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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:29 AM
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Who will the Neocons want to to put in office in 2008?
I can't see them having much truck with McCain. Ideally maybe Rice, but that's not gonna happen. I'm not certain about Guiliani. I understand that he clashes with many of them.

Who would be their ideal pick? Perhaps someone stupid like bush who can be manipulated, but maybe a little smarter this time around since bush started taking himself seriously and screwed up a lot of what they had envisioned.

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gekeeley Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:32 AM
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1. Hmm...
I was just watching old videos of the RNC, and it looks like George Pataki would be a viable candidate, he seemed to mirror the Bush image and message. Eerie.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:37 AM
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3. he would be a good choice
they need someone who is intelligent and pliable and george fits the bill
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:01 PM
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37. Isn't he pro-choice?
That's a non-starter in the Republican primaries.

I think McCain has it pretty much clinched if his health holds up.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:35 AM
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2. -want- to put in office
you mean who will they -place- in office...it will be someone who has a bit more intelligence than bush. they burned themselves because they underestimated bush`s stupidity, they will not make that mistake again.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:40 AM
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4. They want an affable front man to make speeches and
raise money. They want a guy who knows he's in over his head and will look to his advisors and largely let them do whatever they want.

They want another Reagan, in other words. They've been grooming Musclehead, but there's that little constitutional question. They like Allen, but he's got a little too much upstairs. There's Jebbie, but he's tarnished by his last name. They don't want McCain, he'll try to run things and may slow the bribery down to where it's acceptable by the unwashed.

What to do, what to do....
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:47 AM
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5. Musclehead? Sorry, I'm a little dense this morning...
Jebbie has his own agenda, he wouldn't be their choice. Don't know much about Allen but the name does keep coming up.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:11 PM
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15. Schwartzenegger
You know, the guy who is making them look so bad in California that whole counties are turning Democrat.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:03 PM
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6. They need a really dumb guy, who's easily manipulated...
...hmmm...

Laura Bush?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:03 PM
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7. Tough call. Obvious choices are too independent for them.
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 12:03 PM by no_hypocrisy
* is perfect as he just does and says what he's told, and doesn't ask why to boot.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:10 PM
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14. Even better- he does what he's told, and thinks it's his idea.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:03 PM
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8. I think the neocons have lost whatever
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 12:12 PM by LibDemAlways
credibility they may have had. They'll want to install another doofus they can control from behind the scenes -like George Allen - but I think McCain will come on strong in the primaries and ultimately the choice will be out of their hands.

By the way reporters are digging into the unsavory background of my old hs classmate - George Allen. I received an e-mail from one out of the blue the other day trolling for dirt.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:08 PM
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11. That's the thing about Mister Frist - the dirt is out there
He admits to being a cat vivisectionist.

He is a brazillionaire on HMO, drug company, and health insurance stocks.

And his an arrogant SOB.

(My mom is a 94 year old, feisty, curmudgeony, retired surgical nurse -- and you ought to hear her go on and on and on about Frist.)
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:17 PM
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20. Plenty of dirt out there on Allen, too.
He has a history of racism going back to his high school days when he was responsible for spraypainting racist graffiti on the school walls. Later on as a lawyer he displayed a noose in his office. His sister has also admitted that he used her as a punching bag. He's a real piece of work.
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:17 PM
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21. I hope the reporters
get the dirt out before Allen campaigns. I think an Allen/Rice ticket would negate all the racist stuff in his past. The thought scares me.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:19 PM
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23. Didja tell 'em he's a dumb as a box of rocks and has even
less personality?

I don't know him, personally, as you do, but he comes across that way to me on the Tee Vee.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:32 PM
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30. Not the sharpest tool in the shed. Mediocre
student. His dad was coach of the NFL LA Rams at the time, and he enjoyed the reflected glory. I think most classmates would tell you he was an arrogant prick.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:22 PM
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24. Wow, interesting, LibDem...
Did you have any dirt to give them? Too bad you're not a repub; you could just make something up and swear to it.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:28 PM
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28. Plenty.
Gave the reporter a full and complete account of the "graffiti" incident (as its called by the Palos Verdes HS Class of 1970) - detailing the time Allen spraypainted racist graffiti on the school walls. He was caught and had to publically apologize.

He was probably the only kid in Southern CA who proudly sported Confederate flag stickers on his car.

When it comes to the dirt on Allen, you don't have to make it up.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:04 PM
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9. Mister Bill Frist
(I don't call him "doctor")

Besides, he'll stand up for the drug companies, mega insurance companies, and mega HMO's and protect us from the Trial lawyers and Hillary.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:05 PM
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10. The neo-cons would take Rumsfeld or Cheney. The Bushes would
take Rice or Frist.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:09 PM
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12. Anyone they can.
There are quite a few shoes waiting to drop between here and there.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:18 PM
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22. Who ever they can find
that's not under indictment.

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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:09 PM
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13. For some reason, I get the feeling they want
Hillary. :shrug:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:13 PM
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17. Technically, she is a neo-con.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:14 PM
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18. Oops- double post
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 12:15 PM by Marr
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:12 PM
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16. Tom DeLay (R) 2008! "Why settle for the lesser of two evils?"
:)
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:15 PM
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19. The neocons would run W again.
If they have the clout, they'll get rid of the 22nd Ammendment and allow Captain Incompetent to steal another term.

Failing that, I have no idea who they'd choose. Someone who's easily manipulated. Probably a relative unknown.
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:22 PM
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26. No they wont. Bill Clinton would clean his clock with 99% of the vote !
:rofl:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:22 PM
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25. According to the Weekly World News, the GOP plans
According to the Weekly World News, the GOP plans to revivify Reagan. I know a lot of people don't consider them a relaible source, but they did break the Cheney is a robot story.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:24 PM
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27. With these aliens always a good idea to check the hot sheets! LOL
Funny, I was thinking along the lines of them resurecting Hitler.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 01:00 PM
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33. Loved the line in Men In Black..."Weekly World News is the only
authentic reliable news source"...:rofl:
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left of center Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:30 PM
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29. Have been hearing that George Allen is a popular choice
right now. He comes across to me as not being particularly bright, but that didn't hurt George Bush. It seemed to make many people think he was an everyday person like them. What I don't like about Allen is that he is more right wing than the President. That is the last thing we need!

He hails from my part of Virginia. He was elected to the state legislature, but lost his seat after redistricting. He went on to run for governer. I voted for the dumbass because it was my first time voting since turning eighteen. I didn't know anything at the time- thought I was Republican like most people in my community.

To give you an idea of what he is like, he dresses like a cowboy sometimes wearing snakeskin boots and one of those big rimmed hats! He was actually okay as governor, but his successor and buddy James Gilmore was a complete train wreck that ushered Democrat Mark Warner and now Tim Kaine. Allen has since grown into a partisan hack who embraces the worst elements in his party.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:34 PM
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31. I went to high school with him in
Southern California. That's as "southern" as he is - complete phony. See my post #28 above for more info.
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left of center Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 01:38 PM
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34. Just read post #28 and that sounds like something he would
have done in his youth. Allen is a redneck at heart, and I don't mean the down-to-earth good ol boy type. I sure hope such tid bits get paraded around during the nomination process.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:59 PM
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32. Lets all hope its someone with BRAINS and touched with Benevolency
Lets hope he/she thinks and works for ALL AMERICANs and the Planet to boot.

Lets all hope the selfishness is minimized
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:07 PM
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35. All I know is that someone who anti-choice will never get the nod
The fundies would lose it if a pro-choice candidate comes out of the convention. They will either look for a third party candidate or stay home. It would be a real coup for the dems. I don't think you will see many reagan dems looking to the republican party if whoever comes out of the convention doesn't take on the failure of the Bushies. If a moderate comes out saying the Bushies lead this country down the right path, it is all over for the repukes.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:07 PM
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36. NeoCondoleeza! n/t
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:05 PM
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38. Jeb?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:07 PM
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39. I think they're going to push Alan.
He's a RW nut, but does come across as a nice guy, and he looks good on TV.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:09 PM
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40. I say itll be another trickle down, dumbed down, propagandist.
Id bet my life on it.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:40 PM
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41. Satan himself
I mean, it's not a big step up (or down) from Bush or Cheney :shrug:
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