Which Liberal/Democratic stereotype do you hate the most?

[More Than A Feeling]

I hate the one that says we want George W. Bush to fail, as though all the death and destruction he has caused, all the corruption he has engendered, and all the hope he has crushed would be worth it so long as George W. Bush personally takes the blame.:mad:

That is not who I am, and that is not any liberal or Democrat that I have ever met or heard of.

[virginia mountainman]

1. That we all want to ban guns

Seams like many of us, are very pro-2nd Amendment.

[Extend a Hand]

2. democrats are for big government

[threadkillaz]

3. If liberal and conservative nicknames have their root in spending,

then THEY are more LIBERAL, and I am more CONSERVATIVE.

Perhaps its time to start calling them LIBERALS.

[Harper_is_Bush]

4. Don't support the troops. n/t

[fearnobush]

5. He has failed all by himself, why would I want more of what he gives

to America on a daily basis. I for one want his ass Impeached and have the rest of his NeoConn cabel sent to jail.

[RobertSeattle]

6. Liberals are bad for the economy

...not.

[noahmijo]

7. The belief that progressives/liberals are all wimps

When quite frankly the majority of us would mop the floor with these well to do pissants in a barfight any day of the week.

The main reason we are for the most part asking for an end to violence and bloodshed is because unlike them we have see enough of it-whether it be through having fought in a war
like Vietnam or Iraq, or like those of us who didn't get to grow up in the richest areas had to scar up our knuckles just to retain our lunch money.

[More Than A Feeling]

11. The conservative I have the most contact with

thinks he is the keeper of all things moral (He's a caveman conservative Catholic), and yet, his belief in his own superiority is based primarily on his supposed ability to win a fistfight. His lack of self awareness is stunning.

[Cleita]

17. Could you explain this?

(He's a caveman conservative Catholic)

As an ex-Catholic I am particularly offended by this. Fistfights are not condoned by the Catholic Church, at least when I had to be around them.

[Harper_is_Bush]

23. Why are you offended by that?

He just stated what the guy is.

And pedophilia is not condoned by the Catholic Church either. It's covered up, but not condoned.
So why should a Catholic who engages in fistfights be so unexpected?

[Cleita]

29. I never thought in a million years I would defend Catholics..

But here I am doing it. The pedophilia thing is awful. However, I don't think Catholics are exclusive in this. They got caught. I think many religious schools have many ways of getting subjects to be compliant.

Fist fights are a peculiarity of the Irish and other people of Europe, who happen to be Catholic, for the most part. They like it, sort of like playing chess. But there are rules to it like boxing. Ferchrissakes, did I speak of pedophilia?

[Harper_is_Bush]

30. Catholics are exclusive in the kind of organized coverup that occurred

a friggin letter sent to US Bishops - signed by the current pope - telling them to conduct thier own investigations over allegations of sexual abuse and to not provide that information to the authorities until 10 years after the victims 18th birthday.

And you're offended by a poster saying that a Catholic he knows likes to engage in fistfights?

[Cleita]

31. You are right about the sexual abuse if you have your

facts, references and links to back yourself up with. Now do you have the same for the fistfights?

[Harper_is_Bush]

32. The story about the Catholic who enjoyed fistfights was by another poster

It was an anecdote about an individual. I'm not sure why you took offense.


I take it you're aware about the letter sighed by the current pope (before he became pope) which instructed bishops to coverup allegations of sexual abuse and withold evidence?
Or do you require a link?

[Cleita]

33. I think it would help the rest of us to understand

where you are coming from. However what does this have to do with the fist fights?

[Harper_is_Bush]

34. link

Pope 'obstructed' sex abuse inquiry
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1469055,00.html


What does it have to do with fistfights? I thought I explained that. You told the poster you were offended because you mistakenly thought he was saying Catholics were prone to fistfights, which you stated are not condoned by the Catholic church.

Pedophilia was an analogy, since it also is not condoned by the Catholic church but engaged in by some Catholics. And just to be clear on my point I explained that it's covered up, but not condoned.

[Cleita]

35. Oh, blah, blah.

eom

[Harper_is_Bush]

38. Next time

Don't go getting "particularily offended" over sweet f#$k all.

Especially when your ex-leader deserves to be in jail.

[U4ikLefty]

47. To quote the 70's show..."BUUUURN!!!!" n/t

[More Than A Feeling]

27. He's against the new HPV vaccine, because he

views STDs as legitimate punishment for having sex. He views the primary role of women as making babies and he proudly admits to being a homophobe.

He thinks of himself as a "true" Catholic, as opposed "cafeteria" catholics (his words, not mine). It's a major part of his identity, and why I identified him as such.

Like I said, a caveman conservative Catholic. As opposed to a run-of-the-mill Catholic, or a progressive Catholic. The point is, he's a fundamentalist.

[jeffrey_X]

39. I believe this is the big one. I've had personal experience with this one

I remember growing up and remembering my father talking about liberals in a very negative way. I wanted so much to be like him and be strong that it held me back from really coming to terms with who I really was.

I still believe this is a huge issue. I think that no matter if a young white male (stereotyping here) was raised conservative yet sided with the left (and ideals of the left) that they have a hard time switching due to the possible scrutiny they face from family and friends. Of course this is just an opinion, but I think it's fairly accurate.

[LibDemAlways]

8. I hate the repukes' sneering use of the term

"bleeding heart," suggesting that compassion for others is something to be scoffed at instead of admired.

[DanCa]

24. I hate the way the say that were communist.

Like were not even American's because we have a drive to help out the less fortunate and they do not. I think that conservatives should learn that carring is sharring.

[Skittles]

40. better a bleeding heart than no heart at all

yes INDEED

[brentspeak]

9. "Democrats are weak on defense"

FDR, Truman, JFK, etc., etc.

Even Clinton -- it was his air strike retaliations that kept Saddam in check during the 90's, and his air strikes that ended the Balkan civil war and Kosovo crisis.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

10. I don't care what they think. It's certainly not worth sweating, and

trying to be different from whatever mold they wanna cast you in.

I've never seen Starbucks as insanely popular ANYWHERE as here in the red, red, shrub worshipping suburbs of North Dallas. And that latte sipping is some bullshit Rove stereotype. Whatever.

[More Than A Feeling]

12. What kills me is the sincerity

people can say these with in person. They genuinely sound like they believe it.

[DanCa]

13. You can't be religious and be a Democrat.

My religion is what leads me to the Democrat Party. Hell if a donkey was good enough for Jesus to ride into Jerusalem than it's good enough for me.

[Cleita]

14. So what is your take?

As far as I can see George W. Bush has failed. I think what most patriotic Americans want is that he leave before he is forced to. He will be forced to. He has annoyed too many people and many of them his own supporters.

[More Than A Feeling]

28. He has failed, but I don't sit around wishing he'd fuck up

more people's lives just so I can blame him for doing it. I wish he wasn't such a failure, because it would have been so much better for the country.

[VPStoltz]

15. The flag means nothing to us and that we all want to do is sit around,

watch Oprah and have the government pay all our bills.

[Initech]

16. Liberals want higher taxes

OK, actually I do fit this stereotype, but that's only because I think we should tax the fuck out of companies and people who make more money than god (like Exxon/Mobil and Halliburton, for instance).

[tmooses]

18. I saw a bumper sticker lately saying something like " Ruin a

liberals day-enjoy working hard". I have worked hard all my life and enjoyed myself doing it-all the time a member of a union and a liberal. I guess I hate the right wing labelling of liberals as not hard working.

[seriousstan]

19. That we love gays.

I no more love gays than I love Protestants or vegetarians or motorcyclists. I like most everyone and love a very diverse group.

Is that bad????:evilgrin:

[w8liftinglady]

20. that we don't support the troops

hell...take a survey-how many neocons ' kids are in iraq?..and how many liberals are veterans..or their family members?

[rpannier]

21. We want Iraq to fail

They talk like we hope it will be a disaster. That civil war breaks out and spills over into the rest of western Asia and millions of people are killed.

[upi402]

22. "Liberal Media" is the most cynical --IMHO

Then the corporate media tells them repeatedly that the media is liberal. All the while it's really a propaganda organ for the corporatists and neocons. And there's the reason people swallow their daily BS and think that UP is DOWN and RIGHT is LEFT.

The fundies think it's liberal because it hasn't completely become part of the christian taliban movement.

[ComerPerro]

25. Depends on your definition of "fail"

[Montauk6]

26. "Bleeding heart liberals are too soft on crime"

Say WHAT???

Funny... I don't recall conservative Republicans fighting to get tough on child abuse, spousal abuse (particularly spousal rape which, for a long time, was never considered rape), date rape, hate crimes, white collar crimes, police corruption (incl. police brutality), reasonable gun legislation (there are 2nd Amendmentites who seem to think this a contradiction), or drunk driving.

[Endangered Specie]

36. (since guns was mentioned already) that we are all Vegetarians/Vegans

[degreesofgray]

37. That since we favor helping the poor

that we must also favor perpetuating poverty. It's the kind of knuckle-headed logic that makes me want to :puke:

[tenshi816]

43. An additional twist on that one that I've heard

is that since we favor helping the poor, we must be poor ourselves otherwise why would we want to help the poor. It ties in with the "looking out for no. 1" mindset of most Republicans. They can't see the point of doing something simply because it's the right thing to do.

[Chovexani]

41. Latte sipping limo liberals

I hate coffee of any sort, especially the overpriced Starbucks crap, and I WISH I had a limo.

I'd drive it over a freeper's lawn. :evilgrin:

[tenshi816]

42. I hate the one

that implies liberals don't have jobs. It crops up frequently on RW websites, sometimes with the admonition to "move out of your parents' basement and get a real job". As if posting on a website means that, if it's a Lib/Dem, the person is unemployed, but if it's a Repub they're toiling away at work (even though they're posting too). It defies logic.

[degreesofgray]

44. Agreed--

I work my butt off at two jobs (teaching), barely making a middle class income, driving an old vehicle, and just getting by despite a Master's degree. So yeah, maybe I should get another job and stop being so lazy (which, actually I will probably do soon, by adding some tutoring hours to my schedule).

[tenshi816]

48. Just two jobs?

Well, Mr. Lazy, you'd better get a third or even a fourth and start pulling your weight, like all the good Republicans do. :evilgrin:

Seriously, though, when I did my first degree, I studied full time and also worked 30 hours a week. At the same time, I knew plenty of right-leaning, Reagan-loving types who were there on daddy's nickel and wouldn't know work if it bit them on the nose.

I've always hated the (incorrect) notion that liberals are lazy and don't know where that idea came from.

[PhilipShore]

45. All Democrats are liberals

[FreedomAngel82]

46. That I'm rich and go to a well-to do college

LOL. Yeah, right!