McCain loses straw poll for Prez in 2008 at Republican meetin in Memphis

[Hamlette]

One activist said, "McCain voted against all the Bush tax cuts... maybe he should have voted for the president then, instead of waiting for a political stunt to try and distract."

the only link I have is Drudge...and Sullivan. http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/

Apparently Frist won, and McCain was such a baby about it that he told his supporters to write in Bush on the run off ballot.

Frist is beatable. I'm not so sure about McCain. But I hear people talk about Schiavo as a horrid event. Won't you just love the commericals showing Dr. Frist proclaiming she is not brain dead?

From Sullivan:

Too many hate him, I fear. And the factions who hate him - the factions who defested him in South Carolina in 2000 - are among the most vicious and shameless in the country. I don't know the full story about the Tennessee Conference, but if it's a prelude to the future, the bitterness still seems alive.

[bluestateguy]

1. These fundy wackjobs may help us win in 2008

McCain is the candidate I fear most, but as long as these good people are the ones doing the voting in Republican primaries, then we need not worry about him being the nominee. Hillary, Warner or Clark will be able to dispose of a clown like George Allen or any of the other lightweights who are contenders.

[Mz Pip]

5. I hope you're right

but after reading the results of that Zogby Poll that shows how many people reject evolution, I'm not so sure.

We seem to be on a backward trend, slowly slipping into some dismal Dark Ages. Scary.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[MrBenchley]

2. Here's MyDD reporting; evidently it's just part of the infighting there

http://mydd.com/story/2006/3/11/14642/0847

[Mz Pip]

3. Frist won

Surprise, surprise.

I wonder how much it cost him to bus in voters? DId he pay for their hotel rooms too?

Everytime I hear Frist talk I wonder how the hell did he get into Harvard Medical School? He just doesn't seem very bright.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[CTyankee]

4. Oh, goody! Go fundies, go fundies!

Real happy to hear it. Keep it up!

[napi21]

6. Pat Buchanan was on CNN earlier today talking about this straw poll.

He said Frist was in DEEP SHIT if he didn't win this one. It's in TN. and almost everyone there is from TN and should be a Frist supporter. He also said he thought McCain was pushing this BS about voting for Bush because he realized he was going to fail badly in the straw poll and was using this as a crutch.

[johnaries]

7. So THAT's why it was held in Memphis, so Frist could bus in

his supporters more easily.

Don't celebrate yet, this straw poll obviously means nothing.

BUT, if McCain keeps sucking up to Bush we can use this against him if he does run in 08.

[rodeodance]

10. but frist can gain lots of political just saying he won the straw vote.

.....The real chaos kicked in when Trent Lott, himself a McCain ally, attacked the credibility of the straw poll's results, saying that it was being fixed in favor of Bill Frist. Here's what he told CNN.

"Frist is bussing people in," Lott said, referring to Senate Majority Bill Frist (R-Tennessee), whose political organization is working to ensure he wins this unscientific early test of election viability. "These are not real delegates. These are people being bussed in to produce the results. It is a rigged deal. It doesn't matter."

That possibility -- that Frist might bus supporters to Memphis for the event -- is one that I raised in my first post about the SRLC. And if it turned out to be true, then Lott's suspicions might have been correct. But crying to CNN about a rigged election before the election's even held is pretty unfair, as it prejudges the outcome and calls the validity of the whole process into question.

What's so interesting to me about these stories is the fact that the only two people openly trying to wreck the straw poll are McCain and one of his supporters. In urging attendees not to vote for him and instead write in Bush, McCain set himself up in a position where he can't lose. It's a total cop out in that, if he performs poorly, he can point to the fact that he wasn't trying to win anyway, going so far as to endorse someone else. And Lott calling the whole process "rigged" by Frist is the icing on that cake, stripping what remained of the poll's credibility. This is nothing but scorched earth. McCain obviously didn't feel he was strong enough to win the poll, so he had to tear it apart instead.

[johnaries]

12. Please, please, PLEASE let Frist be the candidate!

Anybody we run will kck his ass! It's certain he'll lose TN, everyone here knows he's gone insane. Every Repuke I've talked to here hates him.

[rodeodance]

8. Frist WON--geech I thought McCain was the annointed.

[rodeodance]

9. Fox does not seem to know who won yet

[hlthe2b]

11. Wow, what material: "Americans, Haven't we had Enough...

Brain-dead Presidents?" Hee hee hee....

[bigtree]

13. he'll have to tack hard right to win the republican nomination

and there goes his supposed crossover appeal

[DeaconBlues]

14. Neither McCain or Rudy G. will be nominated by the Repubs

no matter how much the corporate media drools over them. The average Repub primary voter considers McCain to be a communist, and will think the same of Rudy when they discover he is pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and pro-gun control.

[Hamlette]

15. So Frist is still serious about this?

Amazing. I heard some pollster pundit type saying that Americans were pissed off at the GOP for two things, Schiavo and Iraq. If that's true, and I think it is, Frist is suicide to the GOP.

Apparently, according to Sullivan, there are many in the GOP who hate McCain. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the GOP did in 2008 what we did in 2004? Pick their worst candidate to run. (Sorry to all you Kerry fans out there but I don't think Kerry was our strongest candidate. We should have gone with Dean, or Clark or Edwards. Yeah, and I said it then. Kerry was my last choice.)

edited to add clairfying statement.

[oasis]

16. It's McCain's final go in2008. He wants the WH, he'll go independent.

The pitiful swine.

[Perky]

21. You are dreaming

I wish I could share it. It would mean Georga Allen would be the GOP nod and split the SOuth with McCain.

Democrat would win a plurality of the EV. and we would likely take back the House .

[NVMojo]

17. good, may they annihilate each other and may we get a good candidate

to beat their stupid butts!

[UTUSN]

18. What, did they stop Tweety from voting multiple times? n/t

[KAT119]

19. See Kurth's thread today re McCain's saying that anyone saying * is lying

is lying. This is Mc's Waterloo.

[Perky]

20. It was rigged for Fritz

In his Home state and he brough in folks by the busload. No one should put any credence in a strawpoll two full years before the first primary