The interview with Gen Pace with Timmy Russert is making me crazy.

[Ilsa]

First came the bullshit about how much better the people are in Iraq without saddam -- girls are going to school, etc, and no one ever calls these propagandists on this.

And then he says US civilians aren't seeing how great things are over there. It really isn't as bad as we think it is. Hey Gen., I guess that depends on whether you had a family member blown the F#*k up, huh?

[dysfunctional press]

1. why even bother with meet the fascists?

that and faux news sundays i don't even consider watching, no matter who's on either- if i want to watch sunday morning political shows, i'll take judas snoffloffagus's show on abc or the crypt-keeper on cbs.

[DainBramaged]

2. Press the Meat has a Liberal/Democrat on?

Oops, my bad, confused the program with a show that makes a point. Murtha on CBS. Much better viewing.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

3. William Buckley writes that we have lost the war, said Tim.

Pace said that Buckley should walk the streets of Iraq and talk to the people. Tim said, do you really think Buckley should walk the streets of Iraq? Pace even had to admit that this wasn't a good idea. I agree. I think bush should walk the streets of Iraq instead.

[mtnsnake]

4. Pace sounded like a 4-Star liar, a 6-Star spinner, & an 8-Star politician

stars not necessarily in that order.

[Coexist]

5. Murtha just did everything but call Pace a liar on Face the Nation

woo hoo!

[C_U_L8R]

6. Happy Face Fascism

He sounds like the Mr Rogers of the Jackboot set

[Glimmer of Hope]

8. Omg - That is perfect. He is creeeepy.

[Submariner]

7. Keep in mind that 5 deferment Cheney, Rummy the Dummy, and

the Chimp PURGED the military of Generals that stated that many more troops would be needed to invade and secure Iraq.

The military leaders of the last five years are nothing but YES men wanting to hold onto their stars..PERIOD. They are not to be taken seriously at all.

[Puglover]

9. "Meet the Pig"

As I heard someone say the other day.....if 50 car bombs were being detonated in Manhattan daily and daily 500 people were going missing or murdered I highly doubt they would be reporting on the nice little school that got painted in Queens.

Fucking idiot.

:eyes:

[Mikimouse]

10. Just a slight problem with this...

"girls are going to school" statement. Dear General Pace, While it is admirable that you can spew bullshit without winking or nudging Timmy Russert, your statement is pure BS. "Girls", as you so quaintly put it, were going to school in Iraq long before now, and, in fact, long before other middle eatern nations allowed it. Iraq was the most progressive and seculer of the middle eastern nations. Please get your facts from other sources than Rush Limbaugh and Fauz news. That is all.

[Ilsa]

11. Exactly. If he had bothered to go there or at least read something

about Iraq he would have known this. It is pure bs propaganda attempting to challenge feminist anti-war liberals.

[Mikimouse]

14. I agree wholeheartedly, but that would have been...

Hard Work! and I also agre with your assessment of the propaganda being aimed at feminist anti-war liberals. The people who don't read, pay attention, or are otherwise intellectually lazy, will immediately buy into the propaganda. You can count me as a feminist anti-war liberal (even though I am a guy!)

[A Simple Game]

12. "Iraq was the most progressive and secular"

Perhaps that was part of the problem?

Well, that and our oil companies oil under their sand.

[Mikimouse]

15. I think that anotehr problem for the US was...

that even though Hussein was an iron-fisted dictator, he could still walk among his people with relative impunity (as pany pictures have demonstrated). The administration KNEW what would happen without Hussein, and embraced it, knowing full well that civil war would be the result. I firmly believe that this was the master plan. If you think about it, what better excuse for staying in Iraq permanently? "Clearly, the Iraqi people cannot handle the situation, so we will have to stay to make sure that democracy thrives!"

[Marie26]

13. Exactly

He's mixing up secular dictatorships like Iraq w/fundamentalist regimes like Saudi Arabia. And then they get so outraged & upset that the public mixes up the UAE w/Saudi Arabia. They're completely hypoctritical - they'll smear one Middle East country w/the actions of another when it suits them.

[Mikimouse]

16. And the reason they get away with it is because...

most people are too lazy to actaually get the real facts for themselves. I am a university educator and I am constantly in a state of amazement at some of the things that my students say. Straight out of the Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage talking points. They are shocked when I send them to a real, factual source of information, and they discover that they have it completely backwards.