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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:07 AM
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Book, Cal Thomas, John Stossel urge exodus from public schools
To: National Desk

Contact: Chaplain (Lt.Col., USAR Ret) E. Ray Moore, Jr., 803-714-1744; Dr. Bruce Shortt, 832-483-8882; www.Exodusmandate.org and www.homeschoolingfamilytofamily.org

COLUMBIA, SC, Mar. 10 /Christian Wire Service/-- The most recent voice to call for the exodus of children from the public schools is the Christian radio talk show "Point of View, Dallas," Texas founded by the late Marlin Maddoux. During the entire week of March 6-10 the show has featured Marlin Maddoux's new book entitled PUBLIC EDUCATION AGAINST AMERICA with Kerby Anderson and Penna Dexter as co-hosts. This program has a loyal audience and the potential to reach several million Christians.

Bruce Shortt, Exodus Mandate Board member and author of THE HARSH TRUTH ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS, commented on this important development: "Marlin Maddoux virtually pioneered Christian talk radio, founded the USA Radio network, cultivated a new generation of gifted radio personalities as Kerby Anderson and Penna Dexter, wrote several books and gave a radio voice to a Christian worldview for over 30 years. Yet, even in poor health at the end of his life, his commitment to Christianity and the family did not let him slacken his kingdom work. The result is the final piece of the Marlin Maddoux legacy: PUBLIC EDUCATION AGAINST AMERICA."

According to E. Ray Moore, Jr, Director of Exodusmandate.org and also a guest on "Point of View" on March 9, "The publication of Marlin's new book and the clarion call by "Point of View" for Christian families and churches to take up one of the K-12 Christian education options, either Christian day schools or home schooling, is a another watershed event. We believe this moment will be pivotal in the on-going effort by ministries, organizations, churches and pastors to provide children with a thoroughly Christian, Bible-based K-12 Christian education experience."

Warren Kelly, "Point of View" President and Marlin Maddoux's son-in-law, on March 6, the first day of the special one week feature on Marlin's book said: "Many other Christian organizations and ministries across the nation are now coming to the same conclusion as "Point of View", that it is time to get the children out of public schools and into Christian education."

"Point of View" by issuing such a clear call to the American Christian community has joined with the voice of Cal Thomas, one of USA's top newspaper columnists, who urged the religious community to exit the state run public schools in his 12/16/05 and 12/27/05 nationally syndicated columns. Also, John Stossel on Jan. 13, on ABC's 20/20 issued a similar warning of the danger that the monopolistic public school system represented to the future and well being of the American nation.

Further Moore said, "It may take 5 to 7 more years to wash and scrub dependency on the public schools out of the Christian community, but real progress is being made. We are turning a corner."


http://www.earnedmedia.org/em0310.htm
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:15 AM
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1. The right wing goes twirly again
A study of private schools are not impressive with grades compared to public schools.

Private schools are not an option in much of heartland America where public schools have their board elected by local voters and that's the way locals want it.

The GOP elitists keep on setting up these straw men.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 07:47 AM
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14. Love that subject line
They really want to go back to the frontier days.

With the same federal budget for education but a bit more set aside for military and corporate welfare.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:15 AM
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2. Fewer fundies in public schools?
And this would be a bad thing?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:18 AM
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4. Yeah, the black GOP elitist Allen
chose to homeschool his kids. You know, teaching them proper morals.

The GOP offer a laugh a minute.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:21 AM
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5. Only if they get their "vouchers" to use tax money on their schools
to the detriment of the local public school, which I believe is their aim.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:29 AM
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6. The rural schools in the country are not affected
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 03:30 AM by Erika
by tax vouchers. They rule the schools. The tax vouchers are for only large urban districts.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 05:55 AM
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9. They want to drown public education in a bathtub. n/t
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 06:57 AM
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11. I forget
where I saw it but I read an article about ohio schools and how columbus wants to privatize them.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:00 AM
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21. No
They want to transfer those public taxpayer dollars over to their religious schools. So they would end up with public religious schools with absolutely no accountability.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:57 AM
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26. you've nailed it
some of these already rich private schools are drooling at the prospect at becoming even fatter on federal funds--some of them already have larger endowments than some small colleges
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:16 AM
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3. More prison schools. Old testment rules without oversight. NT
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:03 AM
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7. Stossel is such
an arrogant asshole his stupid smirky face makes me :puke: everytime I see him. :mad:
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 05:45 AM
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8. Stossel looks like a throwback to Hall and Oates. n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 07:02 AM
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12. !
:spray:
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:10 AM
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18. Beware the GOP moustache agenda!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 06:00 AM
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10. This is a big fat con job...
so rich folks can send their kids to their private schools on the taxpayers' dime.

fucking welfare queens.
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ChristianLibrul Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 07:43 AM
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13. Let 'em go
Good riddance. Separatism has always been about race and religion. No one else is white enough or krixtain enough for those theofascists. They're afraid their hot house kids will catch something "those people." Good riddance.

But they don't get vouchers. And they don't get to secede again. If they can't share America with the rest of us, they can move to Argentina with all the other confederate and nazi holdouts.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 07:56 AM
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15. a thinly veiled call for resegregation
and dare we say brainwashing...
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:02 AM
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16. let them go.
Adios.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:07 AM
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17. Good article: Stossel's Great Invisible Handjob
http://www.buffalobeast.com/94/stossel.htm

It’s odd Stossel would be so hard on the American education system. Incredibly, his bio on the ABC News website states “Five of specials have been adapted into Teaching Kits by In The Classroom Media for use by high school teachers to help educate their students about economic freedom. These kits “are now being used by over 25,000 teachers in over 35 percent of the schools in the United States, reaching over 4.2 million students per year.” Maybe he’s just accelerating privatization by taking schools down from the inside.

In fairness, Stossel practices what he preaches, particularly the classic capitalist precepts of invention and adapting to survive. When facts don’t fit the story he’d like to tell, he creates better ones. FAIR documented how Stossel, in a 2001 special, portrayed the American classroom as “an environmental boot camp.” He attempted to conduct students in a “chant” about climate change to illustrate they’d been brainwashed. When parents complained about leading questions he asked in interviewing their children, ABC pulled the footage. Stossel, undeterred, simply found different kids to prompt.

*snip*
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:58 AM
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27. Stossel is a piece of shit
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 01:46 PM
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29. “an environmental boot camp.”
That was my experience of private school. Unfortunately, it was also my experience in the early elementary level public schools I attended, where other kid bullies were never punished, but if I reacted to them, I was spanked by the principal.

Horrible, horrible experience, school was for me. It was JAIL. Would never have children to experience the hatred I was forced to endure at the hands of those who were supposed to protect.
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left of center Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:44 AM
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19. The public schools won't be going anywhere. They will simply
change like everything changes, and that is a good thing. People like Cal Thomas and John Stossel are far from objective dissenters, with one motivated by religious fervor and the other by libertarian ideology.

I saw a news special by Stossel a few weeks ago. He is smart and has some good ideas, but his blanket application of libertarian principles completely misses the boat on certain issues. It was ironic seeing him use the "tragedy of the commons" to justify privatizing public lands. He said history shows that private property is better cared for.

Now who is he fooling? Has he ever driven through rural America and seen how many people quite literally trash their property or how their home will sit on a treeless lot devoid of any landscape? Does he really think a business that buys parkland from our government will operate and maintain it as such rather than log it or sell it for development? Really, I mean.. which scenario is more likely there!
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left of center Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:48 AM
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20. Also, I've known people who attended private schools, even
dated a girl from one. Believe you me, private is not synonomous with superior. Granted, many are, but many are far from it!
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:48 AM
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23. The problem I have with private schools is
not that they're superior, but that everyone I've ever met who went to one, when asked, puts their nose into the air and says something like, "I went to a private school."

grad of private schools, I have found, generally act like they're superior to the rest of us, even when they're- generally speaking- not. That air of superiority extends into adulthood, and becomes the cancer on our national soul that allows someone like * to be "leader".
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:49 AM
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25. Not always
I went to private school, and I'm always embarrassed when people ask, because I'm afraid people will have a reaction like yours. But I must admit I don't regret the experience. The thing is, these guys have a point: you get more bang for your buck from private schools. They do a better job for less money. The question is how much external factors--the relative wealth and parental involvement of private school students, for instance--are a factor. The Stossels of the world never address issues like that.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 02:30 PM
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33. I generally agree
Real education is reflective of the effort the individual puts into it, not necessarily the financial investment or the particular brand names. As for me, my standardized test scores and general level of knowledge are more than comparable with my counterparts who've attended private schools. I have never found any basis for feeling remotely inferior.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:43 AM
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22. Those parents should look into what they're selling.
I interviewed for two Baptist teaching jobs in the course of trying to find a teaching job right out of college. Boy, were they bad. *shudder* The books were horrible, the teachers were barely competent, and the curriculum at the one I interviewed the most at (but wasn't hired by because the deacon board didn't like that I was Eastern Orthodox Christian--not that they even really knew what that meant) was not up to state standards.

I ended up in the Catholic schools, and I was really impressed with the schools I taught in, public school kid that I am. I taught in more tolerant schools that worked hard to deal with racism and sexism, to prepare all students for college (even ones other schools would've tracked differently), and to provide a supportive environment for all students. I know not all Catholic schools are like that, but the ones I worked in were.

My daughter started kindergarten this year, and she goes to the local Catholic school. One visit was all it took for me--best elementary I've ever seen. That, and they have been the most supportive of us, with my pain and surgery and all this year, more than I could've asked for. I have no problem paying for a school that teaches at least one grade level ahead and yet has students of all abilities and backgrounds.

I haven't seen many fundies or evangelicals there, though. If they are sending their kids to the "Christian" schools (that's usually a moniker to make them separate from Lutheran and Catholic schools), they're paying for a less-than education.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:55 AM
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24. These people want to utterly destroy the public school system...
...education is rapidly becoming something affordable by only the wealthy, and the wealthy are supportive of private schools only.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 12:01 PM
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28. They want ill educated Peeps out there...who else to become pawns
and financial slaves?
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 02:00 PM
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30. So In a nutshell:
The lower caliber students will be removed from the public schools and taught at home for their future career at Walmart while the bright high caliber students can go on to be the Doctors, Scientists, Engineers, Artists, Writers, and Architects of the new century.

Well damn, what are we waiting for...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 02:10 PM
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31. Stossel spent way too much time masturbating to Ayn Rand's drivel
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 02:14 PM
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32. Things like this highlight that the fundies are victims.
Kept ignorant and worked up into religious frenzies by racketeering ministers and despotic politicians.
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