How Does International Women's Day End Up Being All About How Men Feel?

[omega minimo]

:wtf: :rofl: :rofl:

No matter what, no matter what day, it's ALL about YOU.

[BattyDem]

1. ROFL!

:rofl:

[KitchenWitch]

2. Wait!

I need to pop me some :popcorn:

[Lars39]

3. All day wasn't it?

Kinda hard not to notice.
That thread showing the women from around the world celebrating was very nice. :)

[Sparkly]

4. International Women's Day? Wha?

:popcorn:

[omega minimo]

5. "Blog Against Lexuses"?

:shrug:

[niyad]

7. herewith, a brief herstory of IWD:

International Women's Day

International Women's Day (8 March) is an occasion marked by women's groups around the world. This date is also commemorated at the United Nations and is designated in many countries as a national holiday. When women on all continents, often divided by national boundaries and by ethnic, linguistic, cultural, economic and political differences, come together to celebrate their Day, they can look back to a tradition that represents at least nine decades of struggle for equality, justice, peace and development.


International Women's Day is the story of ordinary women as makers of history; it is rooted in the centuries-old struggle of women to participate in society on an equal footing with men. In ancient Greece, Lysistrata initiated a sexual strike against men in order to end war; during the French Revolution, Parisian women calling for "liberty, equality, fraternity" marched on Versailles to demand women's suffrage.


The idea of an International Women's Day first arose at the turn of the century, which in the industrialized world was a period of expansion and turbulence, booming population growth and radical ideologies. Following is a brief chronology of the most important events:

. . . . .
http://www.un.org/ecosocdev/geninfo/women/womday97.htm


International Women’s Day has retained much of the political focus and vitality that marked its inception over eighty years ago. The official holiday had its modest beginnings in 1908. That year in the U.S., the Socialist Party appointed a Women's National Committee to Campaign for the Suffrage. After meeting, this Committee recommended that the Socialist Party set aside a day every year to campaign to women's right to vote, a big step for socialists and one welcomed by women working for suffrage. (Socialists in the U.S. were not as rare in the early 1900s as they are today.)
With Pressure mounting to support women's rights, socialist parties began to respond affirmatively. On March 8, 1908, Branch No. 3 of the New York City Social Democratic Women's Society sponsored a mass meeting on women's rights. Then, in 1909, American socialist agreed to designate the last Sunday in February as National Women's Day; that year and the next, socialist women throughout the U.S. held mass meetings.

In May 1910, at the national Congress of the Socialist Party, the Women's National Commission recommended that the Last Sunday in February be recognized as International Women’s Day. In Copenhagen, at the Conference of Socialist Women that August, Luise Zietz proposed internationalizing the American Woman's Day. The dynamic German socialist leader and fighter for women's rights, Clara Zetkin, seconded the proposal, and it passed unanimously among the women as it did a few days later in the general International Socialist Congress. As so International Women’s Day was born.

The day had been named, but a date was never specified. Consequently, until 1917, International Women’s Day was celebrated on different days throughout the world. In the U.S., International Women’s Day continued to be celebrated in February. Internationally, the day provided an opportunity to highlight the movements for woman suffrage and peace.

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http://www.nwhp.org/events/iwd/iwd.html

[omega minimo]

10. That explains it

"International Women's Day is the story of ordinary women as makers of history; it is rooted in the centuries-old struggle of women to participate in society on an equal footing with men."

When we "struggle to participate on an equal footing" they think we're steppin on their toes. :eyes:

Thank you for that, niyad!

[bloom]

6. Now we're back to "International Men’s Year"

as Twisty said:

http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/03/08/going-out-on-a-limb-to-blog-against-sexism/


Or like you said - we never left.



It's so hard for white men to be victims. Those that want to have to work so hard at it. I guess I should cut them a break. ( or NOT :evilgrin: )

[omega minimo]

8. New Framing: White Male Privlege=2 many syllables n stuff

New Meme:



"Clueless"







:spray: aw gitta sensa humor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[leftstreet]

9. ...

:popcorn: :beer:

[omega minimo]

11. *

:rofl: :spray:

[leftstreet]

12. ^

:rofl:

Hey! I PMed you last night.
Bet you have it turned off?

[rman]

13. it doesn't

[omega minimo]

14. An awful lot of threads bouncing around would disagree with you

:shrug:

[omega minimo]

15. How does that make you feel?

:evilgrin:

[omega minimo]

16. *

[MissMarple]

17. They're sensitive, it hurts their feelings, and

puts their hormones out of wack. They get cranky. Got tissues? :eyes:

They are acting like Christian fundies at the Air Force Academy. If they can't impose their proselytizing on the cadets, they are being discriminated against. What whiney babies.

But the guy who says he shouldn't be held responsible for supporting a child from an unintended pregnancy...hummm. That almost sounds like a pro choice argument. It may have some credibility. When people have sex, a pregnancy may happen. Like in Legally Blond when Reece Witherspoon is arguing against a guy's claim about denying a girl's abortion resulting from a random sexual encounter. Does that mean that all masturbatory emissions are reckless abandonment? Now rape, that's a lot different. Can you imagine the social chaos that could result from giving rapists parental rights over a resulting pregnancy? Talk about a return to patriarchal Fundie Land.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

18. That Might Be A Tad Of An Exaggeration

International Women's Day is a major day of global celebration for the economic, political and social achievements of women (per wikipedia). I think it's great to celebrate it and the reasons for its existence are sound.

What I don't find in the definition, however, is any reference that declares it disrespectful or taboo for anyone else to hold any opinion or topic for discussion on anything else other than women's rights on that day. That would be a bit of an exaggeration. Furthermore, there has been no shortage of discussion of women's rights here lately, so claiming International Women's Day turned out to be all about how men feel is dishonest, misleading and false on its face.

If posting that notion is what makes you feel better though, than have at it. No biggie. :)

[TahitiNut]

19. I dunno. Why do you start yet another thread ...

... making "How Men Feel" the subject? Is it at all possible that some or many females 'celebrated' IWD by making men the topic? Gosh! Go figure! Maybe next year DU can celebrate by suspending all men's access privileges! I suspect that's an idea some here might get behind.

:rofl:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

20. LOL

Now that was a heck of a point!

:applause:

[MissMarple]

21. It's not men per se, it's the patriarchal social structure.

It's a problem for all of us, male and female. In one way or another we all fall victim. And one can't just drag it into the bathtub and drown it. It takes a long time to change societal patterns. And how we view parentage, parental rights, and the disposition of property are all at the roots of the problem.

:shrug: What can I say. It's complicated and will be so for some time to come. Unless the fundies win, that is.

[TahitiNut]

22. While I largely and heartily agree ...

... I'd be just as likely to call it 'parentalism' as 'paternalism' ... since it's about imposing an authoritarian rule over the 'subjects' (children) by the 'rulers' (parents) almost irrespective of gender. Each perversion is infused with the other, methinks.

[MissMarple]

23. Good point. Especially from the children's point of view.

And patriarchy is more about power and control of capital than control of children. For the fundies, of course, it does have that control and power over one's family aspect. First Dad, then Mom, then the kiddies down there somewhere. Dreck. Children deserve respect, nurturing, and a safe environment in which to grow and explore while learning to respect and help others. This "ownership" thing is somewhat overrated. Some people should never have children. IMHO

Complicated issues. But the Constitution focuses primarily on individuals not family units. Individual rights are an integral part of our political culture. At least it was so originally.

[pitohui]

24. because everything is all abt how men feel

cynical much? why yes i am