"Millions of abortions cause a shortage of cheap labor"...

[splat@14]

"we could have used those people" ....50th District Senator Nancy Schaefer (state Sen, Georgia)

Community gathers for Eggs and Issues

By Edith Gaines, Staff writer



A bite or two of eggs and a little political sniping mixed at Saturday's “Eggs and Issues,” as the community gathered to hear local, state and federal official and their representatives speak on issues of the day.

District 23 Representative Alan Powell, eight-term Democrat, gave his take on politics in Atlanta.

“There's not a whole lot of difference between the parties,” he said, adding that he has seen the same mistakes repeated by both. “I don't like either party.”

He mentioned unfunded mandates that threaten to increase property taxes, the 65 percent solution for schools, eminent domain, faith based initiatives and the threat of interbasin water transfers as among priorities for the legislatures.

Powell said he has proposed an amendment to freeze property assessments until the property is sold or changed.


He also mentioned illegal immigration. “What part of ‘illegal' do these politicians not understand,” he said.

Powell expressed concern about the fiscal condition of the State, saying that bonded indebtedness, which will approach 6.8 percent with the new budget, threatens the state's AAA bond rating.

He said the state has enjoyed a AAA rating for the past 30 to 40 years and compromise of it could cost “hundreds of millions of dollars in interest,” he said.

While state revenues are up, he said overspending and borrowing could increase property taxes.

50th District Senator Nancy Schaefer, who serves on the economic development committee, mentioned jobs, industry and tourism as issues needing attention. She said we need to “make Georgia a destination.”



Commenting on illegal immigration, Schaefer said 50 million abortions have been performed in this country, causing a shortage of cheap American labor. “We could have used those people,” she said.

http://www.thehartwellsun.com/articles/2006/03/01/news/news05.txt



The General weighs in...
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/

[Debau2005]

1. This HAS to be a typo

The way the sentence is structured makes no sense...Am I surprised that she probably said it? Uh, no...but WTF!

"Commenting on illegal immigration, Schaefer said 50 million abortions have been performed in this country, causing a shortage of cheap American labor. “We could have used those people,” she said."

[Crowdance]

2. And a lack of cannon fodder, too!!

This is the kind of issue these folks are really about. Their emotive displays about the precious fetus are sleight-of-hand to cover up their real concern--the ongoing supply of "cheap labor" which ensures the continued supply of soldiers, all toward the end of increasing their ability to suck the wealth out of everything they sit near. Gotta' keep those uterus factories pumping out the raw materials that'll make 'em rich!

[bloom]

22. "uterus factories"

If us women were to think in terms of the business model - we should be CHARGING them for creating babies. $ One million, $$$$$$$$$$ Ten million. ??? We're not used to putting a dollar amount on these "things".

[wicket]

3. Oh my fucking god!

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[BuyingThyme]

4. Unfuckingbelievable.

[bunkerbuster1]

42. Just another day in Georgia, the biggest hillbilly state in the US.

Outside of a few progressive enclaves, the state is hillbilly heaven, and our "Rat to Laffers" are jes' chompin at the bit to see how much pro-criminalization shit they can get away with.

[Solly Mack]

5. I've had republicans tell me that abortion hurts the future tax base

- less workers , less taxes


that's what women are worth - breeders so government can have taxes from under-paid labor

[KittyWampus]

18. More unwanted children... more taxes spent on services

from child welfare to criminal justice systems.

sigh

:(

[Solly Mack]

19. exactly

those consequences they don't ever consider...quality of life means nothing to them.

[LaurenG]

6. Damn this just pisses me off

I wrote a rant about this on another forum 2 years ago. It was the only reason I could think of for those idiots to want to ban abortion. :cry: :banghead:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. C',mon ladies, start producing some bedpan emptiers and tomato pickers.

[splat@14]

11. Ladies on the "right" need to put their uterus where their mouth is!

Like to say I thought of it but its a line from Bill Maher last year sometime....still appropriate!
Splat

[lectrobyte]

8. The Fatherland needs more children...

http://www.shoaheducation.com/motherhood.html

One would not expect motherhood to be a favored issue of the Nazis, but it was, and it was highly noted and promoted. While the Nazis fought to rid European bloodlines of Jewish traces, it conversely sought to promote the notion of German Motherhood and general proliferation of German progeny. German mothers were treated with special regard: they were giving birth to the generation which Hitler felt could be fully his. (See Hitlerjugend Hitler wanted to see the proliferation of large German families with excellent bloodlines: a theme that echoed throughout his years as Fuhrer. Mothers of large families were honored and give special privileges: in some cases they were given financial benefits for large families. A Mother's Cross was a blue "Iron Cross' on a ribbon which was awarded to German Mothers. In order to produce large families, Young couples were given the option of low interest loans which reduced in repayments with increasing numbers of children. If a family had 4 or 5 children, the loans would not have to be repayed at all.

[no_hypocrisy]

16. She wants an American Lebensboren program perhaps?

Regarding the Mutterschaft medals to prodiginous Nazi mothers, if a youngster on the street saw a woman wearing one of the glitzier ones (silver, gold), s/he was supposed to salute the mother with a "Heil Hitler!" as she was a heroine of the Reich.

[Dhalgren]

9. I wonder where she gets her figures? Over what period of time

is she speaking? Since 1973? What the hell is she talking about?

[raccoon]

13. She probably pulled the figures out of her arse. nt

[Mike03]

10. Our Beloved Country

has turned into some fuckin' Kafka nightmare. This is truly unbelievable.

[raccoon]

12. This woman is cracked in the head. It would seem that a lot

of our elected or selected officials are suffering from Mad Cow disease.

Last time I checked, they were plenty of low-wage workers coming into the US from Mexico, Central America, and other countries.

She even looks like a crazy person in the photo.

No, it's not about low-wage labor, nor even about cannon fodder--though both of those are benefits (???) of banning abortion--to people like this whackjob.

It's about, "She did the crime (she had sex), she does the time (carries the pregnancy to term)."

[Turbineguy]

14. Oh, no Mr. Bill,

Not a shortage of Untermenschen! We seem to already be suffering from a shortage of violent criminals. What can be next?


(extreme) :sarcasm:

[rucky]

15. "Did I just say that out loud?" n/t

[Bridget Burke]

17. Schaefer assumes only poor women get abortions?

The rejected fetuses would only have become uneducated grownups doing shit jobs? Idiot.

If our population growth does slow down with time, we will need more immigrants. I'll bet she doesn't like "legals" either.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

20. Well, when we get to where we can grow the slaves on embryo farms,

we won't have to worry about the poor people having them anymore. Won't that be nice?

[Left Is Write]

26. You mean like Brave New World's Gammas, Deltas, and Epsilons?

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

27. 'zactly.

:hi:

[MountainLaurel]

21. What this statement brought to mind

Were the orphan trains that took thousands of East Coast street kids to work on farms in the Midwest, often in abusive situations, and the poor farms across the country that housed children who were considered "deviant" or whose parents could no longer afford to take care of them. I think this thread needs to be linked up with the one on "entitlement orphanages" because the issues of access to abortion, the abuse of the working poor, and class issues are intrinsically linked.

[Debau2005]

23. Her email address:

[e-mail]

By the way she is up for re-election this year.

[gollygee]

24. That's sick

we have a shortage of worker bees to make the rich richer.

Nice.

[Debau2005]

25. My god I am mad!

I just emailed her this! I am thinking if I had more time I could have been more succint...

:Thank you for making yet ANOTHER spectacle of backwards Georgia for the world to see!! I am sorry that I don't live in your district, as I would be the leader of the fight to have you voted out of office. What were you thinking?

"Schaefer said 50 million abortions have been performed in this country, causing a shortage of cheap American labor. “We could have used those people,” she said." from http://www.thehartwellsun.com/articles/2006/03/01/news/news05.txt

After viewing your record, I am not surprised by this statement. I read with dismay that you find children are better off in foster care then in loving homes that happen to be with a homosexual couple. Your quote:
"There is no issue more paramount for a state than promoting the very best social structure for educating, socializing and preparing children to become productive citizens. The very best family structure possible is to place children in homes that have both mother and father.

There are those who argue that children are better off in a homosexual environment than to be left in the foster care system. However, it is not in the best interest of the children, nor of this country, to remove children from foster care and put them in a homosexual environment. Foster care is temporary. Adoption is permanent. The long-term consequences of homosexual adoption far outweigh any short-term relief of foster care. Studies show that most homosexual relationships are temporary and high-risk. Evidence indicates homosexual parents often fall far short of the mark of responsible and caring behavior.

Children tend to imitate their parents. They need male and female role models. Adoption laws, in the best interest of children, set forth broad-based social policies. To ban children being adopted by same-sex couples is solid policy. It is rooted in Judeo-Christian ethics and in our American history.""


This is another one of your well thought out, lovely quotes:
"I just don't feel like homosexual clubs have anything to do with readin', writin' and 'rithmetic."
— Georgia State Senator Nancy Schaefer (R — Turnerville), who introduced a bill requiring a parent's written permission before a student could join any after-school club, in order to stop gay-straight alliance clubs that draw together students to share common experiences and concerns, The New York Times, June 9, 2005.

And of course you sponsored one of the bills that will ultimately serve as the stepping stone to ending my right to chose in this state. I am not sure why you think personal choice is any of your business. By the way who is going to pay for all of these ultrasounds? Who is going to adopt, or care for the children that result in unwanted pregnancies? If I am sexually assaulted who is going to comfort me, when I become pregnant and have lost my right to chose? YOU??? I doubt it.
http://www.grtl.org/statepriorities.asp

You are truly one of the conservative, nosey, un-educated people that this country seems to breed at the moment. Which causes genuinelly good and decent people like myself to have sleepless nights. I believe in the Pledge of Allegiance! Of course, my Pledge of Allegiance states "Liberty and Justice for All." It seems to me that your pledge is more along the lines of "Liberty and Justice for white, upper middle class, heterosexual Americans."

Shame on you!"

[splat@14]

45. Great letter, should embarrass the hell out of her. Don't feel too bad

about Georgia, I live in east Texas and you can't swing a dead cat down here without hitting someone with the same narrow minded outlook as Schaefer.

Should maybe post your letter with the links from the newspaper on the Georgia page?

Give `em hell Debau!
Cheers,
Splat

[sinkingfeeling]

28. And exactly how many children has Sen. Schaefer produced for the

state and America? Where are they, are they being patriotic and serving in Iraq? Or are they shoring up cheap American labor? Inquiring minds want to know.

[area51]

29. "We could have used those people"

:wtf:

Note nazi usage: used. Not "cherished", not "enjoyed the company of". USED. That is sick.

Of course, they never stop to think about how there aren't enough jobs to go around in this country as it is, and in the future, I don't think there'll be enough fresh water to go around, either.

And as I believe another poster mentioned, we have no shortage of cheap labor, as we have a lot of illegal immigrants.

If these people were really "pro-life", they'd be on the forefront of the universal healthcare movement. But it's not about being pro-life, it's about being anti-female.

[sinkingfeeling]

30. Answering my own questions...She has 5 children and is a RW

wack-o. She founded something called, Family Concerns, Inc. Here's what the Christian Action League has to say:

Description: Family Concerns, Inc. was created to strengthen the family through the research of local, state, national and international policy and through the education of citizens and leaders in the vital importance of obeying God's laws in our society, and in our culture, and in participating in the government process according to the providential guidance of our Founding Fathers. The Four-Point Purpose of Family Concerns is:
• Research and identify from a biblical perspective issues of concern to the family.
• Educate and equip Christians/citizens for effective involvement and service.
• Motivate the church and the community to responsible action through every means of communication available;
• Help turn America back to the God of the Bible, the God of our Founding Fathers.
Email:
Last Update: 2004/3/31 7:57 Hits: 139


She was just 'elected' in the 2004 election.

[No Exit]

34. I want her kids in Iraq NOW.

But I suppose the ho-bag will come back and tell us they're "too young" or something. Well, dammit, even if her kids are in the 10-yr-old range, they can CERTAINLY sweep some floors and clean some toilets! Cheap labor, you know!

[Gormy Cuss]

31. I commend the state senator for her honesty.

Not many of her ilk would dare say that in public, but you just know there are plenty of others thinking it.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

35. No Gormy Cuss, you're wrong there.

I attended a League of Women Voters candidates forum in LaGrange, IL on Sunday. One the Puke candidates for the 3rd IL Congressional District, uttered almost the same words. The man's name is Arthur Jones.

These right wing asshats are everywhere. This guy doesn't stand a chance as does the other Puke candidate in the November election.

The real fight in my district is going to be in the Democratic primary on March 21, 2006. The present Congressman is a DINO as is another candidate but thank God there is a real Dem running and hopefully he'll be successful two weeks from today.

[Gormy Cuss]

38. That's two.

And in a short period of time. There must be a memo being circulated to spread this idea. If so, I'm all for it. As I said, I believe there are many out there thinking it. Get them to say it in public in an unprotected arena and they'll learn very quickly how most people react to such an assertion.

Did anyone challenge him, or was he just ignored? In that forum there should have been many equipped to hand him his hat in short work.

I know the right wing jerks are everywhere. I prefer it when they crawl out from their ideological bomb shelters and face the rest of us.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

39. No one challenged him but as I said chuckles ran through the room.

The League of Women Voters is pretty strict at these things. Even the audience needs to be bi-partisan and all the Dem candidated just ignored it. Why fall into a trap by a right winger?

[Gormy Cuss]

44. Chuckles are good.

Nothing subtle about that response.;)

[leeroysphitz]

32. She and people like are f@cking Nazis, PERIOD.

No two ways about it. Culture of LIFE my ass.
At birth (if not sooner)human fetuses become NUMBERS to these bastards.
Numbers have ZERO rights, "female" numbers, somehow, have even LESS.

[stepnw1f]

33. You Nailed It

They are Nazis who have no respect for life at all.

[leeroysphitz]

37. Right. Godwin's law be damned. If it SPEAKS like a nazi and

ACTS like a nazi...

[Yollam]

36. Sorry, feminist friends...

...but I'm going to use the "B" word, so cover your eyes!

What a BITCH!

Have I mentioned this morning how much I HATE these people? No labor should ever be "CHEAP". Every human being's efforts ought to be REWARDED.

I hope this republican piece of filth drowns in her own vomit for her Marie Antoinette attitudes.


And please tell me that that pic is photoshopped. That grin is fucked up.

[splat@14]

46. The photo is altered, from General Jesus blog, he does this quite often.

[Hubert Flottz]

40. We need children to fight for the Fatherland...

Same deal the Germans had cooking.

[salin]

41. why we should make sure they are born and put into serfdom instead

ugh.

[KamaAina]

43. "Eggs" and Issues?

Looks like eggs -- not the scrambled or over easy kind -- are the only issue on Rep. Schaefer (R-Dark Ages)'s "mind". :puke: