Rumsfeld Just Accused The Press Of Aiding And Abetting

[cali]

and the press is just sitting back and letting him describe them as traitors who are hoping for civil war, and trying to make it happen. What's wrong with these guys????

[MadMaddie]

1. They have taken the gloves off now...

Now they are going to implement new laws that prohibits the media from reporting anything about the failed war...

They have said it publicly...
And that is the warning...
Now they are going to make it the law....

[cali]

3. That miserable excuse for a human being

just tried to connect Al Qaeda to the MSM. I hate him with a burning incandescent hatred.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

19. I've thought that the media was restrained

since the pre-emptive strike rule went into effect. When at 'War' the government controls the media.?

[kenny blankenship]

2. Nothing's "wrong" with them

they work for the same people who own this government. They help "catapult the propaganda" and when propaganda isn't enough, because a policy has failed, they function as the whipping boy.

[cali]

4. sorry, that's just

comfortable conspiracy bullshit.

[kenny blankenship]

6. That's funny

You're the one lacking a cogent explanation for what you see happening.

You note that the press is lying down as Rumsfeld accuses their reporting for damaging the war effort (this is the same press that cheered on the war's beginning and parroted every lie used to start it)

Then you fail to draw the obvious conclusion--that they're prostrating themselves before power, just as before, because they serve that power. You strike the pose of "how it could possibly happen?" that the press could lay itself down like a doormat for this abuse and blame deflection. You give no reason. And you give no reason for rejecting my explanation.

Either the press is populated by individuals with the same bizarre character flaw purely by chance or the problem is systemic. The idea that national correspondents share the same mental illness by coincidence is simply absurd. The problem is systemic. What mechanism could underlie it, what could account for it? The fact that this government is bought and paid for by corporations, some of the largest of whom also own the highly concentrated news media, jumps to the fore...

Individual newsmen need not be "complicit" in any conscious sense. In the first place, they have all been SELECTED to get where they are. Not selected by the people who watch them, but by the people who pay their salaries. They are also not exclusively responsible for what they write. Everything they produce is edited and subject to being pulled by people more closely tied to the ownership. What individual journalists are consciously aware of is that if the management are unhappy with their output, for whatever reason be it lazy on-camera delivery or because the owners are unhappy about them asking hostile questions of the wrong people on the wrong subjects, then they are going to be replaced very soon by another "individual journalist" who is going to do a "better job" in the view of General Electric, or Westinghouse or the Western World Funding Corporation. That part about their resignation letter lying in a drawer somewhere is never far from their minds. Without ever signing their souls over to the Devil, or doing anything of a conscious, overt conspiratorial nature, "individual journalists" who are allowed a platform to reach a mass audience become part of a system that is complicit with itself. They are, from the point of view of the system that selects them, that pays them and that actively polices them, not individuals at all but interchangable parts, all intended to do the same work--and eminently replaceable should they ever stop doing that work. What is that work but to advertize the correctness of the corporate viewpoint, and its representatives in science, medicine, business, law and government? The medium is the message is still true, as far as it goes; but having sold the medium successfully a trillion times over, the message now draws in the entire worldview of the medium's owner, to celebrate and promulgate his eternal rightness in all things, to every corner of the Earth and Outer Space.

And who accuses the individual journalists of being the monolithically "liberal media"? Why that would be the media itself. Is that accusation the symptom of some reasonless, self-hating character flaw shared by a majority of individual journalists? Of course not, it is rather a self-preserving, defensive function required by the ascendancy of corporations over citizens to maintain the myth of the demonic "enemy within", the paranoid fantasy that economic rulers would already be delivering the best of all possible worlds for us to live in, if it were not for the sinister plots of Liberals (worshippers of alien gods, perverts, unAmerican traitors) who want to wreck this perfection by injecting their twisted views through strategic institutions like the press and Hollywood.

Seems to me you aren't in much of a position to tell what's bullshit and what's not.
(BTW: the truth is far from comfortable)

[cali]

8. Just after I wrote, they started hitting back by

quoting the ambassador. That they're cowed by Rumsfeld is undeniable. Deciding that being cowed equals complicity is a logical fallacy. Though much of the press hopped on the bandwagon and cheered on the invasion, there were many notable exceptions. And sorry, I do think most conspiracy theories are both lazy and comfortable, a way of not dealing with the more complex truths.

[mitchtv]

16. Many notable exceptions?

more like a few timid exceptions. I'm not s tin hatter, but these imbedded journalists playing soldier and covering when independent journalists are bombed and murdered by US forces , irks me.

[lectrobyte]

10. GE sold NBC while I wasn't looking?

[cali]

12. NBC is the entirety of the Press? n/t

[lectrobyte]

13. Just an example. It's owned by a handful of corporations.

[still_one]

5. they might own the press here

but they don't own it throughout the world, and they won't be able to stop the truth from coming out

[Double T]

7. stepford jounalists

[cliss]

9. Beware.....

Rumsfailed has gone through a painful assessment of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. There is no doubt Rumsfailed has been told it's a mess. It's worse than that: the country is sliding into a civil war. This whole fiasco has bankrupted our treasury, with hundreds of thousands dead.

What's Rumsfool's reaction?

He believes there is only one enemy, and it's the Press. The Media. If he just contol it 100%, then the battle will be won. And this must be done around the world. Every media outlet, every paper must present the facts as he sees them.

The guy is nuttier than a fruitcake. He's really over the edge. Many people already know this.

[Hubert Flottz]

15. The guy is nuttier than a fruitcake.

I think you are exactly right! I really believe that.

[FreedomAngel82]

11. This is nothing new

The rightwing talking heads all say that. See O'Reilly and the troture pictures. :eyes:

[malaise]

14. Have you ever seen pimps

show whores respect?? The majority of the press have been Bush whores.

[Disturbed]

17. If Congress had done their job...

this asshole would be in prison.



Rumsfailed Admitted to Violating Geneva Convention

Rumsfailed admitted in public on TV that when CIA Director Tenet requested that an Iraqi prisoner be sent to a secret Afghan/US Prison that Rumsfailed did so. After four months a DOD Attorney stated that this was an illegal act. Rumsfailed then ordered that this prisoner be sent back to Abu Graihib but the prisoner was purposefully not listed at that location, also an illegal act. Rumsfeld also admitted to signing orders for tougher interogation methods which violated the Geneva Conventions.

Rumfailed has commited at least three violations of the Geneva Convention thereby also violations of The Constitution of the USA. Recently it has been found out that even more detainees were "ghost detainees". The fact that Rumsfailed and Tenet have not been charged speaks volumes. If Congress wishes to garner any respect they should move forward with Rep. Rangle's Impeachment Declaration of Rumsfailed and also prosecute Ex. CIA Tenet.

The US, Govt., Congress, and the Justice Dept no longer abide by the Geneva Convention or the Constitution of the USA.

[malaise]

18. He should be on his way to the Hague n/t