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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:07 PM
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Poll question: Can -- or would -- the Democrats roll back the Patriot Act?
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 08:08 PM by Armstead
Let's give the Congresional Democrats the benefit of the doubt and assume that they have gone with the excesses of teh Patriot Act because they are not in a position to block them.

And let's say that later this year, the equation changes and the Democrats take control of Congress.

Would they then be willing to seperate the wheat from the chaff and roll back the exessive intrusions of the Patrioit Act? And, in a more general sense, would they rescind the other intrusions into our privacy and freedom that have been going on?
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:34 PM
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1. The first thing a Democratic Congress should do is re-enact the
United States Code as it existed on January 19, 2001.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:19 PM
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3. I would tend to agree with that
Then they could correct any inefficiencies while avoiding the excesses and abuses.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:40 PM
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2. NO! Like Kerry and Edwards before them...they see it as a "loser Issue."
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 09:17 PM by KoKo01
Doesn't matter that Kerry/Edwards Won (since I think the election was stolen) the point is ...Dems will run on Repug Issues until the "crows come home to roost" because they are "sore afraid."
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:40 AM
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9. What are you talking about?
Kerry and others just introduced legislation to fix the stuff in the Patriot Act that they weren't able to get done in the reauthorization, S. 737. They do not consider it a loser issue at all. I swear I don't know where you come up with this stuff.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d109:1:./temp/~bdf4p9::|/bss/d109query.html|
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:01 AM
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4. No.
They may tweek it but it's a rulers' panacea.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:57 AM
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5. A ruled headache
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:42 AM
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6. These are the important questions
Many of us are losing faith. The more fascist legislation the support, the more difficult is is for me to believe that they will be willing to roll it back.
I propose a system of measurment to determine whether or not to develop strategies for "getting tough" with them. That does not necessarily mean absolute abandonment. It just means watching votes scoring, asking hard questions, and "speaking truth to power."
Here is my system to examine some votes. See where some of the votes are fitting into the "14 Characteristics" and look at how they are voting. Go from there.
They need a wake up call.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:47 AM
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7. Sure they could,
But they would have to contend with Bush's hitherto AWOL veto pen, which I'm sure would dusted off should the Dems take back Congress.

I doubt they would anyways, IIRC they passed it by pretty broad margins.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:33 AM
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8. They ALL agree it needs fixing
So why anybody would even post a poll about it is perplexing. None of them support repeal, I don't think anybody in the House even supports full repeal, not even Kucinich. It's been a bogus issue from the gate.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:42 AM
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10. They're goin' fascist.
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