Presidential Impeachment Proposals (Harper's) now starting on cspan2

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07:41 AM EST
2:03 (est.)
Forum
Presidential Impeachment Proposals
Harper's Magazine
John Conyers Jr., D-MI
Elizabeth Holtzman , D-NY

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1. It was great, watched most last evening--but missed the end.

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2. It is music to the hears (these is a pro-impeachment panel)

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3. Conyers does a good job as do the others

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4. Bush Impeachment Forum--is the name of the panal.

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5. Sam---from Majority Report on Air America is the moderator.

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6. I'm there and it's music to my ears..... nt

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7. they are introducing the panel

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8. Howdy neighbor

[seemslikeadream]

9. Is CSPAN showing this on line?

Where it could be watched any time? I was looking and couldn't find it.

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10. somone on DU said last night it was streaming but I do not know about

today.

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11. here is contact for Harpers (they have it onscreen)

www.harpers.org

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12. John Dean is on the panel

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13. now introducing John Conyers---LOUD and long Cheers:-)

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14. watchning thanks, making my morning to here the "I" word

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22. I wish all would make it a priority to watch/listen/read this.

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15. Wowie! Zowie! Thanks for the heads up! I have it on now!

BTW... Liz Holtzman is amazing, and so glad she's there with one of my heros, Conyers!

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17. "tyranny"---is the impeachment word to use.

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16. GRAPHIC: Wall St. Journal on BUSH v. Clinton IMPEACHMENT (this is

another post on DU--intereresting

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=588671&mesg_id=588671

Mon Mar-06-06 02:56 PM
Original message
GRAPHIC: Wall St. Journal on BUSH v. Clinton IMPEACHMENT



http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/030606N.shtml

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18. "executive tyranny"---Bush is NOT protecting the constitution which is his

duty. says Lapham

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19. says Congress has obligation to uphold Constitution threw impeachment.

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20. Conyers asking Who/When is Congress going to assert itself!

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21. says Congress has been ignorned and demeaned but has just sat by

by BushCo demeans the Constitution.

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23. Read: The Nation, Jan 30, The impeachment of George W. Bush

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24. says Nixon problems started with the People (Congress did not act till

the People became enraged).

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25. Nixon: I am pres. of the US-I can do what I want to do-- (Holtzman says

she thinks she is hearding those words again)

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26. she says it is the People that have to start the process as Congress will

not do its on its own.

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27. k

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28. k

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29. k

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30. k

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31. Dean iw giving some History of the Nixon issue.

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32. Excellent point about Nixon winning by landslide with most of country

behind him and * "winning" by slim margin.

Note..I am adding the quotes to * winning....

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33. Conyers talking of low poll numbers, loss of war support.

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34. Conyers talking of his Resolution 635

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35. Who has ever heard of unwarrented domestic wiretaps? asked conyers

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38. Conyers Bush acts as he is above the Law! "NOT anymore! says Conyers

[Stephanie]

36. here's more info - links >

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=562453

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42. oh whow--you got to sit in that grand hall and listen. Nice and thanks

for the link.

[Stephanie]

37. rodeo, can yo change your title - it's Harpers not VF

:hi:

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40. Thanks, I don;t know what I was thinking (edited now).

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39. 'executive' tyranny"--Not that he just a bad pres. but he is Dangerous

president says a panal number.

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41. the term has a real nice ring to it! (executive tyranny).

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43. Dean says--Bush is ignorant (not stupid) of so many issues.

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44. says it is Cheney at the bottom of so much.--But Holtzman says it is

the president who is responsible.

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45. talking of how Bush took Gonzalas advice by opting out of Geneva

Convention (since Americans would be breaking law if stayed in Gen. Con).

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46. so glad cspan is covering this (was on last eveing also).

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47. Saw this last night, great discussion

I may become a Harpers subscriber now !

Thanks for doing this thread rodeo, it's powerful stuff. The Q&A at the end was good too, especially the guy who suggested "revolution" and most of the panel agreed !

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49. you are welcome---Dean talking ing how media is scared of WH.

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48. Conyers saying this Forum is a call to action (imperial presidency).

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50. the irony: Congress impeaching clinton with only 70% of people agreeing

and now look at bush low numbers, and congress sitting on its butt.

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51. hope the media starts to get a conscious--panel is dissing them now.

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52. says this IS a constitutional problem--if partison, then it will distract

any effort to impeach.

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53. He had 70% approval at his impeachment ?

At first I mistook that as 70% agreeing to the impeachment !

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55. it was about 60-70 did NOT want impeachment (depending on the

poll you were looking at at the time)

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60. Lying about sex should not be an impeachable offense

In the Bush World, it's okay to screw your country :silly:

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61. and invade countries, and spy on Americans and torture, and and and

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54. Conyers want the Inquiry--a Grand jury ect. wants to build a case.

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56. some in audiance says will not happen till Libby is convicted. umm...

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57. again: You will not hear about it in the 'paper of record" -the 250 emails

that suddenly reappeared.

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58. two ways to proceed:--1. go to House--say Begin impeachment NOW>

2.--or start of Select Committee to build up case.

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59. Conyers saying media will not cover this--and believes Select Committee

is the way to go.

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62. 0 recommendations.

[EFerrari]

63. Yikes, I just woke up enough to type!

There's one.

This is one of the best panels I've ever seen on CSPAN.

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64. It should be required viewing for DU !

Every other thread is about impeaching, and this panel was a good lesson on the what's and what not's of the process. A lot to think about, John Dean was very encouraging !

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65. Does CSPAN only sell video? This would be worth

duping and handing out.

Like, to Reid and to Pelosi.

[EFerrari]

66. kick