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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:39 PM
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Fascism just as deadly as Communism
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 03:43 PM by ck4829
MYTH - Communism is MUCH deadlier than Fascism ever was.

We hear from the Reactionary Far Rightists that Communism is bad, really bad. Even worse than Fascism.

Not true.

I have researched it for a long time, and I can say that Fascism is the more sinister of the 2 ideologies.

Communism may have killed 113 million people, but it did this over a period of about 70 years.

If you divide the death toll into the range 1917-1987, you get about 1.7 million people killed a year.

That is horrible, but think about this.

Fascism reigned from 1933 to 1945, and in it about 26 million people were killed.

If you divide the death toll into the years it was around, then you would get about 2.1 million people killed a year.

Think about it for a second, what if Fascism stayed around as long as Communism did?

Also let's look at the death tolls of 2 of the most brutal dictators in the world, Hitler and Stalin.

Stalin was around from 1929 to 1953, he killed 43 million people. That means he killed 1.79 million people a year.

Hitler was around from 1933 to 1945 and killed 21 million people. That means Hitler killed 1.75 million people a year.

Is that really a difference?

Don't let them tell you that Fascism isn't all that bad. It's just as brutal as Communism is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:42 PM
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1. Well of course it is
but also I think that Hitler was just so damned good at what he did. He was a real valedictorian fascist. Top of his class. So productive.

Both extremes are evil.
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:47 PM
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2. Mao
made both those guys look like amateurs.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:47 PM
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3. Interesting
But who is saying that fascism isn't that bad?

I think what people might actually be saying is that Fascism is pretty much dead and the new murderous philosophy to watch i Neo-Conservatism. And other people are saying Neo-Conservatism is the same as fascism.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:48 PM
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4. Fascism is worse
in communism there is guaranteed education and healthcare.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:50 PM
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5. But fascism existed not only with Hitler....
...didn't it? I mean, Hitler is not the sole source of fascism in history.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:50 PM
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6. Capitalism... just as deadly as fascism and communism.
Ideologies aren't deadly. It's the people that adhere to them that you have to look out for.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:51 PM
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8. Beat me to it.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:50 PM
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7. How many died for capitalism? Does bomb dropping count in
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 03:51 PM by izzybeans
our toll o' death?


The past century was the bloodiest on record. Ism's abound throughout.

And the precise word you're looking for is Stalinism.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:58 PM
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9. Both are just names, different names for despotism
There never was much communism in Russia; Lenin and Trotsky were still trying to create a communist state when Stalin took over, who was a tyrannic dictator and what his regime did has little to do with communism. Trotsky vilified Stalin because of his state-capitalism.

It should be noted that "communism" is a general term not specific to any world leader or nation-state, while fascism and nazism are specific to Italy/Mussolini and Germany/Hitler respectively - even though obviously the two have much in common. But strictly speaking fascism doesn't have much to do with Hitler, other then that he supported Mussolini. But then again Nazi Germany also had an alliance with Saudi Arabia, where fascist/nazi ideology has a foothold to this very day (see Muslim Brotherhood).

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:00 PM
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10. that sure is a lot of dead people
stupid isms!
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