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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:51 PM
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ACLU: How Patriot Act 2 Would Further Erode Basic Checks...POLICESTATE -->
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 12:53 PM by Dr. Jones
Now that the Patriot Act is once again being sent to Bush for signature into law, let's review the ramifications of this intrusive law on our civil liberties.


1.  Summary of Key Provisions

The Domestic Security Enhancement Act (also called "Patriot Act 2"):

* Further dismantles court review of surveillance, such as by terminating court-approved limits on police spying on religious and political activity (sec. 312), allowing the government to obtain credit records and library records secretly and without judicial oversight (secs. 126, 128, 129), and by allowing wiretaps without a court order for up to 15 days following a terrorist attack (sec. 103); 

* Allows government to operate in secret by authorizing secret arrests (sec. 201), and imposing severe restrictions on the release of information about the hazards to the community posed by chemical and other plants (sec. 202); 

* Further expands the reach of an already overbroad definition of terrorism so that organizations engaged in civil disobedience are at risk of government wiretapping (secs. 120, 121) asset seizure (secs. 428, 428), and their supporters could even risk losing their citizenship (sec. 501); 

* Gives foreign dictatorships the power to seek searches and seizures in the United States (sec. 321), and to extradite American citizens to face trial in foreign courts (sec. 322), even if the United States Senate has not approved a treaty with that government; and 

* Unfairly targets immigrants under the pretext of fighting terrorism by stripping even lawful immigrants of the right to a fair deportation hearing and stripping the federal courts of their power to correct unlawful actions by the immigration authorities (secs. 503, 504).

Source:http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/17346leg20030320.html

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:58 PM
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1. Oh goody
I wonder if Agent Mike is taking down all our information before he strips DUers of their citizenship and "disappears" us.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 05:14 PM
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13. You mean "Agent Muhammed" from the UAE, right?
Because it isn't always going to be American agents anymore.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:59 PM
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2. How could any Democrat support this.....
Bophal India anyone...

<snip?
Allows government to operate in secret by authorizing secret arrests (sec. 201), and imposing severe restrictions on the release of information about the hazards to the community posed by chemical and other plants (sec. 202);
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:02 PM
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3. Gotta look "tough on security" to keep the $$$ coming in.
The sure wouldn't want to upset defense industry or the voters trembling over the latest bogeyman.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:11 PM
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7. Im dumbfounded that only a fifth of Dems opposed....
Opposing this kind of shit is the only way to fight. I just dont get it and am left with the feeling that they really dont get it either. Being the lesser of two evils is no way to win a election. Maybe they just can't wait to have all that power at their own fingertips...

All I know is that it sickens me no end.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:40 PM
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12. Or they have sold out.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:17 PM
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4. Let's get back into power and delete this stupid law.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:22 PM
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5. Sec 321-322 will put every US intelligence agent at risk
for doing their job. Now instead of leaking Plame's name to the press, they'd turn her name over to a foreign power to be arrested, tortured then executed. It could all be done in secret. (sec 201)

It appears they can now declare the Democratic party a terrorist organization spy on us, arrest us, or strip us of our citizenship.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:24 PM
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6. Both of My Dem Senators voted for this POS!
They shall hear from me yet again. I wish I could contribute a negative amount.

-Hoot
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:16 PM
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8. WTF is this about...(mass Rendition ?)
* Gives foreign dictatorships the power to seek searches and seizures in the United States (sec. 321), and to extradite American citizens to face trial in foreign courts (sec. 322), even if the United States Senate has not approved a treaty with that government; and
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 05:15 PM
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14. This is just another step in the Dismantling of America.
It's a Brave New World.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:16 PM
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9. We are under the watchful eye or our Glorious Leader.
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 02:19 PM by alfredo


BTW, this poster, if downloaded to your desktop, will print out just fine on your printer.
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DrBloodmoney Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:21 PM
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10. Right now I'm committing...
... thoughtcrime
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 05:16 PM
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15. Me too....so MUCH thoughtcrime. DoublePlusGood!
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:26 PM
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11. "severe restrictions on the release of information about the hazards to
the community posed by chemical and other plants"

That'll teach them terrorists.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 05:17 PM
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16. LOL!
Ha Ha ha ha...h.....:cry: :cry: :cry:

We are screwed.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 05:38 PM
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17. The Neo Fascist Regime of Amerika is here at last.
"Don't worry. Be happy." If you can't find a job don't worry because Labor Camps will fit you right in.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 05:41 PM
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18. I better start studying tunnel construction....we ALL should.
It may just come in handy someday. I'm wish I were completely joking.
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