THIS is the most terrifying article I have ever read!

[RagingInMiami]

It still sends shivers down my spine.



Bush Wins Second Term
Kerry Concedes Defeat; Both Speak of Need for Unity

By Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, November 4, 2004; Page A01

An elated President Bush claimed a reelection victory yesterday after a tumultuous night of vote counting and a gracious concession by challenger John F. Kerry, and he pledged that he would seek to earn the trust of those who did not back him during the long, contentious campaign.

In an explicit appeal to those Americans who voted for Kerry, Bush said: "To make this nation stronger and better, I will need your support, and I will work to earn it. I will do all I can do to deserve your trust. A new term is a new opportunity to reach out to the whole nation."

Bush spoke to jubilant supporters at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington, where he had planned to go for a pre-dawn victory speech after he had won Florida's 27 electoral votes and appeared to have locked up Ohio's 20 votes. He postponed that event when Kerry declined to concede the election overnight and signaled a possible fight over the vote totals in Ohio.

But an hour before Bush's appearance, an emotional Kerry took the stage at Boston's historic Faneuil Hall to offer Bush his congratulations and a formal concession. The Massachusetts senator had called Bush earlier to convey the same message privately. Kerry snuffed out the hopes of many Democrats who were eager to keep the fight for the White House alive by declaring, "We cannot win this election."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19510-2004Nov2.html

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. "Both Speak of Need for Unity"

That day was one of the worst in my life.

[FreedomAngel82]

10. Me too

I cried for two days. :cry:

[babylonsister]

2. The blivet didn't win shit. Did you see him the night of? Diebold

won, not dimson.

[libhill]

3. There was something fishy

about Kerry. He conceded way to damned fast.

[Erika]

4. There was no proof otherwise n/t

[RagingInMiami]

5. There was a lot of proof

Some counties in Ohio had more votes cast for bush than actual voters.

[tblue]

6. John Kerry put the nail in the coffin of democracy

when he conceded before every vote was counted. He wanted to preserve his 'political viability,' his chances of getting elected President next time. He was only fooling himself. He will never get the nomination again.

Does he really believe there'll be a fair vote NEXT TIME?

Kerry's concession made it impossible for us to insist on an investigation into irregularities in Ohio and other states. There's no overstating what a blunder this was, and a slap in the face to all of us who wanted to prove he had in fact received more votes. Unforgivable! His ambition was more important than our democracy.

Kerry is as guilty as George Bush is for squandering our democracy and for everything that happened as a result of that stolen election.

[RagingInMiami]

8. Exactly

On one hand, we have John Edwards telling us they're not going to concede until every last vote is counted, then before you know it, Kerry concedes. I lost a lot of respect for him there and I hope he doesn't run again because of that.

[FreedomAngel82]

13. How do you know what went on behind the scenes?

Nobody knows except those who were there.

[libhill]

16. Can you say -

skulduggery?

[RagingInMiami]

18. Regardless of what went on behind the scenes

Kerry sold the American people out.

[FreedomAngel82]

12. And did you know this at that point in time?

[Peter Frank]

22. There was plenty of proof & many well founded concernes...

...when Kerry conceded.


Only one example -- Remember the thousands of people waiting in line for many hours to get to vote in urban areas of Ohio because of a shortage of voting machines ...while rural districts had more than enough?

Sorry. That alone should have given him pause.

[WildEyedLiberal]

23. Plenty of proof?

Where?

You realize "proof" means "something that can bring a conviction in a court of law" NOT "something that smells fishy to leftist bloggers," don't you?

I realize it's more fun for everyone in this thread to pile on Kerry than to actually think about election fraud in an intelligent manner, but that's still no excuse for the ignorance I see here. EMpty one-liners about "Kerry selling us out", blah blah blah.

So where's the smoking gun? The iron-clad proof?

It doesn't exist and it damn sure didn't on November 2nd. Kerry's concession was the slowest in history. Gore conceded the evening of the election, and only reversed when it became apparent he was within a hundred or so votes. Kerry was not within one hundred THOUSAND, so you need more than a "concern."

The ill-thought out kneejerk reactions to this subject frankly disgust me. Liberals should be able to think more logically about things than this and not react so emotionally without any fact or reason.

[Peter Frank]

25. Do some digging on your own...

Google keywords like ...ohio, election, fraud, deibold, disenfranchisement, Conyers (to name a few)

Or use your imagination. If you really want the truth you seek, find it yourself & prove me wrong.

[okieinpain]

7. wondered about him myself

[libhill]

9. I wonder sometimes

if "Skull and Bones" had something to do with it - Kerry and Bush are both members.

[FreedomAngel82]

14. You have your tinfoil hat on too tight there

I've researched "Skull and Bones" and there isn't enough information out there to prove they had anything to do with anything last time around. Of course they're a very tight lipped group so anybody knows. In Kay Griggs' interview she tells how there are two people who are in the group. One group is those who do the initiation. They get power, money etc. and go far in life. The other group doesn't do the initiation but still get in. They don't go to the top. You should try to find the film "The Skulls" that was released in 2000.

[libhill]

17. Possibly -

but, I don't believe in coincidence. And the history of this country since 11/22/63, is enough to turn any thinking person into a tinfoiler -

[RagingInMiami]

19. I doubt they'll post the information online

[okieinpain]

21. yes they are. and that is a very strange little group.

[FreedomAngel82]

11. He told why they conceded

They didn't have the votes. Of course now we know why.

[libhill]

15. Still -

as someone posted above, Edwards had promised not to concede until every vote had been counted. And after the Selection 2000 debacle, they should have known better than to take anything for granted.

[RagingInMiami]

20. If there is anything you should have learned during the last five years

take nothing at face value.

[DoYouEverWonder]

24. Where would we be now if Kerry had not conceded?

Not that I agree with his concession and at the time I was a basket case for at least three days after the election.

However, imagine if Kerry decided to go up against BushCo? Bush would still be in the WH and most of the news for the next year would have been about Kerry and the horrible DEMS who wouldn't give up. The M$M would have had a field day bashing sore loser Kerry.

By walking away, Kerry allowed the spotlight to shine on Bush instead. The M$M thrives on bad news and controversy and without DEMS to focus on, they eventually eat their own. That's where we're at now. The DEMS are laying low (not that I like that) and letting the GOP falls apart right before our very eyes.

I think things would be a lot different right now if Kerry fought the election results and not for the better for any of us. Instead of talking about the Plame investigation, the Abramoff investigation, the Delay investigation, the Noe investigation... we would still be talking about Kerry vs Bush.