's not sexual abuse. There's no sexual intent, and the perp is a little kid, fer chrissakes.

I think the kid would've gotten the message with a stern lecture, apology to the victim, and a week's detention.

[BlackVelvet04]

29. Oh good grief,

"If you think it's okay for kids to do that to each other, you must think it's then okay for the police to do it to protestors. And you're okay with torture."

That sounds rather like "if you don't support the war you love terrorists and hate America."

How did you make that leap and come to that conclusion?

[BoneDaddy]

30. titty twisting is for wimps

Christ! big deal. The daily torture at my middle school growing up was that boys would punch other boys in the nuts as they walked by. Suck it up!!!
(sarcasm off)

[LeftCoast]

31. Locking

Continuing a flamewar.