Freepers in tizzy over Tillman investigation

[warrens]

Who cares if a man was murdered? Investigatin' might hurt the war effort! I wish I had been over there when they heard Tillman was planning to vote for Kerry.

To: Glenn
I hope this doesn't turn into a media circus but no doubt it will. This will really drag further on the moral of the war effort and those supporting the troops from the home front.



12 posted on 03/04/2006 1:41:23 PM PST by newzjunkey (All I need is a safe home and peace of mind. Why am I still in CA?)
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[graywarrior]

1. I can't take them anymore.

I've erased freepers from my existence.

[warrens]

2. Here's an even BETTER one

To: stinkerpot65
All kinds of rumors floating out there. Something about his own brother shooting him.
It's time to end this story NOW.


24 posted on 03/04/2006 2:02:18 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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[soothsayer]

3. yeah, you sure don't want to hurt the 'moral' of those supporting

the troops from the home front. What a moran!

[SteppingRazor]

4. Wow. Note how the freeper doesn't even talk about troop moral...

but about the moral of those "supporting the troops from the home front."

Translation: They can't have a Tillman investigation. It'll make me cry. :cry:

On edit: Oh, by the way, (sic) on the "moral" rather than "morale," if that wasn't obvious :P

[Skidmore]

8. The "morale" of the troops worries them when the

moral depravity that brought this war on does not.

[Selatius]

5. They're not interested in the truth. They can't handle the truth. n/t

[Beaverhausen]

6. His typo is pretty ironic, huh?

"This will really drag further on the moral of the war effort..."

No shit, sherlock!

[BR_Parkway]

15. Perhaps he should go over there to boost their morals, I'm sure they'd

welcome the help.

http://www.usarmy.com

[XemaSab]

7. "drag further on the moral of the war effort?"

It's an immoral war!!!

Or were you trying to say something else there, FReep? :evilgrin:

[Solon]

9. Interesting phrase...

To: Glenn
I hope this doesn't turn into a media circus but no doubt it will. This will really drag further on the moral of the war effort and those supporting the troops from the home front.



12 posted on 03/04/2006 1:41:23 PM PST by newzjunkey (All I need is a safe home and peace of mind. Why am I still in CA?)
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You know what I would say to this douchebag? Hey asshole, you are SAFER at home than at the FRONT!!!!! Jesus Christ on a Cracker, what the fuck does the phrase "Home Front" mean anyways? You are more likely to get struck by lightening three times in a row than be a victim of a terrorist attack, hell, hundreds of people die every year due to that alone, more people die of BEE stings every year, and poverty, and hunger, and car accidents, EACH than they do from terrorist attacks!

[blm]

10. I heard Tillman was telling other soldiers to vote for Kerry and he

planned to campaign for Kerry when he came home.

Exactly what BushInc wouldn't want.

[BlueIris]

30. (incoherent sobbing)

[tridim]

11. How long until they figure out his family is anti-Bush?

For now they're still "sorry for the family". I'm sure that'll change when they find out they're evil Demon-crat hippies.

[MADem]

12. There is a HUGE elephant in the room vis a vis this investigation, too

Recall how some Marines had their Purple Hearts taken away from them, because they were blown up by our own stuff, and not as a consequence of enemy combat? Jack Murtha got outraged, and got the awards restored.

Pat Tillman was awarded a Silver Star for getting shot by his buddies, in essence. If they are going to maintain the integrity of the awards system, they have two choices: Give everyone shot by their pals a Silver Star, thus cheapening the award, or taking the medal back, ripping open old wounds and adding insult to fatal injury.

It is being debated quietly, and likely the debate will grow louder as time goes by.

I sure as hell would not want to be anywhere near that awards board...there's no good answer.

[Hobarticus]

18. Hence, why I think this will go away quietly...

This is just lip service to the family.

[MADem]

28. There are people to whom the awards system is very important

...and they are the ones who will make the stink. I am hearing rumors of grumblings about the whole situation already, from people close to the process.

We all know that plenty of awards are handed out without any genuine merit, but the vetting process at that level is a bit more rigorous. The entire citation is based on a complete and total lie. They made the shit up to justify the award. There is going to have to be some sort of corrective action made, either a change to the citation (and what do you put?? We awarded this guy the Silver Star because he was famous and someone in his unit shot his ass dead, and then we covered it up?) or rescinding of the award.

Frankly, I can live with him keeping the award, but believe me, there are plenty who do not feel that way, simply because his manner of death does not meet the criteria. I myself don't think bits of metal and ribbon mean much, if anything, when you're six feet under due to a hideous error, or accident, or something even worse. And I'll bet the family would readily return it, if they could do so by shoving it up Rummy's ass....

[Hobarticus]

33. I believe it...

Napolean said, you'd be amazed what men would do for bits of ribbon.

This will matter to someone, if they reverse the official conclusions, and they'll raise a stink to pull the Star.

I wouldn't want to be the guy who has to make that call.

[movonne]

13. These people are happy to have a dictator...they don't care about

torture, how many of our soldiers die, just as long as bush stay in power...they make me sick and hateful...

[IsItJustMe]

21. I know how you feel, but remember, some day these same people will have to

live in the real world; in the shit if you will. They will have to leave their protective bubbles and enter into the world of reality. And when they confront that moment, the world will come crushing down on them like a ton of bricks. I look foreword to that day.

[Initech]

14. Wow. My response:

"I hope this doesn't turn into a media circus but no doubt it will. This will really drag further on the moral of the war effort and those supporting the troops from the home front."

Listen, douchebag, I dont care how much you "support the troops". The only kind of support they really care about is the support of their fellow troops, so if you really care about the war, why dont you go enlist? Instead, you act like the investigation into Tillman's death will result in a media circus which might get people to start seriously questioning our war efforts into this crappy war and your piece of shit president like it's the crime of the century. Boo fucking hoo. Either go enlist or shut up.

[Disturbed]

23. Tillman was shot in Afghanistan.

Only a tiny number of people in the USA feel that Afghanistan should not have been invaded.The Taliban were willing to turn over Osama bin Laden if the Bush Regime has provided real evidence that Osama was behind the 911 Attack. The Bush Regime refused to do so and attacked the Taliban. The Bush Regime either allowed Osama to escape or screwed up by outsourcing the possible capture to the Northern Alliance.

Was Tillman a hero? Thousands of Americans volunteered for Military Service shortly after the 911 Attacks and many were killed. Did those other troops that were killed get Silver Stars, also?

[OhioBlue]

34. I don't know if they get Silver Stars too

but they are heroes to me. Tillman walked away from an NFL contract and enlisted to do what he thought was defending our Country post 911. To me that is heroic and for each of those that enlisted with the same intentions, they are also heroes to me.

I'm pissed off at the Administration for misusing them, misleading, lying, being incompetent, poor planning, etc.

[Initech]

37. I think all the people who died in Afghanistan and Iraq...

should be hailed as heroes. Instead, they're shipped as cargo on commercial airplanes like television sets. Sad.

[Hobarticus]

16. Is the poster inferring he would've shot Tillman, himself?

"I wish I had been over there when they heard Tillman was planning to vote for Kerry."

WTF is that supposed to mean???

[marmar]

17. Paranoid fantasies...

"And other rumors about silencing his dissent on Iraq.
Right. Let me guess where such rumors come from.....the same same liberal panty wastes that applauded his death?"


These are some seriously disturbed mofos. :crazy:

[MrSlayer]

19. Well some of them get it.

This particular guy seems to be an anomaly. What I find most interesting about that thread is that they don't know what neo-cons are. They have no idea who Strauss is and what philosophy their President and his administration follow.

[Hobarticus]

25. Like cheerleaders who don't know anything about football....

....they do as they're told.

[centristo]

20. my fav

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1590069/replies?c=50

To: Glenn

Were there any Muslims in his unit?

50 posted on 03/04/2006 2:58:21 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: melt

classy.

176 posted on 03/06/2006 8:25:20 AM PST by kinghorse

[pnorman]

22. Here's another comment from there:

"I think shooting your own fellow soldiers does more to hurt morale than investigating how it happened. I hope they get to the bottom of this"

I LOATHE much of what I see there, and usually refer to it as "Freak Republic". But to totally demonize them as is frequently done here, is counterproductive. Not only that, but it could be very harmful to our own own thinking process ... ie: "blind" us. We're looking at the greatest ever threat, not just to our nation, but to the entire world. This isn't a matter of "ideology" (I think of myself as a Chomsky-socialist), but SURVIVAL. think of that SC Congressman Jones (of "Freedom Fries" fame) and others. Think of John Murtha, who was considered a rabid war-hawk just a year ago.

pnorman

[warrens]

27. If you want to meet the sane FReepers

check out Freedom4um. They're mainly conservatives, but generally pretty sane. And they hate Bush more than we do. Most of them have been banned by the FRetards for opposing the war, complaining about $11 trillion in national debt, opposing the social security boondoggle, etc. Enjoy

[centristo]

24. another great one

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1590069/posts?q=1&&page=151

To: stinkerpot65

"What is it with the military persecuting their own troops?"

Oh, I'm sure I'll be pilloried for this, but the problem is women in uniform. It is their presence that creates the culture that leads to this.

180 posted on 03/06/2006 12:26:46 PM PST by dsc
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[MADem]

32. I rather doubt a female soldier shot him, or was anywhere near his unit

at the time of death. Combat exclusion continues to apply.

This fellow seems to be suggesting that some hot looker in fatigues served as a distraction and caused the shooter or shooter to be inattentive.

Real nitwits, those folk!

[Ksec]

26. Me thinks some soldier resented Tillmans all star role

and took him out. It would be an easy crime to commit. Really easy with the Reicht in charge.
Shoot a guy, claim you mistook him for the enemy, and then with all the false patriotism in the US nobody would question you. You are a soldier. You are incapable of doing wrong.

This is why no country should worship their military.

[lonestarnot]

29. Just like all the rest of those repuke warmongers.

[warrens]

31. Here's why they're so upset

To: OldFriend
And other rumors about silencing his dissent on Iraq.

Regardless, it's not good. But honour is the burden of the good guys, and if we must investigate our own, it's because we aren't barbaric thugs like our enemy.



34 posted on 03/04/2006 2:18:41 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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Some gung-ho Bushsucker, rumor has it, waxed him from behind.

[fishwax]

35. so does anyone suppose tillman was killed b/c the war needed a hero?

:tinfoilhat:

[Skittles]

36. sick little twisted bastards

you can bet if it was their brother they would want to know the truth but that's what makes them freepers - they would deny that right to anyone else. Go to hell you liittle pissants.

[Clarkie1]

38. sickening

what pathetic excuses for human beings

:puke: