Senate floor cloture vote...THREAD 2

[in_cog_ni_to]

Thread one:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x616341

[Coexist]

1. Holy cow! What a day to run errands..

hello all! Glad DU is here to keep me up to the minute.

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. Some company got the ports deal from Dubai, but we

don't know which company yet. HALLIBURTON?

[Coexist]

3. Vote in: MOTION NOT AGREED TO

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[Coexist]

4. Immediate motion by Frist to reconsider the vote.

[Renew Deal]

11. What motion? Cloture?

American company? Dubai?

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. yup...cloture vote .

It's the lobbying ethics bill with a Dubai amendment attached to it by Schumer. Frist refused to remove the amendment on the Dubai deal and take it up as a separate vote when Reid asked him to. The Dems voted against cloture. Now maybe he will withdraw the Dubai amendment and do what Reid asked him to do in the first place and vote on it on its own? I think that's pretty close to what just went down.:)

[coalition_unwilling]

31. Maybe a CIA front company (a la Air America in the Vietnam era)?

[stepnw1f]

54. WTF?

[radfringe]

57. heard about it on the radio coming home from work

had the same thought about it being "fronted"... same company different label?

the company I work for is run by another company which is owned by a third company. same products - different labels

[coalition_unwilling]

58. No one knows what connections exist between CIA and Carlyle group,

as the latter is a private investment capital firm, not subject to public disclosure regulations.

During the latter stages of the Vietnam era (after 1969), it has been pretty conclusively documented that Air America (a CIA front company) flew weapons into Laos to support anti-communist forces and flew opium out, much of which made its way to U.S. forces in South Vietnam.

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. WOOHOO! Not agreed to! Motion to reconsider by Frist the cat killer.

[myrna minx]

6. Which repubs voted ney?

Wow. :wow:

[Coexist]

9. yields to Dodd

he would like to get back to this as soon as possible.

Ha - pin him down.

[Roland99]

10. What's this mean?

[dogday]

13. They continue to discuss the ports deal and not

vote on it yet. Did I hear Frist say Ney?

[Roland99]

15. Isn't it sort of moot now in light of DP World's announcement?

[dogday]

21. They are going to want to investigate this new

company and any ties that it may have to any other interests... Someone keeps saying Halliburton, wouldn't that be special?

[Roland99]

23. Interesting...

[Norquist Nemesis]

22. Not at all! The amendment is broader than just DP World n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

29. The ML has to change his vote to make his motion to reconsider.

Now he can bring it back to the floor for a vote. If he voted against the winning vote and left his vote as it was, he couldn't take the back to the floor for a vote. It's a procedural move.

[jbnow]

49. Frist had to vote nay

to be able to bring the Motion to reconsider

[rodeodance]

7. thanks.

[rodeodance]

12. Frist is now smacking Schumer! (completely non-germane amendment)

[Norquist Nemesis]

8. I see Frist is back again

UGH! Should I un-mute? (I see Dodd now)

[rodeodance]

14. Frist reading press release again.

[rodeodance]

16. oh, Frist you already caved to the President! now you want to 'move along"

[Just Me]

19. That press release is meaningless!!!

If Dubai is still getting a contract that allows them to escape compliance with U.S. law, it doesn't fucking matter whether they acquire an American shell company.

This is total bullshit!!!!

[Coexist]

17. "we could clean up this lobbying reform issue today" Dodd

"ports tranferred to a United States Entity"

Who? SSA Marine or the New Jersey Company?

http://www.ssamarine.com/company/history.html

[dubyaD40web]

18. Poor Frist.

B*tch boy is crying.

[rodeodance]

20. Schumer pulled a fast one@=and whinny boy is crying.

[rodeodance]

24. boy is Frist ticked at Schumer. te he.

[rodeodance]

25. he is so so so 'rightous" yaddy

[rodeodance]

28. buts Dems stood firm with Schumer.

[Coexist]

26. I love seeing Frist with his sack clipped

cats around the world are purring right now.

[Marie26]

34. Halliburtion division - KBR: Ports & Harbors

Ports and Harbors

KBR's maritime experience includes port facilities, ship lifts, breakwaters, pipelines, wharves, jetties, harbors, oil platforms, marinas, container terminals, land reclamation works and estuary management.

With our extensive range of infrastructure and engineering design expertise, combined with the services of alliance partners as appropriate, KBR can investigate the full range of project aspects to deliver business-focused solutions.

http://www.halliburton.com/kbr/infra/portsHarbors.jsp

And Schumer said he'd rather have Halliburton than the UAE, & he's offered this Amendment. Does Schumer also know who's taking over these ports?

SCHUMER: Yes, but I'd take Halliburton over UAE at this point, if I had to take a choice right now, this one or the other.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185580,00.html - Sorry, it's Fox News

[in_cog_ni_to]

41. SO...what will happen now? Isn't it a matter of

separating the bills for 2 different votes or let it die? The ethics bill goes down and the Dubai deal too? Or bring them back separately?

[dubyaD40web]

27. Someone please put something in Frist's mouth.

My zipper is stuck.

[rodeodance]

32. nasty nasty

[Skidmore]

30. Frist is always getting hoisted on his own petard.

He thinks he's so slick. Makes you wonder how he made it through medical school. Not real bright.

[spuddonna]

33. Here's something I haven't heard yet...

Schumer puts this amendment in there, and wants to force a vote to kill the ports deal.

Suddenly a news report comes out saying the Dubai Ports will 'sell back the ports' without details...

Now Frist is trying to 'move forward', trying to avoid a vote on it since we 'don't know what the deal is'...

The Dems are trying to get a 'guarantee' that the vote can be brought back once they find out about the deal.

Is it possible that the news release was put out with the sole purpose to stop the vote?

[Marie26]

36. You know what's weird?

All of Dubai Port World's website is down. It's a huge site w/lots of subsidaries, but they're all down. Why would that be?

http://www.dpiterminals.com/

[spuddonna]

42. That's really weird...

You sure that's the main site?

[Marie26]

48. Pretty sure

I'd gone there before.

[spuddonna]

53. Yeah, that link has cached links from Mar 7, 2006...

You are right. It was definitely a site for them...

Wonder why it's down? Weird timing...

[Renew Deal]

44. Then search archive.org

www.archive.org

[spuddonna]

47. Ok, I did a search on google...

I'm not sure, but could this be another way to access the site? www.dpworld.com

Oooh, and lookie! I found a press release:
9 March, 2006
DP World and P&O filed a CFIUS application today with the Department of the Treasury, Office of International Investment. This follows up on the commitment made to the U.S. government and the American people in our Hold Separate Commitment and Request for CFIUS Review, dated February 26, 2006.

Any know how to get hold of a CFIUS application? Sounds like it might have info on the 'new deal'!

ETA - OOPS! Sorry the date to the left said today's date, but the CFIUS app press release was from Mar 3rd... old news! Sorry!

[Marie26]

52. Thanks

I was hoping maybe they'd put something on their site about it, but I guess not. Thanks for finding that!

[in_cog_ni_to]

37. VERY POSSIBLE. That makes sense. It all happened at the same time.

Interesting. Now, will Frist separate the bills and vote on them or is it dead now? He made a motion to reconsider. He will have to either separate the 2 or it goes down again.

[spuddonna]

39. I heard someone say "Well now the vote won't happen today..."

So, the whole bill has been shelved for the day? Not sure...

And now we get to hear Chambliss whine about not being able to go visit his lobbiest son? WAAAAAA!!! Poor Saxby!! lol

[in_cog_ni_to]

45. Frist said that, but Dobbs explained that it didn't have to be that way.

He could separate the dubai amendment from the ethics bill and bring the ethics bill back for a vote TODAY. Frist won't do it. :) He's acting like a baby who has just had his ass handed to him on a platter. :rofl:

[spuddonna]

50. Yeah, that's what I thought Dodd was saying!

They could bring the Ports vote back next week, and do the ethics vote, but Frist had a temper tantrum and said no! lol

[MsUSA]

56. Or yeah, bring it up in the dead of night and twist arms

till they get the result they want, like they did with the drug bill. :puke:

[Just Me]

46. Oh, hell yea the news release was put out to stop the vote!!!!

Damn straight!!! And, it's an extremely sketchy news release, at that!!!

This is total bullshit smoke-screen GRRR!!!

[stepnw1f]

51. YUP

That what I was thinking.

[helderheid]

38. Span 1 or 2?

[spuddonna]

40. cspan 2! n/t

[helderheid]

43. thanks! n/t

[spuddonna]

55. you're welcome! :) n/t