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Ufomammut Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:16 AM
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Iran official says U.S. behind al-Qaeda attacks
Iran Focus

Tehran, Iran, Mar. 04 – Iran’s Interior Minister accused the United States of using its infiltrators in al-Qaeda to carry out terrorist attacks that would serve its interests, government-owned newspapers in Tehran reported on Saturday.

Radical Shiite cleric Mostafa Pour-Mohammadi said that Iran had “specific intelligence” proving that the U.S. had infiltrated al-Qaeda and ordered its cells to carry out terrorist attacks to convince other members of the group that they are genuine devotees.

“We have specific intelligence that America has infiltrated al-Qaeda with certain individuals and has even given the orders for terrorist strikes in order to strengthen their position”, Pour-Mohammadi told a meeting of local officials in the southern city of Kerman.

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6067
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:25 AM
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1. Then divulge that
specific intelligence. Yep, this guy has no motive to make such an accusation.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:01 PM
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27. Yes, but questioning Pour-Mohammadi's "motives" is the same thing
Pour-Mohammadi is doing here: Questioning "Bush's" motives.

I agree with you that I'd like to see the "specific intelligence" - but since when has our government ever provided "specific intelligence" for it's allegations? When it has, we have later discovered that that "intelligence" was false. In other words, our government (BushCo) has lied to us.

I'm not saying Pour-Mohammadi is any more credible than Bush, but I'm also saying that he isn't any LESS credible.

Both Bush and Pour-Mohammadi are playing games with their words - throwing accusations around to rile up their supporters.

I think that the saddest part about all of this, is that our President of the United States is NO MORE credible than the theocratic leader of Iran. Pretty sad fucking day in this country, I'd say. Both are idiots. Both are trying to provoke eachother into war. Both are assholes.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:29 PM
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28. Exactly. I can't imagine believing
either of them about anything. But there are American politicians that I trust almost completely, and of course, I can't say the same about Iranian officials.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 05:08 PM
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31. Are you insinuating that we can't trust Mostafa Pour-Mohammadi ?
Radical Shiite cleric Mostafa Pour-Mohammadi said that Iran had “specific intelligence” proving that the U.S. had infiltrated al-Qaeda and ordered its cells to carry out terrorist attacks to convince other members of the group that they are genuine devotees.

If Iran infiltrated al-Qaeda, would the infiltrators be genuine al-Qaeda devotees?

Were any of the attacks ordered by infiltrators actually carried out?
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Astrad Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:39 AM
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2. That's as credible as this
We found Padilla's al Qaeda application, U.S. says

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13614792.htm
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:50 AM
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9. Padilla must have submitted his resume here...
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:30 AM
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11. I thought the terrrrrrists apply to qaeda through monster.com? nt
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:41 AM
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3. That would explain 9-11.
MIHOP. I'm very curious to see what evidence the Iranians have.

-Laelth
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:23 AM
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6. The Iranians may or may not have evidence about U.S.
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 10:23 AM by ladjf
infiltration into Al Queda. But, it might have been one great ploy be them to claim that they do because the Bush administration might not know whether they are bluffing. If they do have evidence of MIHOP, it would explain the wildly inflammatory remarks that the Iranian President has been making about Israel. He knows that he has the "goods" on Bush.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:50 AM
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16. Chalabi still on our payroll AND Iran's payroll?
Yep, bushco may have trouble deciding about a bluff. They are not real careful about who they pay for info, just like they don't consider the best people for appointments.

Heck of a job, Chalabi!
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 01:02 PM
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20. Bush's insistence on the Ports deal could have related to
a blackmail situation. The word might be out about Bush.The AE and Iran may have the evidence to prove that Bush's people were involved in 9-11 and other attacks.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:13 PM
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39. That makes sense. Also, Iran MUST know about the hostage release
delay right at the end of the 1980 Presidential election. All sorts of rumors about that one.

Who knows? for sure but it's awfully fishy. Supposedly Iran is years away from a bomb. Of
course, it doesn't help that a f'ing Holocaust denier runs Iran and he's bat shit loony.

Pray for peace!
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:43 AM
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13. Me too....I've always wonder why there are so many senseless
killing going on in Iraq, Think of the Christian journalist that they just kill, I'm not sure but does it make sense killing the person that is there to help you? There are so many answered question that it makes you sick just thinking about it.


:think:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 01:04 PM
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21. 500 Iraqi academics and intellectuals, basically the heart of
their intelligent ia. Strong evidence points to the U.S. as the assassins.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:56 AM
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4. The only administration crazier
than the Shrubs.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:11 AM
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5. I don't know about that
I never heard any Iranians say that God or Allah told them to attack another country like Bush and Blair both have. Crazy is as crazy does.

Don
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:52 AM
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17. Huh? Actually that would be the Nazis. eom
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 01:43 PM
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22. Presently.
Or are you calling shrub a Nazi?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 02:42 PM
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25. Don't put words in my mouth.
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 02:43 PM by TheGoldenRule
Just pointing out that calling Iranians crazy sounds like reich wing propaganda to me.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 06:05 PM
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35. Oh ok.
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 06:06 PM by gizmo1979
Kind of cranky aren't we.
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:45 AM
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7. Most of the Arabs rounded up after 911 were given a choice.:
Work for the US government as spies or moles or face deportation. The ones who went to jail and were deported stood up to the Justice Department's threats. Many have left family here. How do I know? My cousin-in-law was one of the last deported. They took his children away from his wife and put them in a fundie foster home where they were forced to go to church and eat pork. He had enough good will behind him to hold out against the Justice department despite three courts saying they had no evidence he was connected to anyone or was planning anything other than living a simple life with his family.

Given that, even though Iran would be attacking us with words, this is could very well be true and something to think about.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:34 PM
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29. Good god. That's an awful story.
:(
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:47 AM
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8. More than a llittle truth there.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:26 AM
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10. It would certainly make sense. If Al Qaeda is a US construct, it wouldn't
surprise me one bit. The Bush Crime Family certainly have cozied up to the bin Ladens, the UAE (their financiers) and the Saudis (their homeplace). Why do people doubt the Bush Crime Family wouldn't be connected to this group? The bin Ladens and Saudis and Bushes have done business together for 30 years. Soon the Carlisle Group or Halliburton or one of the other BushCo front groups will take over the ports for the UAE/Terrorists R Us front group. Everything BushCo has done has maximized the growth of Al Qaeda and vise-versa.

Perhaps Bush is that elusive first-in-command we are always looking for when we get the 2nd or 3rd. Or OBL is HIS first in command.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:36 AM
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12. Don't doubt this for a minute.
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 11:37 AM by hang a left
In fact I believe it whole-heartedly. Would love to see his intelligence.


on edit: Recommended
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:54 AM
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18. Me too-I don't doubt it either. eom
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 12:04 PM
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19. i hate "me too" replies
but i have to agree.


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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 02:37 PM
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23. I see nothing wrong with saying "me too". nt
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 02:38 PM by TheGoldenRule
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:44 AM
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14. At least as much truth as that Saddam had stockpiles of WMDs
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:47 AM
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15. They should release whatever evidence they
have, if they do Bushco are going straight to Hague, do not pass go.

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 02:41 PM
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24. I could actually believe Bush would do something like that.
Does anyone really think Bush has convictions that would stop him from doing this if he could? I won't believe it until there's evidence though.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 02:53 PM
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26. I've thought this for a long time
including about the most infamous attack on American soil (or rock)
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:42 PM
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30. I wonder if they are consistent in mentioning media ownership.
I'm looking forward to the day when CNN is referred to as "corporate owned tv network", and MSNBC as "weapons manufacturer owned media outlet".
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 05:17 PM
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32. Lets look at these charges logically for a moment
Fact: The Afghan Mujahideen were supported (for about a decade) by the CIA to terrorize the Soviets

Fact: Osama bin Laden was a member of the Afghan Mujahideen

Unknown: The date when the CIA and Osama bin Laden ended their dealings
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george_hurley Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 05:36 PM
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33.  ***PETITION TO SIGN: NO WAR WITH IRAN ***
Hello,

For the past year, the growing tensions mounting between the US, Israel, and Iran are reaching a point where military action against Iran is w/in months of becoming reality. The repercussions are terrifying as such military action could involve countries such as China and Russia as they share massive energy/economic interests w/ Iran. The most likely scenario we would face would be the collapse of the US economy as the combination of a massive rise in oil prices and a run on the US dollar would surely be the weapon many countries would use to fight back against a preemptive US or Israeli strike.

For a collection of articles and resources on this subject you can visit this link: http://reseaudesign.com/research/iran/iran_summery.html

I'm starting up a petition which I will be sending out to as many members of Congress as possible. I'm asking for help to get this signed by as many people, possible in the next month. Send it to as many people you can.

http://www.petitiononline.com/n0war1rn/



Also, here is another petition you can sign from another group:
http://stopwaroniran.org/statement.shtml




Thanks for your time

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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 05:43 PM
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34. It's possible. DEA agents deal drugs to bust drugdealers.....
Remember the group of British soldiers in the south of Iraq wearing arabian garb that were being held in prison by Iraqi's who were then liberated by fellow British soldiers by bulldozing down the prison?

To gain trust of your supposed enemy you have to "prove" your trustworthiness.

Look at all the crooks in Congress, mostly Republicans, who continue to support this criminal regime and still claim to be protecting civil liberties.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 06:43 PM
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36. If it's true, then expose the Bush Administration
If it's not true, there goes your credibility
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 06:46 PM
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37. Iran benefits most from Sunni-shiite civil war in Iraq
which is why I think Iran was behind the mosque shrine attack
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:48 AM
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38. Please DU the poll at the link in the OP.
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