Excuse me-SEIU Andrew Stern to back Republican over democrat?

[w8liftinglady]

I just heard on Bloomberg news that SEIU(offshoot of afl-cio) president stern to back his own candidate against democrats-who haven't done enough to prevent jobs going overseas?Has anyone got any additional info on this?
http://www.seiu.org/

[katsy]

1. He backed bush* last election also...

service industry. Fastest growing, low-paying, illegal immigrant hiring union in the country, isn't it?

[Warpy]

2. They represent a lot of other people like NURSES

so can the anti immigrant rhetoric.

I know where he's coming from. I won't support or vote for another DLC candidate, period.

I'll write in Mickey Mouse if the Greens don't get it together to put up a candidate.

[meegbear]

3. Who is the Democratic candidate?

Is the candidate a DLC member?

[w8liftinglady]

4. that seems counterproductive,imho

I'm a nurse,and the republicans do not represent ANYTHING I stand for.I'll vote for any democrat that runs,just to get a majority...we can duke out principles later.

[katsy]

8. Hold on now.

Corporations that hire illegal immigrants do so for one reason and one reason only... to line their pockets at everyone's expense. They are criminals. I'm for a LIVING WAGE for everyone. I'm also for a sensible, humane Immigration policy that IS enforced. What good is it to take in immigrants if you're just going to kick them and their babies to the curb because a fucked up administration bankrupted the country. I'm an immigrant, now a citizen.

Also, nurse's aides (I don't have figures for Nurses), a low paying, no high school diploma requirement job is another one of the fastest growing jobs in the country.

Do you think SEIU has raised the standard of living for their members?

[mdmc]

17. SEIU will do what they think is good for their members

dlc, gop, whatever...

[bullimiami]

6. i dont think so. seiu was one of the strongest supporters of dean.

i dont believe they supported bush ever.

i wouldnt jump to conclusions until I found out about the actual candidate.

[salin]

7. I don't recall the SEIU backing

bush. Pretty sure that was *not* the case.

[katsy]

9. My apologies..

you're right. I thought it was SEIU that backed *

[salin]

10. the teamsters might have, in 2000.

[katsy]

11. Thanks...

I thought one union did and I was shocked. No working man or woman have ANY business voting neocon... unless they're masochists.

[mike_c]

5. no, but I've said many times that dems have got to start performing...

...if they expect support.

I'm in much the same boat with regard to Diane Feinstein. She has betrayed her constituency so consistently that I want her defeated at virtually any cost. Unless she is pushed aside by a dem challenger in the primaries, which is vanishingly unlikely, the only alternative will be to vote for a republican challenger in November. Oh, there might be third party candidates as well, but in this case the primary objective is remove DiFi from office because she does not deserve to retain her position of public trust. It might very well be that the only way to achieve that is to elect a Republican, who will likely be worse, and hope to replace them in 2012. But the point is that DiFi does not deserve to be reelected and there are only a limited number of mechanisms available for achieving that objective. The same is true for many other dem members of congress as well, but that's a decision that their own constituents will have to make. But for my money, when someone has consistently shown that they do not represent my best interests or my political philosophy, I want to see them replaced.

[xxqqqzme]

12. at a recent event, a member of Gold Star Families for

Peace said they met w/ DiFi and she professed not 2 know the US was building permanent bases in Iraq; had never heard of PNAC; and didn't know raisin brain had cut veteran's benefits. Now either she is ignorant or she is lying. Either of which means she has no business in the senate.

[RagingInMiami]

13. SEIU did back Kerry, but Stern said it would be better in the long-run if

Kerry lost the election.



By David S. Broder
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 27, 2004; Page A13

BOSTON, July 26 -- Breaking sharply with the enforced harmony of the Democratic National Convention, the president of the largest AFL-CIO union said Monday that both organized labor and the Democratic Party might be better off in the long run if Sen. John F. Kerry loses the election.


Andrew L. Stern, the head of the 1.6 million-member Service Employees International Union (SEIU), said in an interview with The Washington Post that both the party and its longtime ally, the labor movement, are "in deep crisis," devoid of new ideas and working with archaic structures.

Stern argued that Kerry's election might stifle needed reform within the party and the labor movement. He said he still believes that Kerry overall would make a better president than President Bush, and his union has poured huge resources into that effort. But he contends that Kerry's election would have the effect of slowing the "evolution" of the dialogue within the party.

Asked whether if Kerry became president it would help or hurt those internal party deliberations, Stern said, "I think it hurts."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16387-2004Jul26.html

[blm]

14. Stern took no public stand when Alito - a probusiness, antiworker judge

was being scrutinized. He may have been against him in union newspapers but was content to let the RW message machine make it all about abortion instead of holding any press conferences about Alito's record of ruling FOR the corporations.

I don't trust the guy. Alito should have been where he took a stand.

[madfloridian]

15. Go to the SEIU blog, and notice who is doing the blogging.

I am not sure what is going on, but you need to notice the bloggers. Stern knows the GOP does not support unions, he knows Dean is working with the unions all the time. He was a big Dean friend and supporter, so I am having trouble figuring this out.

[mdmc]

16. they backed pataki after 9-11

and spent the rest of his term protesting him and trying to explain their support for him.