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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 03:35 PM
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"Pro-life and anti-war."
Edited on Sat Mar-11-06 03:37 PM by happydreams
How come you never see these pro-life hypocrites raging against oil wars that kill thousands of unarguably alive people, while they obsess over the unborn? This hypocrisy should be shoved in their faces whenever they start spouting their love of life crapola.

They are just stooges for the fascist backed kulturcampf.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 03:43 PM
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1. I was at a Kerry campaign event when he was running and there were
Edited on Sat Mar-11-06 03:46 PM by IsItJustMe
a bunch of pro-lifers there protesting. It was truly scary. They had big trucks driving around with all of these pictures of aborted fetuses on them.

I asked one of them, Do you support the war in Iraq? She said, yes. I then asked, Well then, how in the hell are you pro-life?

She told me that unlike babies who are being aborted, people decide to go into the military and fight, so it's a decision they make.

I told her she was full of shit and intellectually dishonest. She left and walked across the street to hold up her sign of an aborted fetus.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 03:48 PM
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4. I can imagine those damn fetus signs.
She is full of it!:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 04:03 PM
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5. Don't people like that realize that there are a lot of civilians,
including women and children, that are killed every day in Iraq? I would like to ask one of them, just once, how they can justify that, especially since some of those women might be pregnant. I heard someone on the news one time refer to that situation as "abortion by military".
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 04:13 PM
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8. I've heard it once said that people believe what they want to believe and
then look for the facts to back that up. I think this is very true for these people. Most of them are very fundamentalist and thinking is not to be viewed as a virtue. No gray, just black and white.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 04:58 PM
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11. It shouldn't take me by surprise to hear comments like that from
the RWer's. I found this lovely quote yesterday on another site:

"I think these terrorist bombings could be significantly and rapidly reduced if we went assassination teams to kill every member of the terrorist's family. Then family members might start reporting their relatives to the authorities when they find out young Mudeeb is learning how to detonate bombs.
Yes, I do realize that means innocent members, including children, of the bombers would be killed. But I think it would save more lives overall than it would take, and it would be an effective method of reducing--maybe even ending--the bombings."

There are some people that you just can't reason with.


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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:34 PM
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12. and this person would be the first to shit themselves if they ever really
did come in contact with any trouble. I know the type well.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 05:12 PM
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18. I do not believe that they recognize the existence of civilians
in Iraq. As far as they are concerned, there are only terrorists and our troops.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 03:45 PM
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2. "Republicans want live babies so they can turn them into dead soldiers."
-George Carlin
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HillDem Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 03:47 PM
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3. Choose life
Cuz in 18 years we're gonna need that rugrat to waste us some A-RABS!
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 04:23 PM
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9. Bingo
You and Swamp Rat have hit the nail right on the head. After birth, children/people are objects to be used for their ends, which of course justify the means.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 04:09 PM
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6. Most pro-lifers are pro-death when it comes to Arab babies
They would have been the perfect followers for Hitler.
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LizMoonstar Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 04:12 PM
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7. that's the only reason I respect my college's pro-life group advisor -
he's anti-abortion, anti-war, pro-stem cell, anti-death penalty, environmentalist, etc.

i may not agree with his abortion stance, but he's at least consistent - he wants to protect (what he sees as) life in every way possible.

then again, i suppose it doesn't hurt that he's a chemistry PhD'd professor at a liberal arts school.
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:05 PM
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13. It's good to know there is at least one person to fit the title.
:hi:
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 04:44 PM
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10. Some do.
The church I was in back in the '80s fell into that camp quite nicely.

Pacifist, they had members chucked into jail in the '40s and '50s and '60s/'70s for not fighting.

Virulently anti-abortion, even if it meant the woman would die in or before childbirth.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:10 PM
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14. The fact is numerous pro lifers have been in the forefront of
protesting the war. David Bonior and Dennis Kucinich (he didn't change his position on abortion until after he began protesting the war) and the Pope to site a few prominent examples. I would be willing to bet serious money that pro lifers were no more positively disposed to the war in Iraq and the typical citizen was.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:13 PM
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15. The late Pope John Paul two , may he rest in peace, was against the war.
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 04:14 PM by DanCa
I love dropping that bomb into republican Catholics. I also love mentioning that Pope John 2 thought Bush was the anti christ. And come to think of it the Pope was for helping the poor and against guns and the death penality. Hmm whose being a cafeteria Catholic now?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:30 PM
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16. Gov. Kaine of Virginia does
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 04:32 PM by LostinVA
I don't agree with his stance on choice, but I do respect that he truly does practice what he beleives... including civil rights for everyone, including gays. He is also pro-union. He also has -- and still does -- a huge amount of community social justice work.

So.... he's an okay guy overall. He got my vote.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:32 PM
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17. Because they aren't pro-life. They are pro-control and anti-abortion. (nt)
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 04:32 PM by w4rma
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:15 PM
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19. While some of the people cited as pro-life and anti-war
are interesting I want to know why we don't see pro-lifers at anti-war protests. Stating a political position is one thing actively participating in opposition to the war is another.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:17 PM
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20. one of my very first buttons-
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