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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:06 PM
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The Simple Reason Why McCain Won't Get The Repub Nomination
He is not trusted by the power elite of the Republican party. That's why the love dim-witted, stupid Republicans because they will do as they are told. Reagan and Bush are cut from the same cloth. All the party elite has to do is get them to remember the talking points of the day while they go off on their merry military ventures (See Iran/Contra and Iraq).

They will never allow a president that can actually ask intelligent questions and tell them to "fuck off" every now and then to be the leader. Sure, McCain has done a lot of sucking up recently, but in the end, can they trust him? These people don't take any chances.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:07 PM
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1. George Allen will be the nominee.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:08 PM
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2. Bite your tongue.
It's bad enough that he governed here and is now a senator. I hope he doesn't run...he is as much an imbecile as Bush if not more so.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:09 PM
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4. Sorry, it's true.
McCain might as well be a Dem to the Republican base. Allen is one of them. He is a textbook Freeper.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:12 PM
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8. Not if he's defeated in November
He's going to have a much more difficult race now that Webb got in.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:18 PM
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13. Agreed. I think Webb will give him a run for his money.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:18 PM
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12. Nope, I don't agree with you at all on Allen. A Bush clone is not
going to be appealing to a majority of Americans. Beside, the moment he opens his mouth and tries to come to the point or answer a question, he will have lost.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:27 PM
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19. Yep. He's Textbook
Big, dumb, stupid, and willing to do as he is told.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:32 PM
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23. I think you're right (nt)
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:38 PM
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26. I think you may be right. My Dream Scenario is Allen
Allen's politics what the base of the GOP wants. The wuestion is whether or not the GOP will be so fed up with BushCo that they reject the insider label and go with yet another governor.

All we have to do is repeatedly touch on how much like Bush, Allen is. He is a idiot and would not carry Virginia if Warner is on the ticket.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:00 PM
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31. Allen vs. Clark
Clark wins hands down. If Allen is defeated this November, then Allen is done with.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:09 PM
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3. And he's CRAAAAZZZZY, with BASSSTARRD babies!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:10 PM
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5. I kind of agree
But not for the same conspiracy-ladin reasons. I suspect that they could work with McCain - he's certainly played ball on Iraq. Rather the base won't go for him. Conservative Pundits hate him (like Rushbo) and have spent the last 6 years whipping up their base into hating him.

Look at how successful Rush and his buddies were, after 5 years of whipping up hatred for muslims, in convincing the base that this ports deal was a good idea.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:41 PM
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27. He's going to get victimized the same way this ports deal did.
A victim of Bush propaganda...just as Republicans were told not to trust Arabs, they were told not to trust McCain.

They will vote against their best interests (McCain is easily the strongest candidate they could find) because of people like Rush and Hannity.

I think it's hilarious.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:11 PM
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6. I think he will be the nominee
If he comes out of Iowa and NH (and remember he did win NH by a huge margin in '00) he will steamroll it. He has made peace with the right wingers and embraced Bush (literally). He even has picked up powerful allies in SC. In the end they want to win in '08 and right now I think the only candidate the GOP has running in '08 who has even a remote possibility of winning is McCain.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:11 PM
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7. The religious right doesn't like him, either...
...no Repug can win nationally without 'em.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:13 PM
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9. McCain has a better chance of winning a general election
than the nomination because of his strengths with Independents and yes, democrats. But I don't discard that he will be the nominee either.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:20 PM
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15. Maybe. He seems vulnerable in all those southern primaries...
...against the more "born-again" types. But what do I know. This is such a long way off to try to predict. Besides, isn't McCain already pretty old? He'll be even older for 2008. Maybe 2000 was his only real chance.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:14 PM
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10. The SIMPLE reason?
Yours had too many words to be "simple."

The "simple" reason is because he is a whore and a freakin' nut job.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:20 PM
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14. In fact, that's going to be the bumper sticker. nt
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:15 PM
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11. Not to much to lose if he strays once in a while. They have already
achieved much of their agenda.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:22 PM
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16. The simple reason why McCain WILL get the nomination
The media loves him. They can build up whoever they want. Most people don't vote on issues, they vote for image. They vote for who they feel the most comfortable with. And an acquiescent media can do more good for a candidate than any PR or advertising campaign.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:23 PM
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29. The Media Was On His Side In 2000
How'd that work out for him?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:24 PM
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17. And he isn't trusted by the fundies either
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 02:25 PM by FreedomAngel82
He has been trying though.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:24 PM
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18. I thought it was the basic reason
that he is getting older, balder and thicker. He could survive one of these faults but I don't think he can over come all three. He will lose to a younger, thinner person with more hair.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:28 PM
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20. He's short, too...
...you need to be at least 5'10" to be president. ;-)
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:30 PM
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21. And he "fathered an illegitimate black child" (nt)
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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:31 PM
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22. It's not the elite

Republicans that will keep McCain from the nomination. They would love to have him as the nominee. He's "electable". What he isn't is "nominatable". He will never get the Republican nomination because the rank-and-file Repukes just can't stand him. Too liberal for them. They feel about McCain much the same way that Democrats feel about Lieberman.

They may be dim-witted, or even stupid, but such minds as they have are their own, and they will never give the nomination to McCain.

So, if we can avoid Hillary, Kerry, and Gore, we might have a real shot at the White House in '08. For my money Clark is the only candidate that can win for the Dems.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:32 PM
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24. I dunno, McCain's given Bush too many big wet sloppy ones. . .
in the past.

Even the most rock-ribbed Repuke can't be too happy with that.

:smoke:
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:33 PM
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25. I agree . Hes a lone ranger
Not good when youre dealing with a party that has great discipline with staying on point.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:53 PM
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28. he seems to be able to kiss *'s ass as required, so no problemo
from what I can see if I were making the call for the Repubs. I guess I'm having trouble seeing where McCain has been the rebel and telling anyone to f-ck off -- wasn't he one of the Keating five in the S&L scandal?
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:26 PM
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30. The Power Elite of the Republican Party Does Not Take Chances
Esp. when they have a better alternative in George Allen. Allen will do what he's told. McCain may or may not. That's the key difference. For example, McCain didn't vote for Bush's tax cuts. They don't trust him.
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