lets get this straight. last couple weeks only. no sex toys. no fun

[seabeyond]

with sex. no abortion. no morning after. no contraceptive. christian state only.

anything else i am missing. ?????

just want to know. repugs making it really easy to mock them. told hubby they will put some chip on his penis and it will go off, if he experiences any pleasure. to be afraid, very very afraid.

orgasm....... beep beep beep

[Gman]

1. I think you've got it!

Burkas are next

[Ilsa]

4. No, no, no. The fundies I know all drool over women's bodies

and want to see more. They can be quite rude about it. They'll freak if they no longer have something to gawk at. They want those cute teeage girls (just not their own) to wear the bare midriffs and low cut tank tops and short skirts. They are some of the worst hypocrites about keeping hard core pornography hidden in a closet, also.

[seabeyond]

5. i know, that is such the fuckin hypocrisy of male

two brothers and a father. (mom passed). lecture me on female, sluttiness, abortion, demands...... yet they are into the porn, going ot strip clubs and screwing girls,........ 30 yrs younger than them. they treat female as such a slut and then botch about the slut female.

ah, retarded webs we weave

[trixie]

17. That is why they are all for "modest dress" for women

It is the fault of women and girls that they rape and commit adultry.

[BlueEyedSon]

2. No, you've got it. I guess I would add that the other force of control

in our lives will be the corporations.

Will the Church and the Corporations combine or fight for supremacy in the US, I wonder....

[elehhhhna]

3. They're running on State Controlled Morality. It's all they've got --

and I don't think it's going to work for 'em.

We have daughters (as ya know) and my husband is disgusted by these blatant moves to curtail women's privacy rights, as should all good Daddies, whether they have sons or daughters.

[seabeyond]

7. which takes me to a post i did above. interesting

and htese males that are so disrespectful to female, have daughters, that they are so afraid will be involved with a male like them. that is why they want all these laws. they treat women as sluts, and then demand the virgin of daughter. so..... mother mary/madonna

[mongo]

13. I wish that some DU'ers could refrain from characterizing this

as a fight between men and women.

After all, the SD anti-abortion legislation was introduced by a woman, same with the TN sex toy legislation.

It's more a fight between the dominionists and the rest of us. And you're not the worst offender seabeyond, but some other threads recently have just been about demonizing men for this.

It's not a gender war -- it's a crusade.

[seabeyond]

14. i specifically identified three males in my life, that are in battle

with female and what they expereince and demand in life from female. it helps me to understand the male that is now in power doing destruction on female right. i certainly see this as a battle between male and female because i feel that is how they feel. i really believe it is a madonna/mother mary complex. which is fascinating to me.

the women that particpate, i do head on battle, woman on woman, catfight.

obviously i dont see all men like this. hubby being one. if hubby was like that, i wouldnt be teasing about having a chip on his penis, he would not get the humor.

i am allowed to be mad what males are doing today to women. as i tell my white boys, though they are on blacks side, blacks are allowed to be mad at whites. just as with women bullshit, males are allowed to be mad, even though i am not one of those females, i do understand what men talk about and support them. oh oh oh just like all those that arent christians in my view are allowed to be mad at christians, even though that isnt the christian i am. what i do is embrace their anger, validate and listen to their anger, and acknowledge their anger. then they see i am on their side, and we can work together

so i know you are feeling attacked, i am sorry. but i hope you can handle it cause us women, and a whole lot of men have work to get done.

why do you take it personally, as a whole, as if anyone is tlaking about you. if you know that isnt who you are, you know it isnt you that is being talked about

anyway.....

[mongo]

16. But it is not a battle between men and women

It's a battle being fought by theocrats who are hell bent on ruining America.

I'm sorry you see it that way. I'm sorry you see men as a whole as the enemy -- especially when there are just as many theocrats who are women.

[seabeyond]

18. sorry you see men as a whole as the enemy

mongo, where do you get that i see man as enemy at all, let alone as a whole. no where in my post is there that. even in battle i dont see enemy. this so called enemy is my friend, brother, father..... stranger on the street that would stop and change my tire for me. not too scary of an enemy wouldnt you agree.

dont paint me as something i am not, to win argument.

in the beyond, beyond the physical world we live in i do believe the male energy is trying to gain power one last time. before it merges with female. in merging the female and male in who we are as individuals will allow it as a society as a whole, and we will have peace. i think this moment in time is a huge big ole dump of that patriarchal male energy

now with that, seeing it beyond the 3d world, then i cannot see male as enemy.....

whether you understand what i am talking about or think it is jibberish, it is where i am coming from. so no male is NOT my enemy. male is as much me as my female

[mongo]

22. OK.

But just to be clear, here is where I got the idea (post #14) i certainly see this as a battle between male and female because i feel that is how they feel.

But hell, I don't want to fight with you -- and thanks for clarifying. but do step back and look at what you're saying:

in the beyond, beyond the physical world we live in i do believe the male energy is trying to gain power one last time. before it merges with female. in merging the female and male in who we are as individuals will allow it as a society as a whole, and we will have peace. i think this moment in time is a huge big ole dump of that patriarchal male energy


You've just basically painted everything bad in the world as male, and everything good as female.

Perhaps there is some truth in there on an artypical, abstact level, if you buy into a whole bunch of thinking about what male and female archtypes are -- I try to keep my head on the ground these days, but I do hear what your saying (I have the symbolic great rite tatooed on my R thigh). If we want to paint general qualities as male and female then we have to acknowledge that there are just as many bad qualities that can be ascribed to both male and female as good. So, I don't really think it is some great coming together of male and female energy (or whatever you want to call it) as cultivating the best in both male and female.

Damn you Seabeyond, I try to keep my metaphysical thoughts to myself. You outed me.

But I still love ya!

[tanyev]

6. Mandatory uniforms for women.

[seabeyond]

8. this is sick

so posts above and then see what you give, present in picture. last week i watched primetime with married to more than one group in colorado arizona. and then the fundies in my area and watch and experience for a decade how they condition both male and female, from the youngest of ages. some really sick......

then looking at this picture

to make all these women one, no individuality,.... no shining..... just a mass of blurred red. the picture i get is not pretty

[Ilsa]

9. But they aren't slutty enough for today's fundies...

And remember the underground the elite had for exercising their sexuality and wild side? They had secret bars, pornography, prostitutes, etc.

[tanyev]

10. Oh, sure. That will be where the "sluts" who have had their tubes tied

or are otherwise unable to have children will have to go. The breeders, though, will be needed to serve the theocratic fascist elite's desire to reproduce.

[Ilsa]

11. Oh, you're right! I forgot -- that's how it played out. nt

[mongo]

12. When I read this thread title

I thought you were speaking personally -- and I was going to offer my deepest sympathies!!!

It just gets worse every day, doesn't it. The rejection of science, demonizing sex for pleasure, women's right to their own damn body -- how long before we are an offical theocratic state?

Normal Americans are under attack on several fronts.

[seabeyond]

15. funny funny you. no empathy or sympathy needed,

oh forgot the demonizing of science, yes a world of make belive and creationism.

yes.... the more and more of this total bullshit, surely americans will wake up nad see. or start dressing all as one, wink

[Nikki Stone 1]

19. A chip! of course!

That's how these bastards think.

[readmoreoften]

20. don't forget "still no gays either" nt

[seabeyond]

21. how in the world could i forget the unforgettable going to destroy planet

earth gay issue. adn our marriages. lol lol. ya. wow.

man what a decade brings