To all those DUers who do not support Cindy's actions in front of the UN

[populistdriven]

So she was arrested in front of the UN for blocking a sidewalk. Big fucking deal.

You may think Cindy's 15 minutes of fame are up.

But you obviously aren't thinking about her.

You must be thinking about yourself.

She lost her son. Not her dad, mother etc. Her SON.

I lost my father 5 years ago and there isn't a single day that goes by that I don't think about him.

And he died of natural causes. Not for lies by Bush.

If you actually THINK about her situation. Not one minute goes by where she isn't thinking about her Son. Not one minute.

Think about that!

If you do you might realize that frankly it is amazing she hasn't gone all Jihad and strapped on a backpack for Bush's ass! But that would be immature. It would be stupid and childish to protest violence with more violence.

For those of you who think that her peaceful protest was immature. Who said the same about the peaceful civil rights protests in the 1960's? Cindy is not immature.

So you say, this is all for attention. I say this is so she can fucking live with herself.

I feel sorry for her. Leave her be. If I were President I would make laws giving all mothers of dead soldiers special rights. At the very least I would give them the same diplomatic immunity that the foreign political assholes in the UN enjoy.

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1. Slap!

[Just Me]

2. WHO THE FUCK DID NOT SUPPORT CINDY?!?!?!?!!!!!!

NAME THEM!!!!!!!

[Mr_Spock]

27. lmao!

:rofl:

[Webster Green]

3. Cindy is ahead of the curve....it's past time for civil disobedience...

And we're going to have to do a lot more than just block sidewalks, in order to get our country back.

We need thousands of people to take her place when she gets arrested for speaking truth to power.

[Cha]

5. Cindy Sheehan Is "ahead

of the CURVE"! And "IT'S WAAAAY PAST TIME FOR CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE"!!

[sendero]

65. Exactly my friend..

.... and it's probably gonna hafta come to exactly that.

Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats running this country are "getting" it.

Eventually, we'll have to "help" them.

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[tuvor]

6. Welcome to DU!

:)

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

7. However in the case of Iraq

they have fought for a lie-I don't disrespect any soldier, but I do disrespect the chickenhawks who lied their way into war.

Edited to add: I don't know that the President did it, but during WWII, mothers who lost sons in battle hung Gold Stars in their windows, and were treated with great respect and sympathy from those around them, as the nation recognized the sacrifice they made.

[bvar22]

8. Unitary Executive

The President can do what ever he wants:
Break Laws,
or ,in effect, write new ones (e.g. the "new" rules governing the treatment of "illegal combatants".)

[burythehatchet]

9. Lets see if you can make it to 10

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

12. I am betting not.

:hello:

[MelissaB]

14. Only with these hit and run posts.

:)

[koopie57]

35. I had to step away from the computer so he could make it to 5 ...

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

10. No one is fighting for our rights right now

I think you missed the point. Mommies who's children die in wars based on lies should maybe be excused silly enforcement exercises.

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[WannaJumpMyScooter]

15. Delivering a petition (which I signed, BTW) to the

US UN mission is wrong?

[MelissaB]

16. What are her "wrongs"?

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[MelissaB]

21. When? Where?

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

22. She has embarassed the empire

don't ya know/

[roguevalley]

81. is this missing tombstoned git that did this the other day? What a

tool. When does the disobedience begin? When there are only two of us left?

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

84. I don't know. Did he make 10?`

Last I saw he had 9

[Mr_Spock]

38. lol - yeah - peaceful gathering is illegal

if you're an idiot moron Freeper!! :rofl:

[proud2BlibKansan]

47. What law?

It's against the law to stand on a sidewalk? Man when Guiliani said he was cleaning up crime in New York, I guess he meant business. Can't have none of them sidewalk standers hanging around the Big Apple. :rofl:

[Webster Green]

49. Laws don't matter anymore.....didn't you get the memo?

If our so-called "leader" can break the law, then why shouldn't we follow?

Is your fucking head exploding yet?

[populistdriven]

51. Yet the Diplomats in the UN are immune from the same law, how ironic

[WillyT]

78. Yeah... So Did Martin Luther King Jr.

Over and over, until the fucking laws were changed.

You got a problem with that?

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

- Thomas Jefferson

You aren't for tyranny, and against our founding fathers are you???

:shrug:

[sendero]

68. Oh yeah..

... lying a country into war is pretty much the same level of infraction as blocking a sidewalk.

You fucking moron.

[SeaBob]

25. rights.

What rights? this administration and others have eroded them over time

[meganmonkey]

11. Maybe you should tell the President he can't make laws

because he sure acts like he can...he breaks them all the time...hmmm..

Welcome to DU, btw. Have fun!

[Zomby Woof]

17. Presidents sign bills into law

Even a fake president like your boy Bush.

Civics 101. Presidents can introduce bills, as do the members of Congress. Congress can make laws only if they have the supermajority necessary to override a presidential veto. Otherwise, they have to rely on the president to MAKE BILLS BECOME LAW.

In reply to:
By the way, are you aware that the President can't make laws? FYI, that is the job of the legislative branch. I guess it's a good thing you aren't President.

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[MissB]

26. I'm taking bets.

10 posts.

[MelissaB]

28. I can't stay to find out.

Gotta get the kids in bed. This could be fun. ;)

[populistdriven]

43. Freepers do not enjoy Diplomatic Immunity at DU :)

[proud2BlibKansan]

58. ROFLMAO

Don't tell him that. We want him to tell us how he REALLY feels. :rofl:

[haydukelives]

52. Pass the popcorn

[populistdriven]

56. I bet a $5 bill with the words "Impeach Bush" written on it - 12 posts

[proud2BlibKansan]

61. You are on!!

I just said 12 but I will go up to 13 just to take this bet.

:popcorn:

[populistdriven]

80. So who said 10 posts? I owe them a 5 with my anti bush scrawl on it

If no one claims it I am donating it to DU at midnight :)

[populistdriven]

83. too late DU got it :P

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

30. oh boy... that should do it

anyone else hit the lower left corner on that one?

[MissB]

31. What? Retarded wasn't enough?

Mods must be having a coffee break. :toast:

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

34. Nah, retarded could slide

...

[Viva_La_Revolution]

44. Don't please. It's fun to toy with them.

:evilgrin:

[proud2BlibKansan]

63. I did! I did!

Do I win something??

[Mr_Spock]

32. NSA spying - Dumbya made his own law - or broke existing law

take your pick :rofl:

GOTCHA FREEPER!!

[Rex]

39. Sounds like you're taking this personally.

Haha

[Viva_La_Revolution]

40. We've had a rash of you guys today

Always happens when you guys get scared. What's worrying you? His poll #'s?
all the Repugs calling in to CSPAN saying they've finally figured out he's been lying to them?

Maybe you didn't get your Kool-aid fix today?

[meganmonkey]

46. What about the president's signing statements?

Bush has added signing statments to more bills than any other president. For example, when the Senate passed the torture ban, and Bush signed the law, he added a statement that essentially means he only has to obey the law when he feels like it.

How do you feel about that?

[proud2BlibKansan]

53. I'm betting on 12 posts

You are really coming in with a bang here.

"Idiot"!! LOL Did you hear that on the playground today?

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[Zomby Woof]

66. Article 1, Section 7

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

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[sendero]

72. You..

... are an idiot, and we don't like idiots here.

Go away.

[MissB]

20. How rude.

Oh, and welcome to DU! Enjoy your stay.

[Rex]

23. The 'president' sent good men and women to die in vain.

Have a nice stay. :evilgrin:

[populistdriven]

33. All presidents have unlimited power starting with Bush

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[WannaJumpMyScooter]

59. You are the butthead who said you would

make a law, IIRC.

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[proud2BlibKansan]

36. Wow first post and you call someone retarded?

And then post some pro war crap? LOL enjoy your brief stay here. :hi:

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[MissB]

45. I'm sure you read the rules when you signed up.

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[MissB]

57. Wow. Clueless, aren't you.

Break the rules, get the boot.

[Catherine Vincent]

60. Bye!

[proud2BlibKansan]

70. Sounds like you forgot to read the rules Buddy

You can't spout the RW talking points here. And as a newbie, you are committing a slow suicide. B-Bye!!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

71. I thought you were leaving?

why 3 more posts?

[MissB]

73. Don't mind 'em. He is pretty slow

if you know what I mean. ;)

[meganmonkey]

76. He really degenerated quickly

I'm just glad I saw it all go down. It's such a bummer to come on a thread like this and just see all the deleted messages. }(

[cali]

41. It's incredibly disrespectful to come here

and address the OP in that manner. Look, I realiize that wingnuts like to come to DU and sneer and then return to the Totalitarian State Of Wingnuttia to recount their brave deeds, and declare how stupid DUers are. Why not try engaging in actual discourse during your brief stay.

Oddly enough, I agree with you. I definitely don't think that the mother of a soldier killed in war should get any kind of preferential treatment. Nor do I agree with the OP about several other things in his/her post. That's neither here nor there, what I want to know, is how can you possibly defend the criminal ineptitude of the admin?

[proud2BlibKansan]

74. "The Totalitarian State Of Wingnuttia" !!!!!

Now that is too funny.

[Just Me]

48. LOL!!!! OMFG!!!! Who the FUCK is benefitting from this war?

Americans? Iraqis? You? Me?

GET OUTTA HERE!!!! :rofl:

It's a damned good thing YOU AREN'T PRESIDENT because you haven't a fucking CLUE what is happening,...to you or your country or other nations, at YOUR expense.

Good GAWD!!! I pray O8) you do some reading and study OF FACTS,...and gain some sense of your humanity and grow a bit of wisdom.

Good luck,...and GOOD NIGHT!!!!

[NVMojo]

18. I was thinking today how brave Cindy is ...Bless her ...

[Hissyspit]

29. Classic passive resistance techniques - I support her fully...

In case her detractors haven't noticed, the troops are still in Iraq and Bush is still in the White House. Of course she is trying to get attention.

[PhilipShore]

50. She is not a professional protester

I am not all that familiar with the "peace mom" but she is not a professional protestor, and the anti-Vietnam war protestors whom "organized," the protest to end the Vietnam war were professionals.

[lonestarnot]

55. Cindy is continuing to fight the good fight, despite neigh sayers and I

fucking commend her. She deserves a bulldog metal for tenacity! I love you Cindy! Casey and I are so proud of you we're beaming!

[koopie57]

69. Yep

it is her son, her pain and her fight .... atta girl. IMHO we can choose to support her or ignore her, but to criticize her or belittle her is not acceptable.

[lonestarnot]

75. zero fucking tolerance for either!

[LittleClarkie]

77. Is it possible to support her without completely agreeing with her?

That's where I'm at.

[midnight]

79. We support Cindy!!!!!!

Cindy is doing what so many do not have the strength, courage, time, .....choose your excuse. Who cares if this women smiles as they arrest her. She is the voice that her son would want to be voiced. He gives her this strength. As long as Cindy is going, we will be praying for her safety. Bless you Cindy and all those who give you another day to show America what needs to be said.

Peace from another mother....

[jarnocan]

82. I support her , the other Gold Star families and code pink etc.

They are trying to help US.
MOst people could not handle the SICK, hateful, crap they thow at her. She even gets death threats http://www.frappr.com/?a=myfrappr I was able to clean most of it up.http://www.frappr.com/westandwithcindysheehangoldstarmothersandothersforpeace but not all.