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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 05:44 AM
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If Bill Clinton could run in 2008.....
Would you vote for him?......knowing all his history......would you vote for him? Why or why not?
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 05:53 AM
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1. I have no energy to focus on the past...

I suggest you work for the future.


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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 05:58 AM
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3. I'll put you down as a No then? n/t
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:17 AM
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8. You Could Not Be More Wrong...
I would vote again for Bubba in a New York second ...but who the fuck cares!!!

"Don't stop thinking about tomorrow!"

Get it?





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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:22 AM
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9. Well I care.....
...Or I wouldn't have asked the question........and you care or you wouldn't have bothered to answer it. A tad cranky this morning aren't we? :*
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:40 AM
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14. My point is that today is an extremely crucial time...
(...and I sincerely apologize if I offended you BooScout)

You & I & the rest of us don't have the luxury of looking backward -- while the busy little privileged bees in DC are hard at the work of fixing permanent power for themselves.

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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:42 AM
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15. You didn't offend me....
And as I said to someone else on this thread.....did you happen to notice I didn't give my answer to the question? There's a reason for that.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:34 AM
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18. You put me down as a "No" where it comes to Bubba Clinton elected today...
I love the man and his presidency (although he fucked things up for Gore & the future of the Democratic party with his sleazy lack of self constraint).

I would vote for the man today if that were an option -- as compared to the monumental sleaziness of Bush fucking with our Constitution instead of an intern.

But this is not a real choice today.

We are where we are. It serves no practical purpose to ruminate about what can never be.

We must now commit our energies to the monumental task of replacing a sitting totalitarian government, which has created a similar momentum globally.


Don't stop thinking about tomorrow.


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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:45 AM
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19. Pssssst....
I'm not really keeping count of the "no's" and "yeses".

Much of the discussions on this site serve no practical purpose other than a way to pass the time or perhaps to make us stop a moment and think and for a small few....to actually make a difference and get involved. The entire purpose of this thread.... at least for me.... was to make people stop and think.

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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:00 AM
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32. I got that...

Let's move on.


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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 05:55 AM
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2. Hell yes
What do I care if the guy has an affair? IMHO the Pres should be getting laid well and regularly, as a matter of Nat'l Security.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:00 AM
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7. Presidents who get laid do tend not to
start wars all the time. Look at Smirky. If he was worth a damn and any whores would have anything to do with him, he wouldn't be so busy...well, busybodying and fucking shit up all over the world so much.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 09:41 AM
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28. Bingo!
I agree. But bu$h is a psychopath/sociopath and people are only good for what they are useful for.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 05:58 AM
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4. Yes, he is the only one who could shovel all this
elephant manure up within a term or a couple of terms.
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 05:58 AM
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5. It depends.
If FDR is running against him in the primary, then probably not.:silly:
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 05:59 AM
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6. Is JFK his running mate? nt
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:26 AM
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10. I'm so damn tired of Clinton this, Clinton that.
If it's not Hillary, it's Bill. Give it a rest already. FYI, no, I wouldn't vote for Bill, and it's mainly to do with the bombing campaigns over Iraq in the years before the invasion of Iraq.
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:29 AM
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11. No.
The only good thing he brought to the Democratic Party was the focus on economic prosperity and balanced budgets. Outside of that, he failed. As a direct result of his "victories" it has allowed the conservative wing of the party to hijack it, demoralize the base, and backstab loyal supporters of the Democratic Party.

Bill Clinton was the past, not the future. We should take from the ashes of his presidency what was good, and disregard the rest.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:36 AM
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12. No
Because of the sex stuff.

I'm kidding. He's just too multi-national entity, but who isn't these days? Can't seem to stop globalization. WTO, NAFTA, etc. Telecommunications. He wasn't opposed to monopoly. He didn't mind that the policies that he supported helped kill Iraqi's, or cost Americans their jobs because there was someone more desperate. He wouldn't have supported them otherwise. Don't tell me he didn't know what would happen with NAFTA, or the sanctions on Iraq. He's not an idiot.

I'm not picking on you, but I do find something funny. Many people here will jump on Republicans for bringing up anything about the Clinton era, sex related, or policy related. Yet at the same time, many people here always bring up Clinton, and the fantasy of the glory days of a prosperous and peaceful Clinton era.

So many want Clinton to be president again. They want Gore to run again. They want Kerry to run again. They want some of the others that ran in the last election to run again. And then people wonder why there is an aristocracy in charge.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:39 AM
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13. I didn't think you were picking on me....
If you notice......I didn't give my answer.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:18 AM
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16. Clinton can not run again Amendment 22
The 22nd Amendment keeps this from happening.

AMENDMENT XXII
Passed by Congress March 21, 1947. Ratified February 27, 1951.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more that two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more that once.

But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the Legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.

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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:20 AM
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17. Thanks for the tip, Sherlock. n/t
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:46 AM
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20. I sort of knew that.....thanks anyway. n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:46 AM
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21. No. I don't think I can. I don't think he understands the dangers that
we face today. I've reached that conclusion after reading Arianna's latest article. I think Bill would still try to make deals with the UAE, when the reality is that they are conduits between us and our enemies. The UAE is strictly business, which means they will be as friendly to us as they are to people like bin Laden. I'm not sure when that perspective will sink in, but, Bush was right on one thing. Either you're with us, or you're against us. Atleast that should apply to people we allow to own our infrastructure.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:48 AM
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22. Right-Wing co worker thought he could get my goat. In front of
several of my peers he comes up to me and says that congress is trying to pass where a guy can be president 3 terms, then asks what do you think of that? I said that would be great news, I then reminded him of ex President Clinton's job approval ratings.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 08:15 AM
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23. Since he can't run
it's not a meaningful or worthwhile question. Why not ask if we'd vote for JFK jr, or Jimmy Carter or anyone else you can name who's not going to be running either.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 08:21 AM
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25. If it's not a meaningfull or worthwhile question....
Why did you waste your time answering?:eyes: ..If you want to ask about Jimmy or JFK then go for it.

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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 01:11 AM
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29. I shouldn't respond, you're right,
but I get so tired of so much energy being put into such idiocies as "Would you vote for Bill Clinton if he could run again", or "Would you vote for John McCain if he switched parties", or even "Name your dream team for 2008".

I wish a lot more of that energy were actually put into campaigning for candidates for the House, Senate, and they many local legislative and gubernatorial races and all the others that are happening this year.

I wish more DUers would run for office themselves. I wish, oh never mind.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 08:17 AM
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24. Yes.
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 08:36 AM
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26. Bill and his epousa are simply neocons in
dem clothing. Wouldn't vote for either of them unless they were running against Cheney or Dobson or their ilk.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 08:43 AM
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27. No. I held my nose and voted for him twice.
And, got pretty much what I expected. A "moderate" Republican posing as a Democrat.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 01:12 AM
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30. FUCK YEAH! I Love The Big Dawg!
Just something friggin about him. Just draws you to him and makes you want to listen to him more. I think he's one of the most charismatic and likeable politicians in the history of politics.
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 01:17 AM
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31. No.
Would not.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:32 AM
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33. NO
Clinton had his chance and he 'blew' it. I used to love Clinton but looking back I now see that he cared more about 'getting it on' than he cared about this nation. It's thanks to Clinton that Gore was tainted and stuck with 'holey Joe' as a running mate and we ended up with the pResident! :mad:
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:57 AM
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34. it'd be fun to see the 22nd repealed so we could see w vs. bill in 2008
just because it would be funny to see gw get his ass kicked in a national election by the man the rw'ers love to hate.

If BC could run in 2008, I wouldn't vote for him in the primary, but if he won the nod I would certainly vote for him in the general election ...
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:01 AM
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35. If he was the nominee. Besides, he did a pretty good job.
But it's pointless to dwell on the past like that.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:15 AM
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36. sure, but with reservation
I never forgave what he did to gays.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:48 AM
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37. To answer your question yes. (nt)
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