Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Fake Cop Pulls Over Real Cops, Has Illegal Guns

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:38 AM
Original message
Fake Cop Pulls Over Real Cops, Has Illegal Guns
Whaddaya want to bet this guy is a Limbaugh listener?

"A 34-year-old bail bondsman and grocery store security guard was charged in Anne Arundel County with impersonating an officer after an investigation that began when he allegedly used emergency lights to pull over another vehicle that contained two real policemen.
Karl Glenn Salenieks of the 1900 block of Cavalier Circle in Crofton also was charged with illegal possession of firearms by a convicted felon after police reportedly uncovered an arsenal of weapons -- including semiautomatic guns -- in his home.
Anne Arundel County police said they're looking for other drivers who might have been illegally pulled over by Salenieks, who police say also owned two police badges, a bulletproof vest and other law enforcement equipment.
"I'm hoping to get people to come forward so we can find out the extent of what he's been doing," said Detective Thomas P. Middleton, who investigated and arrested Salenieks. "He's pretending to be a police officer, and that scares me; that -- coupled with the arsenal that he had -- scares me." "

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/crime/bal-arrest0307,0,7626352.story?coll=bal-local-headlines
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:44 AM
Response to Original message
1. I wonder if he bailed himself out...
"Salenieks was charged with 12 offenses: five counts of impersonating a police officer, six weapons charges and one charge of possessing bulletproof armor. Bail was set at $200,000, and Salenieks was released Monday on bond, according to court documents."

damn freepers

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. Its illegal to have bulletproof armor? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. It's illegal for a felon to posses bulletproof armor/vests.
To the best of my knowledge, there are no laws prohibiting a non-felon from possession.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. Oh, I see. Are friends of Cheney allowed to have armor,
even though they are felons? ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. Depends... some felons are treated better than other felons.
From the 1968 Gun Control Act...

"20) The term "crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year" does not include --

(A) any Federal or State offenses pertaining to antitrust violations, unfair trade practices, restraints of trade, or other similar offenses relating to the regulation of business practices, or..."

http://www.atf.gov/pub/fire-explo_pub/gca.htm



§ 931. Prohibition on purchase, ownership, or possession of body armor by violent felons
Release date: 2005-08-03

(a) In General.— Except as provided in subsection (b), it shall be unlawful for a person to purchase, own, or possess body armor, if that person has been convicted of a felony that is—
(1) a crime of violence (as defined in section 16); or
(2) an offense under State law that would constitute a crime of violence under paragraph (1) if it occurred within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
(b) Affirmative Defense.—
(1) In general.— It shall be an affirmative defense under this section that—
(A) the defendant obtained prior written certification from his or her employer that the defendant’s purchase, use, or possession of body armor was necessary for the safe performance of lawful business activity; and
(B) the use and possession by the defendant were limited to the course of such performance.
(2) Employer.— In this subsection, the term “employer” means any other individual employed by the defendant’s business that supervises defendant’s activity. If that defendant has no supervisor, prior written certification is acceptable from any other employee of the business.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000931----000-.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #1
9. And possession of 6 firearms is defined as having an "arsenel"...
:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Yup...
And it's a nice look into the sort of specimen that creams his jeans over guns. Bet he could repeat ever word of rubbish that gets bandied about down in the gungeon by the trigger happy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. WTF!
:hug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:46 AM
Response to Original message
2. If things can go wrong...sooner or later...it will, Murphys Law
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:46 AM
Response to Original message
3. great job guys, you might have just prevented the next sniper killer
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. Agreed....
Wonder how he got hold of those guns?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #5
18. Obviously he got them illegally
A convicted felon cannot legally possess a gun in Maryland.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. Do you think the NRA faery left them under a cabbage leaf?
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 12:41 PM by MrBenchley
Yeah, those gun nuts are such sticklers for laws...(snicker)

Maybe he got them from this asswipe; an NRA board member who "lost" hundreds of guns....

"Federal agents revoked the firearms license yesterday of a prominent Baltimore County gun shop owned by a National Rifle Association board member, pointing to his repeated failure to account for hundreds of guns listed in his inventory since 1997.
The license seizure came one day after a federal judge dismissed a civil lawsuit filed by Valley Gun of Parkville. Owner Sanford Abrams sued to stop the federal government from taking his license to sell firearms at the store, which has been in operation since 1954.
Abrams is vice president of the Maryland Licensed Firearms Dealers Association and a board member of the National Rifle Association, a leading guns-rights lobbying group. He was elected last year to another three-year term."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-md.guns25feb25,0,3075526.story?coll=bal-local-headlines
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. No
Do you think the NRA faery left them under a cabbage leaf?

I think he bought them from another criminal on the black market. Or he went to another state, bought them from another criminal on the black market, then smuggled them into Maryland.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. Or he bought them from that NRA board member
Or he went into a neighboring state and bought them at a gun show....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. I'm sure you are aware either would be illegal
For both the buyer and the seller.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. I'm sure gun loonies put their fetish objects above such trivial concerns
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. Anyone who does that is a criminal
:nuke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Call me Deacon Blues Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:54 AM
Response to Original message
7. That happened to a guy I used to know . . .
Had a few screws loose. Wanted to be a cop so bad he couldn't stand it, so he went out an bought the same model & make car the local police used. Fitted it with a cage, took off the back seat door handles, and put blue lights under the front grille. Told us he was an undercover cop, but we all knew he was just crazy. THEN, he managed to get a real book of blank traffic tickets and started pulling people over. He pulled over an off-duty cop & got busted. Sad but hilarious. That was 25 years ago. I hear he's a rural deputy somewhere in Kentucky these days. Strange but true.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. Some weird folks out there....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:01 PM
Response to Original message
10. This is just too funny!! Serves him right!! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:19 PM
Response to Original message
16. We made our wannbes night watchman
In the little town I lived in a lifetime ago, mostly they just sat in their cars while the kids dragraced down main street. One of them wrote me a ticket once, I tore it up and threw it back, never heard a damn thing about it.
I wonder if this guy was popping gum like a maniac and squirting in his shorts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #16
21. LOL!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:51 PM
Response to Original message
22. A contender for O'bermann's Countdown! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. LOL, I can see that go-to-commercial-break paper fling now...
what a moran!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:51 PM
Response to Original message
29. "including semiautomatic guns"
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 08:54 PM by benEzra
Criminals posing as police are one of the most worrisome scenarios I can think of, but this line in the news report was downright amusing:

an arsenal of weapons -- including semiautomatic guns

GASP! Semiautomatic guns!

Imagine that, a guy impersonating a police officer might actually have illegally obtained a pistol (shock, horror). I mean, your average police impersonator probably carries a 1769 Brown Bess flintlock musket, right? Surely not a police style sidearm?



I'm not sure what the reporter who authored the article thinks "semiautomatic" means, but this is a "semiautomatic gun":



(Smith & Wesson 3913 LadySmith)



BTW, when we lived in Florida, there was a guy who had somehow obtained a blue light like unmarked police cars use, and would pull over unsuspecting women at night in isolated areas, pull them out of the car, and rape them. Our local law enforcement tried to get the word out that you do NOT have to stop in an isolated area if you are unsure whether the stop is legitimate; you can put on your hazards or whatever and drive to a safer area to pull over, and you cannot be charged with illegal evading under those circumstances.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. Here comes round 2
In 1... 2... 3... 4...


:popcorn:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. Somethings missing from the equation though.
I can't quite put my finger on it.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. lol
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:38 PM
Response to Original message
34. Dudes like this are often serial killer/rapist types. I see from the
article that the cops pulled over were men, but still... I'd think a thorough search of the dude's property, vehicles, etc. would be in order.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 01:24 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC