Republicans aren't religious

[DanCa]

Can people please stop perpetuating the myth that the Repukes are religious and the Democrats aren't.I am sick and tired of people falling into this trap so let me put an end to this here and now.

1: Is it christian to let people starve and freeze to death in the streets?
2: Is it christian to let victims of hurricane katrina continue to suffer?
3: Is it christian to force rape victims to carry their attackers baby to term?
4: Is it christian to invade an unarmed country?
5: Is it christian for VP CHeney lie about meeting Senator Edwards at a prayer breakfast?
6: Is it christian to shoot a 78 year old man in the face?
7: Is it christian to put "innocent" people to death on death row?
8: Is it christian to keep me crippled and thousands of others inflicted with disease when stem cell research can be a cure all?
9: Is it Christian for so many people to be without health care?
10: Is it Christian to treat gay people badly?
11: Is it Christian to push for embryo adoption when kids are growing up in orphanages?
12: Is it Christian to remove people from a church for voting Democrat?

These are just a few small ways in which the Repukes aren't religious. Please feel free to add your own list. Remember it The GOP, Not GOD party. I mean if one more person thinks the christian right are the right christian I might smack 'em upside the head with my walker. :D Have a happy day everyone, thanks for letting me vent, I feel so much better now. :D

[BlueEyedSon]

1. The Republican neofascists are using religious folk by making a big deal

of specific moral issues like homosexuality an abortion right at election time. Perfect for people who can hold exactly one idea in their heads at a time....

[NanceGreggs]

2. Great List, Great Rant!

And if I may:

Is it Christian to detain foreign nationals without charge or trial?
Is it Christian to TORTURE ANYONE?
Is it Christian to gut programs aimed at helping the poor, while giving tax breaks and subsidies to the wealthy, or to corporations that already enjoy record-breaking profits?

You're right - there is NOTHING Christian about any of these things.
I just wish a few more REAL Christians out there would stand up and say so, LOUDLY and OFTEN!!!

[Initech]

3. Republicans are religious. Their religion - secular consumerism.

Their god - the almighty dollar.

And isnt Greed one of the 7 deadly sins?

[baldguy]

5. The name of their god is Mammon.

[Initech]

11. I always assumed the name of their god was $$$$$$$$$

[Deja Q]

4. Glib.

Republicans - the ones I know anyway, but they're not keen on what's happening either, want people to be able to work and be productive.

Responding to your points:

1. No. But that's in the purview of the corporations who move jobs overseas. They aren't teaching anyone to fish. They're giving some people loaded poles and the rest, a hook through the heart.

2. No. But that's the problem of the people who run the state and country. This one is a bi-partisan fuck-up; there's plenty of blame to go around.

3. Out of every evil comes a greater good, that's all I've got to say. Though it's technically none of my business as to what people do with themselves either. Maybe if we all had consideration for life, this issue (and others) would be a non-issue.

4. Obviously not.

5. Is it okay to lie? The Bible says "no".

6. Deliberately? Or accidentally?

7. Who's innocent this time? Tookie's #2 henchman, Bookie?!

8. Not when an unborn might die. Fortunately, the last I heard, they are finding ways to make stem cells without killing a potential life. A life that could be a next generation scientist. Or maybe the next Hitler, but nobody's perfect... Don't forget, "pro-life" means womb to the tomb, no matter how often meatballbrain Limbaugh wants to write amusing songs with that phrase in it.)

9. No. Anyone looking at the entire situation would see how everybody is tap-dancing around the actual problems afoot. (Never mind we never used to have health care, but this issue is anything BUT simplistic or fault of a single entity... and I could make an entire post on this one alone.)

10. Depends on which chapter of the Bible we're speaking, and which testament. Or the others that contradict the first ones and the other way 'round. Don't forget, cherry-picking favored verses is fun.

11. No. The post-born should have more rights than the unborn; the unborn's only right is to survive when possible and as long as its life doesn't put the mother's in jeopardy.

12. No. But then, those sycophants shouldn't even be a legit ministry.

But, yeah, our corporate leaders and our government leaders who assist them are not Christian. They may be lackeys to the old-testament, but they are not Christian. And the gobbledygook about "Judeo-Christian" is the biggest fiction of all time.


Edit: Some clarifications.

[DanCa]

8. Number Seven:

Just so you know that I meant that the republicans are so happy to throw the switch when all the facts aren't evident. Personally, and this is just my personel view point I feel that their are times when the death penality is warranted. But only when the line is clear and when were guided by facts and evidence not knee jerk emotions. Thats just my opinion you of course have the right to disagree with me.

[TahitiNut]

6. People can be 'religious' without being faithful.

After all, personal integrity means being faithful ... and that makes it too hard to be a hypocrite.
I think it's called being "pharasaical ."

[DanCa]

9. True Dat

Some of the greatest, kindness, most ethical people I know aren't religous or dont believe in God period. Being religious also doesn't equate to being nice either. :D

[SammyWinstonJack]

7. I'm sick of religion period! It causes a lot of pain, suffering and death

imo. I think the World could do without it.

[Rocknrule]

10. So? They hate gays and that's all that matters

:sarcasm:

[ChristianLibrul]

12. religious

Sure they are. And so are mob bosses. They give to their churches, sometimes even attend. Even Don Fanucci in GODFATHER II hung money on the holiday tree before Vito shot him. All of which proves criminals can be religious if they give money--not theirs, of course; ours--to people like Pat Robertson's "Operation Blessing."

[northofdenali]

13. May I use this (with attribution, of course)

on the next fundy neocon who sends me an email? Please? Really, really good rant.

[Olney Blue]

14. Good points- Kicked.

:kick

[Gregorian]

15. Christ was a Democrat. Pontius Pilot was a Republican.

Actually I have to give Pontius a break. It was the people who insisted Christ be crucified. Just like the people who claim to be Christians who are ignoring the fact that we are killing Iraqis in their name. They don't care enough to learn the truth.

They go to church. They just look religious. Looks can be deceiving.

Christ would love DU. Christ would condemn FreeRepublic.

As a Christian, I consider most religious people to be phoney. The church going and all of the rest of it. Most of what people call religion, is bullshit. Real religion is a vapor. But one that affects all actions. Republicans are just words. Words whose definition changes to suit the occasion.

I love your post. I can't do it justice. Besides, I'm listening to an absolutely awsome Queen tribute on a great radio station. Yay for Queen. In fact, being a Christian doesn't rule out rock n roll. That's another thing I hate- Christian rock. Phoney!

OK, I'll shut up.

[Marr]

16. Sure they're religious. Just like bin Ladin is religious.

Neither one seems to give much of a shit about the actual wisdom that can be found in their chosen tomes, of course- but still.

Both "religious" groups are composed of radical fundamentalists and opportunists who coop a given a faith to sell their political agenda.

[leftofthedial]

17. republicans are fascists

they used to hide from it by pretending to be innocent "victims" of a rogue leadership

but given the behavior of the house repukes, the senate repukes and king george and his fascist criminal gang, anyone who still calls themselves a "Republican" is a fucking criminal piece of shit.

[threadkillaz]

18. Matthew 5:9

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.

[C_U_L8R]

19. sanctimonious fat-heads

the repukes are faux christians.. in every respect

they will make nice fuel for hellfire.

[Kung Fu Bovine]

20. How To Be A Good Republican

1. You have to believe in the First Amendment, but want to ban pornography.

2. You have to believe that moving US jobs overseas is good, but foreigners coming here to work is bad.

3. You have to believe taking a pill that makes your uterus lining thinner is murder...whether or not fertilization happened.

4. You have to decry "big government", but sing the praises of the war on drugs, corporate welfare, and government standardized tests in colleges.

5. You have to go to church every Sunday and yell "Amen" and "Hallelujah" when you hear messages about pacifism and charity, then go home and yell "Hooray" when you see a dead Arab and "Communist" when one penny of your check goes to help the needy.

6. You have to believe that lawyers are bad unless they're writing books about the Clintons.

7. You have to believe that lawyers in Congress are bad, but oil tycoons in the White House are good.

8. You have to believe that people that went to Vietnam and were injured are traitors, but a man that didn't bother going due to "other priorities" is a hero.

9. You have to feel the need to scream "sanctity of marriage" at homosexuals, but feel the need to scream nothing at those that are divorced, annulled, or legally seperated.

10. You have to believe that Fred Phelps is a ranting, raving, senile lunatic...unless he votes for Al Gore. Then he's thinking clearly.

11. You have to believe that scratching your ass in a tree or in a boat for 8 hours drinking beer and shooting dumb animals is a "sport".

12. You have to believe that the US hasn't been in any armed conflicts since World War 2.

13. You have to believe that guns, cigarettes, and alcohol are okay, but marijuana is bad.

14. You have to hate Osama bin Laden, but look the other way when the President gives his family White House receptions.

15. You have to believe that showing concern about man's impact on the Earth makes you a lunatic or a terrorist.

16. You have to believe that dumping a trillion gallons of radioactive waste into the ocean is okay as long as the act has a nice name like "The Blue Water Act".

17. You have to believe that democracy is the answer to Sunnis and Shiites killing each other.

18. You have to believe that the world-renowned neurologist Jeb Bush can correctly diagnose a Persistent Vegetative State.

19. You have to support the troops...except when they want body armor.

20. You have to believe that Damn Yankees were a good band and might get back together after Ted's self-inflicted chainsaw wound heals.

21. You have to get a little misty-eyed whenever you hear "Born in the USA", "America, We Stand As One", or anything by Toby Keith.

22. You have to believe that it was a zit on Rush Limbaugh's ass that kept him out of Vietnam, and that he feels bad about it.

23. You have to hate Bill Clinton, but believe that everything that he did is an acceptable precedent for Bush's actions.

24. You have to believe in free trade...unless it is with Cuba. Or unless it's senior citizens trading US dollars for Canadian medicine.

25. You have to believe that $60 million of taxpayer money is best spent building a bridge to an island in Alaska populated by 50 people, many of whom are in your family.

26. You have to believe that pictures of slums in Cuba prove that communism doesn't work, but pictures of slums in America don't prove a damn thing.

27. You have to believe that a $100 billion inheritance shouldn't be taxed, but people living below the poverty level should.

28. You have to believe that people should pay for their own health care, but they'd better not try to use their own money to buy drugs in Canada.

29. You have to believe that it's stupid to sue tobacco companies, but think that "Death With Dignity" is a crock.

30. You have to believe that anything done during wartime is justified, so when someone writes a book about bona fide war criminals, he is a traitor.

31. You have to believe that in the hazardous surburban warzone that is your neighborhood, you have a need for an assault weapon that shoots 10,000 rounds a minute.

32. You have to believe that people's living wills should be respected and carried out...unless they ask not to be kept alive while clinically brain dead.

33. You have to believe that your children aren't smart enough to ward off the barrage of nonstop communist messages being tossed at them by their teachers and the televsion.

34. You have to believe that kids won't have sex if they don't have condoms.

35. You have to whine that US schools are outshined by other countries because of socialist and communist teachers in our classrooms, but ignore the fact that the schools outshining ours lie in socialist and communist countries.

36. You have to believe that race is responsible for gun violence, but that liberals are to blame for your kid sucking at math.

37. You have to believe that going to Vietnam was a good idea, that the world is a better place because of it, and that it's okay that 80% of our nation's homeless are Nam vets.

[newyawker99]

30. Hi Kung Fu Bovine!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[ThatsMyBarack]

35. Hello, KFB!

Welcome to here, and thanks for sharing that whole list! :hi:

[proud patriot]

21. I'm convinced it's a CULT

:crazy:

[Skittles]

22. oh I think they are very religious

religon to me is all about hypocrisy

[redphish]

23. Of course they're not religious.

They just know that if they pander to the most extreme fundi churches for issues like abortion, gay marriage, and "family values", what ever the hell that means, that the churches will instruct their members will vote for them like the brainwashed drones that they are. They will ignore the real issues entirely.

:banghead:

[jbm]

24. I always say they are religious...

they're just not spiritual. All it takes to be religious is a belief in dogma. Spirituality demands a true desire to do the right thing regardless of the sacrifice. Spirituality is just and loving and really does come from the heart. Religion is just an ego trip.

[DanCa]

25. Question about Sean Hannity

I don't watch this hermaphrodite, his very name makes my skin crawl. But does this sucker consider himself a christian? I mean he exploited a woman, a woman, on her death bed. Not only that but he disrupted the dying people around her for ratings. I hope there's a special place in hell for that sack of slime.

[DetroitProle]

26. yeah, apparently

http://www.nndb.com/people/432/000022366/

[cassiepriam]

27. They have indeed lost their way. Very bad karma for them.

[GeorgeGist]

28. what's religion got to do with it?

29. is it Christian to ask your congregants for money

so you can use to gain political power.

[Joe Chi Minh]

31. If you Democrats must call the Repug party, the GOP,

you should refer to yourselves as the GNP - to double as Grand New Party and Gross National Product. There's a kind of symmetry to it, too. When latter come true again, you go, Ha Ha Ha!

[EVDebs]

32. Misinterpretations of scripture, leading to end time delusions...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=215343

They've become so heavenly minded they're no earthly good, as my old Bible college New Testament instructor once said of certain types he'd come across.

Oh, BTW, here is another article on the Third Temple wackos leading the lemmings into the Bush foreign policy fiascos

Impact of the millenium
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week319/cover.html

which is also mentioned briefly in Chris Hedges piece at

Harpers called Soldiers of Christ II
http://www.harpers.org/FeelingTheHate.html

""Early Sunday morning, in a ballroom on the second floor of the Hilton Hotel, the Israeli Ministry of Tourism is hosting a breakfast. Several hundred people, all dressed in the appropriate skirts and business suits of American churchgoing people, are seated at round tables with baskets of bread, fruit plates, and silver pitchers of coffee. Waiters serve plates of scrambled eggs and creamed spinach. I count no more than half a dozen people who are not white. On the platform is a huge picture of the Dome of the Rock, the spot in Jerusalem where the third Temple will be rebuilt to herald, at least according to the Christians in the room, the second coming of Christ. Some 400,000 Christian tourists visit Israel each year, and, what with the precipitous decline in Israel’s tourism industry in recent years, these people have become a valued source of revenue.

The strange alliance in this case is premised upon the Dominionist belief that Israel must rule the biblical land in order for Christ to return, though when he does, all Jews who do not convert to Christianity supposedly will be incinerated as the believers are lifted into heaven; all this is courteously left unmentioned at the breakfast.""

And apparently Islam subscribes to a similar 'end times' scenario involving the Hidden Imam:

""Consider that many in the US and Iran seek religious salvation through a Middle Eastern blowout. “End times” Christian fundamentalists believe a cataclysmic Armageddon will enable the Messiah to reappear and transport them to heaven, leaving behind Muslims and other non-believers to face plagues and violent death. Iran’s new Shia Islam president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, subscribes to a competing version of the messianic comeback, whereby the skies turn to flames and blood flows in a final showdown of good and evil. The Hidden Imam returns, bringing world peace by establishing Islam as the global religion.""

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0218-28.htm

Is Armageddon unavoidable ? The leadership seems to make it inevitable, on both sides. It you pray, now is a good time to start.

[NewJeffCT]

33. Cafeteria Christianity

Republicans are allowed to pick & choose which values they want to support because they are oh-so superior morally.

[cantstandbush]

34. Repubs are too "religious." They just aren't "Christian." n/t

[moondust]

36. They use it for cover.

To hide the deep well of evil churning just below the surface.

[Rocknrule]

37. I'm so sick of their bullshit "morals"

that always have to do with non-issues like homosexuality or premarital sex or videogame violence or "patriotism." They totally ignore the important stuff: peace, tolerance, equality under the law, the safety of Americans, etc.

[Warren DeMontague]

38. Erm, how about getting rid of the saw that being 'religious' is inherently

a morally superior position to being NOT RELIGIOUS?