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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:00 PM
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It's about time Hillary got angry (NY Daily News)
It's about time Hillary got angry
by:Lenore Skenazy
NY Daily News

Sometimes I feel as if the President and I are in a bad marriage.

It was never a love match, but I was willing to give the guy a shot. That is, until he started giving national forest land to the loggers and policy-writing privileges to the energy companies. Then there was the war. The lies about the war. The torture and the excuses for torture, the illegal detainees . . .

Pretty soon, I couldn't stand it. I wanted OUT! But after a while, I so got tired of being angry all that time that, like a beleaguered wife, I just grew resigned.

"Oh, the feds are so strapped for cash that they're going to make the folks in public housing pay more to get their toilets unclogged?" I would read. "Bet that'll make a big dent in a $400 billion deficit." Shrug. "Oh, 50 people were kidnapped in one fell swoop in Iraq, now that the place is in utter chaos? That'll really burnish America's image as a nation builder." Shrug. "Guess I'll go get a Starbucks."

But even as I was giving up, one wife was going the opposite direction. She'd been meek for a while, almost Stepford-ish in her eagerness to please, but finally, she had enough. "There are lots of things that we should be angry and outraged about," she told a crowd last week. To be angry, she declared, is "a badge of honor!"

Hillary Clinton was finally mad. And darned if the rest of the country isn't ready to be mad, too.

more at:
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/399071p-337975c.html
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:03 PM
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1. Panderer.
She gives lip service to getting angry, but goes along with any proposal that screws the little guy: Iraqi War Resolution, the bankrupcy bill. Hell, she didn't even vote on the Patriot Act (well, I'll qualify that. Her name wasn't on a list of those voting that was posted on DU. If she did vote against it, I'll take that portion back.)
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:19 PM
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6. if memory serves
SHE DID NOT VOTE FOR THE BANKRUPTCY BILL. so stop saying that, joementum did
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:17 PM
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16. But how did she vote on the PATRIOT Act?
In any case, I don't really dislike her: I just know for a fact she can't win a national election. She's been vilified for so long that even Democrats in my area think she's, and I'm quoting them, "a man-hating bitch." I actually had someone say that to me the other day. And he voted for Clark in the primary and Kerry in the general election. He's also not anti-woman, he just doesn't like Hillary because of the years and years of vilification that we cannot overcome in one election.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:27 PM
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17. she did vote for the patriot act
and that is one of my beefs with her, and why i would not be happy if she got the nom. i don't think she can win. the pukes are praying for a fight with her because they think she hasn't got a chance.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:06 PM
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2. They want her to get pissed off
Then they can say shes an angry person, unable to make competent decisions because of it. Thats framing at its best.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:13 PM
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4. "Anger in defense of liberty is not a failing!"
Pull a Goldwater on 'em. :shrug:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:31 PM
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18. Did Goldwater say that? Time to make it a bumper sticker, especially for
those of us in the Red states.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:55 PM
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20. Goldwater said ...
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 05:03 PM by TahitiNut
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

It's far past time to shove those words down the GOP's throat.

He also said ...

"A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away."
... and ...
"Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed."
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:07 PM
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3. Actually, this is an interesting analysis, the finish is GREAT
Americans can see that Bush's tenure has been marked by this kind of hypocrisy and incompetence, same as we witnessed during Hurricane Katrina. But until now, except in Cindy Sheehan, we haven't seen much anger.

Maybe that's because the Democrats actually believed the Republican mantra that anger is a useless, even destructive emotion.

They shouldn't have. Anger may be no substitute for action, but without it, there often isn't any action. Ask a mistreated wife. It takes anger to wake up, walk out and start a better life.

Hillary, at last, is angry. So am I. And so, it seems, is the country. Good. Because that's the first step toward change.


There's a sea change happening; and let's hope the tide washes away all the crap!
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:30 PM
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10.  "we haven't seen much anger." ????
apparently they havent been to any Dem sites or visited my area. I dont know anyone who isnt pissed off other than the uninformed ignorant.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:38 PM
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12. I think she is speaking of the Congress, frankly
She refers to Cindy's anger, and Cindy sure as hell wasn't alone.

It's our elected reps who have been treading too carefully, afraid of being Rove'd to death. Jack Murtha was the damn canary in the coal mine, being one of the first to stand up and shout "Bullshit!" Of course, he had extreme gravitas and 95% of the Pentagon staff behind him...but the fact that he did it makes him truly deserve his PROFILE IN COURAGE award.

I'm pleased that people are starting to take note of the sea change. Sure, I wish it happened sooner, but at least it is starting to happen. We can only hope that we aren't too late, and we can turn this mess around.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:15 PM
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5. So Hillary's finally mad? Whoopee do.
I don't believe her anger is anything more than political posturing. She wasn't mad enough to support Cindy Sheehan now was she? :eyes:

Tell it to someone who cares Hillary. :puke:
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goreo8 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:27 PM
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8. I agree with you
Hillary loves to play the victim. Poor me.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:24 PM
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7. She's gotten angry before. Just not about anything that mattered.
My opinion of her would rise drasticly if she would stop pissing into the breeze with these "Look, I'm A Centrist, Too!" issues and do something that actually needs doing. I believe she has it in her. . . but I can't really get behind her in any way other than an "Anybody But Bush" mindset until she shows me something I'd want to vote for.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:28 PM
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9. Good! Hil's angry! Let's encourage the anger. Give her a head's
up! You go, girl. I'm with you.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:31 PM
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11. Who Cares?
If she wasn't mad 5 years ago...who cares?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:40 PM
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13. What are we supposed to do? Believe this or give a damn? I know she's
mad about the content of video games and flag burning.

BFD.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:00 PM
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14. Billy-boy has been hangin too much lately with Sr.Bush...
Grandma Bush actually referred to Bill Clinton as another, son?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:06 PM
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15. She's angry is she? Well that pro-occupation, pro-Patriot act, anti-flag
burning corporatist can just kiss mine good-bye! I'll be working to get out the vote and raise $s for Jonathan Tasini and you should all do the same if you NYers want a real progressive working in the Senate for us. www.TasiniforNY.org... also see www.pdamerica.org and sign on!
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:34 PM
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19. It's about time Hillary Clinton got bent.
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 04:43 PM by FlemingsGhost
What, pray tell, could the DLC triangulation postergirl possibly be angry about?
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