Freepers on woman getting fired for having an Air America bumper sticker..

[tjwash]

There is an article out in the NC times here in San Diego about a woman who was slandered by her boss and fired for having an Air America bumper sticker on her car. Why did I dare to even think that the freeps would not think this is OK, or against basic freedom of speech and expression? Yes, those freepers. The ones who like to call themselves "strict constitutionalists." They don't even see irony of how this could be turned and used on them for their "rush is right" bumper stickers.

Well, at least we know who comprises the 39% that still approve Bush in the polls now.

Now:

Just let the love and tolerance wash all over you. I actually cherry picked the really nice ones for everyone to see the black hearts of the conservatives absolutely bared. It didn't take too long to even do THAT actually. Anonymity on the web does that you know...

after seeing the sticker, the employer commented that the woman could be a member of al-Qaida.

"...COULD be"...?!? :)
2 posted on 03/09/2006 1:51:55 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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3 posted on 03/09/2006 1:52:46 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
California is an 'at will' state I believe. This guy could fire her because he doesn't like her hairstyle and be perfectly within his rights.

L
4 posted on 03/09/2006 1:53:43 AM PST by Lurker (Cuz I got one hand in my pocket and the other one is slapping a hippy.)
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To: Preachin'
They call themselves progressives because it has less syllables than flaming communist.
5 posted on 03/09/2006 1:54:57 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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6 posted on 03/09/2006 1:56:47 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I'd fire the boss for not canning her a lot earlier.


8 posted on 03/09/2006 2:00:50 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Preachin'

Good start, Now, how about the the people with Kerry -Edwards stickers ?


9 posted on 03/09/2006 2:10:56 AM PST by abovethefray
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To: Preachin'

They also call it 'Air America' instead of 'Air Anti-America'.

12 posted on 03/09/2006 2:29:12 AM PST by opinionator
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To: Lurker

California is an 'at will' state I believe. This guy could fire her because he doesn't like her hairstyle and be perfectly within his rights.

L<<

AirHeads America has a show called "Morning Sedition" Mike Malloy winks at his audience when he says he is not "really" asking his audience to rise up and overthrow the government by using force.

If the woman is fired for having irresponsible points of view, and expressing them to clients in the private sector, she should pay lawyer fees.

If she worked for the government, leg irons for a seditionist?

Am I wrong here guys and gals?

DK


17 posted on 03/09/2006 3:17:29 AM PST by Dark Knight
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

He should have "found cause"

then let her go.



23 posted on 03/09/2006 3:56:35 AM PST by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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To: ketelone

Maybe there more to the story, because its not making much sense at present.

26 posted on 03/09/2006 4:08:33 AM PST by ketelone
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Another case where it's all she-said, she said, and we'll never know the full truth.

27 posted on 03/09/2006 4:46:30 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Such a sticker wouldn't cause me to fire someone

It would cause me to find another reason to fire her.

Unfair? I don't care. I wouldn't want someone like that working for me.
28 posted on 03/09/2006 4:54:22 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I wonder what NPR would do if a new employee showed up to work carrying Rush Limbaugh's book, "The Way Things Ought To Be."

29 posted on 03/09/2006 4:59:13 AM PST by Mr. Brightside (I know what I like.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Fath could have planned to fire her at the meeting before he saw her sticker...

30 posted on 03/09/2006 5:03:51 AM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: Lurker

How could CA be an "at will" state when the article claims their labor code prohibits directing political activity. Which is the rule and which is the expeption?


31 posted on 03/09/2006 5:06:08 AM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

There is NO law against political discrimination. No one should employ a liberal Democrat. That fact alone indicates a character flaw and lack of judgement.


32 posted on 03/09/2006 5:08:19 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

She's lying for the $$$.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


33 posted on 03/09/2006 5:10:55 AM PST by bray (Proud Bushbot for 6 years going on 8!)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

He may or may not be wrong, but it should be within his rights to hire or fire someone because he doesn't like their politics. Idiot liberals are not yet a protected class of citizen (unless elected to Congress).

34 posted on 03/09/2006 5:24:20 AM PST by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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[DS1]

1. When do we get to truck them off into the woods and shoot them?

That's all I want/need to know

[MindPilot]

8. Truck them off to the woods? Hell no!

I don't want that toxic waste in my forest!

I'm struck by how the normally not-so-far-right NC Times refers the station as "left-wing Air America". I wonder if they would call KSDO the local affiliate of "right-wing EIB". Of course not; that's just radio.

[SofaKingLiberal]

13. How about we just kick them out of a plane over Iraq.

With or without parachutes, it makes no difference to me.

[mntleo2]

36. Just Don't Forget The Parachute and Gun!

This way they can practice what they preach ~ and experience the consequences of the right to bear arms!

Cat In Seattle

[soothsayer]

16. Let's just send them hunting with that drunken boob cheney

They can all shoot each other in a circular firing squad.

[dogday]

2. This post scares the crap out of me....

There is NO law against political discrimination. No one should employ a liberal Democrat. That fact alone indicates a character flaw and lack of judgement."

Does a human being, a person really feel like this for his fellow man?

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. Same here

The suppression and oppression of individuals based solely on political party affiliation needs to be outlawed.

From the bits and pieces that get posted here at DU, not to mention polemic prostitutes like Coulter, Freepers are itching for nothing short of a Democratic/Liberal holocaust. :(

[tjwash]

15. I'm telling you, the anonymity of the internet does that

If there are no real repercussions, people tend to say what they actually think, as repugnant and nasty as it sometimes is.

[WhiteTara]

19. see the above posts for your answer

:evilgrin:

[FreedomAngel82]

33. So I guess than the same would go for

freepers not being hired by someone for their political beliefs right?

[Mr_Spock]

37. Makes me have very bad feelings about the RW stickered cars

I'm not one to back away from a fight - I wonder if they realize the consequences of their actions? I hope none of them value anything they place on public roads etc...

[otohara]

3. Hippy???

4 posted on 03/09/2006 1:53:43 AM PST by Lurker (Cuz I got one hand in my pocket and the other one is slapping a hippy.)
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That's Hippie you moran -

[AndyA]

4. These people really do need to die and get out of the gene pool...n/m

[Mythsaje]

5. That the last one has the nerve to use

the line from a Rush song as a tagline really chaps my hide.

[TechBear_Seattle]

6. The question to post is...

Would it be just as acceptable if you were fired because of your "Rush is Right" bumpersticker? Why or why not?

I love watching heads explode :loveya:

[bluerum]

7. Every dog has his day. eom

[sakabatou]

10. I suppose this could go down in fact that Freepers aren't human

[warrens]

11. Here are some of their purported "values"

Associates: Value all ASM Associates and provide a workplace environment based upon dignity, trust, and respect.
Continuous Development: Provide an environment for learning, development, and the fulfillment of personal ambitions and professional goals.
Diversity: Promote diversity of thought and approach while embracing team work and organizational unity.
Integrity: Establish and achieve the highest levels of integrity in all business and personal interactions

http://www.asmnet.com/command/career_job_opp_list.cfm?fullPart=0&state=CA

[Touchdown]

17. They use "associates" which means they value no one.

It's the framing.

Employee means, one who belongs. A contributer to something bigger than she is. Part of family of the company.

An associate? One we just "associate with". Someone to keep at a distance. One we know, but will not welcome into the fold, since we only need their labor temorarily.

That term is one of my biggest pet peeves! The other is "Human Resources". I am not a resource, like raw steel or coal. I am a thinking, contributing person.

Oh' on the freepers? Perfect reason for abortion, right there.

[stepnw1f]

12. The Joke is Really on Them

They still believe their perception is mainstream... they are extremely off the mark. By the time they realize this, they will already have been ostracized from society and blamed for everything going on around them. And they deserve it...

Once the accuser, now the rightfully accused. The day of reckoing is already here, even if it isn't being shouted from every radio and TV. These people are nothing but media brainwashed fools.

[bliss_eternal]

44. I agree...

I've noticed on other sites I've visited,(not political websites) that they seem more apt these days to state their political affiliation. (i.e. My name is blank, I live in CA and I'm a Republican). This is interesting to me, as it usually is in the context of people introducing themselves--usually they are the only ones sharing their political stance, which seems odd.

I feel in time this is going to come back to bite them in the ass.

For me it's kind of like the Lincoln quote, that I believe says something to the effect of, "...it is better to be silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."

[salin]

50. And directly to the story...

as the public turns on freeperlike issues - would they not be concerned if *their* bumperstickers/expression of political views suddenly put them in the "firing" (employment sense of he word) line?

[AX10]

14. Remember, Freepers also think that a houlocaust of "Non-Christians"..

is a "good idea". :puke:

[truebrit71]

18. Last time I checked CA is NOT an 'at will' state...

...but then why would we expect accuracy from a freeptard?

[Xithras]

31. California IS quasi at-will

California is not a "Right To Work" state, but that's an entirely different deal (RTW has to do with unions, AW has to do with job termination protections).

Legally, California is an At-Will state, but there are certain legal protections that give Calfornians more rights than most other At-Will states.

1) First, you cannot fire someone for legally protected activities. If you employer asks you to break the law, you refuse, and he fires you, you have a valid lawsuit against him. If he fires you because you're black, you have a valid lawsuit. If he fires you because you filed a workmans comp claim, you have a valid lawsuit. You ONLY have valid suits for these reasons because specific laws have been passed in this state protecting these types of things. There's no law requiring employers to hire people who listen to the radio, so this doesn't apply to the AA listener.

2) You can't fire a person in conflict with an existing contract. If the contract specifies terms of employment, the employer is bound to them...or you can sue them blind. Where this gets fun is that California ALSO recognizes implied contracts. If your employer creates the impression that he has an open and tolerant workplace, and the employer then fires you because you admit to being a Democrat, you can sue him because he has implied that certain working conditions would be provided. If, however, the boss makes it clear from Day 1 that non-Republican's aren't welcome, there's no case.

3) The Good Faith exception. Many people assume that the Good Faith exception removes California's At Will status, but it only offers protection in limited cirsumstances. It requires that employers give valid reasons for terminating employees, and that they cannot be terminated out of malice. You actually CAN fire people here just because you don't like their haircut, if you can prove that their haircut is disruptive to the workplace. In the case of the AA listener, the employer can simply argue that he has a bias against Democrats and didn't feel that he could maintain a working relationship with her anymore. Since bias against political affiliations isn't illegal, that would qualify as a valid reason for termination. As a business owner in California, I can't just walk in and fire my employees because I'm in a bad mood. I also can't fire people for fraudulent reasons (i.e., laying off the 54 year old employee with 30 years on the job to save money on retirement benefits). If I can find any non-illegal, non-fraudulent reasons to lay them off, however, it's entirely within my right to do so (for the record, I've only ever fired one employee and he completely deserved it).

[dweller]

20. "Which is the rule and which is the expeption?"

i don't know what it means, but i bet that hurts.

hell, thinking hurts for those cretins.
dp

[SmokingJacket]

21. They are NOT smart people. nt

[kevinbgoode]

22. I think that's a wonderful idea. . .

After all, one of the first things we should do when we take back Congress is pass a law requiring employers to fire anyone associated with Free Republic and any extremist rightwing organization.

The sword cuts both ways.

[xchrom]

23. just a small sampling of the millions

of dim fucks that exist out there.

how can anyone be as stupid as these tapeworms and not be locked up with the nuclear waste?

[tjwash]

26. Well, what can one expect from a site that has...

...a link on the top of it's home page to a site called "homosexual agenda" :wtf:

[xchrom]

28. you're right -- what can one expect.

[bliss_eternal]

45. wtf?

Do they really?!

Bunch of hateful bastards...

:puke:

[IdaBriggs]

24. Well, to be perfectly fair, I will probably be "subtly" double checking

the voting preferences of any future employees I may ever hire in the future (not likely, but it could happen). Anybody who tells me they voted for the Shrub twice won't be getting hired because that is one sure sign of an uninformed Moran.

I'll be subtle about it though -- wouldn't want to get in trouble with the law or anything. Maybe I'll sell them a bridge or two while I'm at it. Hmmm....There could be some good money to be had, because Freepers will obviously buy pretty much about any line of bull that is out there -- yet another reason to make sure they aren't employed by me! :)

:shrug:

And before any flames start, I don't want to work for any Freepers myself, and I'm in a position where I can enforce that edict, so if that means I'm not in a position to be treated like crap by a Scum Sucking Bush Supporter, I'm okay with that, too. I won't even buy pizza from what used to be my favorite place ever since I saw the picture of the "Bush Rally" with their ticket on the wall of the establishment!

[Mr_Spock]

38. I am with you on this

I will not go to certain restaurants based on knowing the owner is a RW moran.

I'll never forget the time one of my coworkers commented to me "how come all the stupid people here are Republicans" - I just winked & smiled. :rofl:

[bliss_eternal]

46. I don't spend my money in places that voted *....

I don't generally hang out with people that endorse that agenda either. What's wrong with your not wanting to work with people that would create a hostile work environment for you?

In this case, I would be inclined to think that turn about is fair play.

If they are endorsing not employing liberals, what's wrong with your wanting to make sure that a few have an income instead of an idiot. They don't need your job or help, right? Ultimately they are superior, so why would they need to take a job from one of us? Right?

[theHandpuppet]

25. To the knuckledragger who wrote this:

"They call themselves progressives because it has less syllables than flaming communist."

Actually, I call myself a progressive because I know when to use the word "less" and when to use the word "fewer". You may be a multisyllabic Freeper, but you're still an ignorant knuckledragger. Got words? Try learning the basics of the language before you count the syllables.

[xchrom]

27. lol -- brilliant!

the knuckle dragger hasn't a CLUE as to what you said -- which is even better.

[KyuzoGator]

29. Who cares? It's not like most Freepers could fire someone anyway.

McDonald's usually doesn't usually leave the HR decisions to the fry salters.

[NightOwwl]

30. Big bullies trying to overcome their lack of penis size.

Remember, a majority of Americans disagree with these wingnuts. Although they would like to think otherwise, they are in an ever dwindling minority. They are the loony fringe cases...not the other way around.

If you ever MUST speak to a freeper, don't let them forget it.

[FreedomAngel82]

32. Sick bastards

Yes they are good Germans.

[jumpoffdaplanet]

34. So freepers won't mind me firing someone who voted bush

Great!

[Mr_Spock]

39. What's good for the goose...

:D

[Blue Belle]

35. Makes me want to go out and put a second Kerry/Edwards sticker...

on my car!

Fucking Fascists!

[NoPasaran]

40. Do you need one?

PM me an address.

[Blue Belle]

41. Actually... I have a second one under a magnet on my fridge.

I'm set. Thanks though! :)

[Maat]

42. Here is the basis for the lawsuit ....

"The California labor code prohibits employers from controlling or directing the political activities of employees."

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/03/09/news/sandiego/20_24_273_8_06.txt .

Not sure if it will fly ... but that is what her lawyer has identified as the foundation of the suit.

And, as for Freepers ... I'm SO glad I'm not the parent of any of those nimrods! Disgraceful, heartless and ill-informed - the whole lot of them there!

[DanCa]

43. Why do they hate the first ammendment so much? (nt)

[Pushed To The Left]

47. It's time to ban "at will" employment!

This kind of garbage should not be legal anywhere. The car is her property, not the employer's. But, with at will employment, the employer has no accountability. Giving an employer absolute power over an employee like that is the opposite of freedom. I heard on the Ed Schultz show today that she is suing, and I hope she wins! I would love to see the ACLU get involved in this one. Last time I heard about something like this, a woman was fired for a Kerry sticker. John Kerry heard about it and got her a job at the DNC!

[ReadTomPaine]

48. Just another reason for Dem employers to fire Republican employees.

As if there weren't enough reasons.

[B Calm]

49. Well now we know how they feel about worker rights and wrongful

termination. Is it any wonder why republicans are considered SUCKUPS in the workplace?

[WoodrowFan]

51. once again freepers prove

once again freepers prove that they have not the slightest clue about what it means to live in a free country...