Could this be how Nancy RAYGUN convinced John ROBERTS?

[UTUSN]

He said he was irresistibly importuned by (birth name) Ann Francis ROBBINS to give a speech at the RAYGUN lie-brary.

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http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesixmag/02092006/11_05.htm

Breaking the Unwritten Lawford


MAYBE Marlon Brando was as gay as a Hollywood cowboy, but Peter Lawford wasn't. So says his widow, Patricia Lawford Stewart, who is upset by allegations in "Brando Unzipped," the new biography by Darwin Porter. "Peter was not gay," she insists to PAGE SIX. "He loved girls." And Patricia knows Porter is way off on the story he "lifted" from her 1988 book, "The Peter Lawford Story." "Peter Lawford had already spread the word that Nancy Reagan was skilled at fellatio," Porter writes. "He alleged that she had kept not only himself but fellow actor Robert Walker (also Peter's lover) orally entertained a motor trip to Palm Springs." But Patricia insists the trip was to Arizona, for starters, and fumes, "I'm angry that people rip off my book and get the facts wrong."
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[MADem]

1. Whatever

I say leave old Nancy alone. Hell, she was up the pole when she married Ronnie, so she was no choir girl. If she tooted a few horns in her youth, so what.

I didn't particularly care for her as First Lady, mainly because she wore expensive clothes and bought hideously gilded china for the White House during a time when people were losing jobs left and right and having a rough time making ends meet. She served as a convenient symbol of GOP uncaring; that "Screw you, poor folk, I've got MINE!" attitude that pervades to this day. As First Lady, she was a bit too "Let them eat cake" to suit me.

That said, in her dotage, she has done a good thing or two. She put her money where her mouth was, and dedicated herself to making sure her husband got the best care. She kept him at home, and even with help (and we know she had plenty) that still had to be a drain on her--she essentially retired from public life during a time when she had planned to kick up her heels a bit. She supports stem cell research, and she will not back down on that support. She behaved gracefully during her husband's funeral, despite the fact that Dick Cheney left her standing alone and unsupported at age 89 on a slippery floor in the rotunda (with glaucoma, she can scarcely see) and she could barely find her way to her husband's casket.

So, I won't bash the old dame--it's the kind of thing a Republican likes to do; shit on former First Ladies. And I think we're a bit better than that.

[Demeter]

2. Besides, The GOP First Ladies Are More To Be Pitied Than Censured

I really feel for Laura Bush. How can she live with that man? We know how Betty Ford and Pat Nixon did it--Mamie was probably the last sane one, although I wasn't even born then, so I'm just guessing.

[UTUSN]

5. I refuse to participate in the deification of St Nancy & St Ronnie. But

thanks for taking the time to post in a thread you don't like. (Will delete the dupe, below.)

[MADem]

7. All I am doing is expressing an opinion on the matter

Surely, in a democratic society, that is permitted. The thought police aren't out in force yet, I should hope.

I am not deifying the woman, but she had to have done at least one thing right--her Buddhist son, Ron, is a sharp thinker and a caring individual. He had to get that somewhere...

[UTUSN]

8. Well, it sounds like the thought police are unloosed on MY

expressing. By the bye, I didn't originate the piece, as the link shows. It is spread in the wingnut Page Six. Whenever she kicks, we will be DELUGED for a week about what a WONDER the woman was. As far as I'm concerned the TWO good things she's done is to mother Ron Jr AND to squelch wingnuts in their desire to replace FDR on the dime with Ronnie.

[MADem]

15. Hey, I didn't alert anyone on your post

You've every right to post it, I have every right to find the attempts by some author (not you, mind, some author) to try to make money by talking about someone's past with no firsthand knowledge, when all of the supposed witnesses to it are dead, a bit distateful, at a minimum.

I simply expressed an opinion. That's not "thought police," it's simply a contrary view.

And I understand quite clearly that you were simply passing along info that was found in a tabloid, but I think the tabloid is being salacious, and the original author of the information is trying to make some cash. As for Nancy, my guess is that she won't respond at all. Perhaps some third parties might gripe a bit in her defense, but this sort of story sinks fastest if ignored.

And who knows, maybe she gets a furtive kick out of being viewed as a "hot mama" from the vantage of old age. Though I doubt this is her idea of a legacy moment...

[Arkansas Granny]

9. Couldn't have said it better myself. As a first lady, she didn't

win my admiration, but I don't bear her any ill will.

[acmejack]

10. She comported herself with great dignity at the funeral.

I agree with MADem, you said it all.

[UTUSN]

12. O.K., all, have at it. Signing off now. n/t

[tammywammy]

14. I agree MADem n/t

[UTUSN]

3. Dupe, self-delete. n/t

[Poppyseedman]

4. In some circles that would be a positive thing.

It is pretty low rent to imply she currently is servicing John Roberts for a speech.

Whatever you think of her, she did bravely stick by her husband for many years being the good wife. Never heard a peep out of her playing the poor pitiful former first lady. That should count for something.

This post really is in poor taste. I guess, hating reagan is a full time job for some.

[UTUSN]

6. "some"? Me? Yip, I'll take it, would be unemployed under RAYGUN n/t

[UTUSN]

11. & "low rent" is how Repukes keep winning/stealing elections.

It's long past time for us to dump our NOBLE losing.

[Poppyseedman]

13. Oh' Bullshit.

There is a huge difference between dumping on an old lady, no matter who she is, and connecting that to republicans stealing elections.

Implying Nancy Reagan gave John Roberts a blow job for a speech and somehow thinking that will makes us brave and bigger than republicans is exactly making my point.

Your are right, we need to lose our NOBLE losing syndrome, but dumping on an old right winger who earned the respect of a nation for the way SHE (not her husband) handled herself is not going to stop rethugs from stealing elections.

But if it makes you feel better, go right ahead. It's a free country. For now......