CLOONEY: "F-U to dems who voted for the war"

[Yollam]

I know this article has been mentioned already, but I did want to emphasize this part:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-clooney/i-am-a-liberal-there-i-_b_17119.html

The fear of been criticized can be paralyzing. Just look at the way so many Democrats caved in the run up to the war. In 2003, a lot of us were saying, where is the link between Saddam and bin Laden? What does Iraq have to do with 9/11? We knew it was bullshit. Which is why it drives me crazy to hear all these Democrats saying, "We were misled." It makes me want to shout, "Fuck you, you weren't misled. You were afraid of being called unpatriotic."


And in addition to Mr. Clooney's words, I'd like to add that we have yet to hear Sens. Clinton, Kerry, or any other pro-war "democrats" stand up and take responsibility for their cowardice. They continue to cop out with excuses like "Bush tricked us!" or "The IWR stipulated that Bush come back to the Congress again before invading!", etc.


I personally don't believe that this party can ever fully recover or claim the high ground as long as its pro-war members don't own up to their complicity in the Iraq fraud and pledge to turn over a new leaf.





But I know it's never going to happen...

[physioex]

1. Clooney is just an actor.....

And I thank him for his comments, but it is up the constiuents like ourselves to stand up to the DINOs and demand responsibility...

[MichiganVote]

10. Rich or poor, actor or not, Clooney is a citizen and he get's printed

Most of us don't. I say let him speak and hear him speak.

[unblock]

15. yeah, well, reagan was also "just an actor" at one point.

food for thought....

[physioex]

21. Raygun.....

Was a B Rated "Actor" and his best moview was Bedtime for Bonzo......Do we even want to go there? ;)

[CBGLuthier]

45. no, his best movie was The Killers

He plays the baddest guy in a film where everybody is a bad guy and he dies great. :-)

[physioex]

51. That wasn't a movie....

It was 8 years of his pResidency.....

[CBGLuthier]

53. True, true

Good part of why I enjoyed that movie so much was watching him die at the hands of Lee Marvin who may have been a bit of an SOB but served his country a hell of a lot better than Reagan or any of the assclowns he surrounded himself with.

[physioex]

56. LMAO...You guys are too hilarious...EOM

[Yollam]

23. That's actually an appealing thought.

Clooney has all of Reagan's charisma, better looks, and isn't even in the same league in terms of intelligence.

I'd love to see a governor, then a President Clooney, but it seems like all of the really good ones aren't interested in pursuing public office.

[theHandpuppet]

24. One who has made some of the most gusty films of our time

How about "Good Night and Good Luck" and "Syriana" for starters? Some actors and artists use their talent to reach millions of people in ways most of us cannot. I applaud Clooney for using those talents to make important statements on a global scale.

[physioex]

25. Yea no doubt.....

We are very greatful for his work and comments...

[matcom]

37. um......

he is a constiuent too :shrug:

[physioex]

42. LOL.....

Ofcourse he is, and I have no issues with that..... ;)

[leftchick]

43. reagan and arnold were just actors too

:shrug:

[harpo]

46. and soon to be partner in casino stuff in vegas

bring your suit

[radwriter0555]

91. The casino business has been set aside in light of recent economic

downturns in Las Vegas. Mr. Clooney et al have decided to not go ahead with their project, along with many, many other luxury builders and developers there.

There was a massive 10 year plan for vegas that just dried up, like the desert it's in the midst of.

[harpo]

98. Doesn't appear so...links included here...

The official website of their investment group
http://www.lasramblasvegas.com/news/

Larry King interview w/ Clooney
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/16/lkl.01.html

[mondo joe]

47. And Cindy Sheehan is just a mom.

And Rosa Parks was just getting on a bus.

[ClintonTyree]

2. We're not allowed to say bad things about our Democratic leaders...

if I said what I'm thinking about a few of them regarding the Iraq war resolution, that's probably a good idea! ;) It wouldn't be pleasant.

[K8-EEE]

3. Could That Man Get Any More Fabulous?

Abso-fucking-lutely George, I'M A LIBERAL TOO AND DAMN PROUD OF IT....

I have a hard time with "we were misled" too -- come on, WE all knew it was BS, why didn't THEY? Hillary lost me on this one....

[Jacobin]

4. ...and the horses they rode in on.

[mdmc]

5. a shout out to the scar-edy-dems

[Joanne98]

6. the party can recover. i don't know about the leadership though.

[physioex]

12. That's right Joanne....

That's why I say we clean house as should the repukes...

[ProSense]

7. There were Democrats who supported the war. Clooney supported Kerry.

Kerry did not support the war.

$10,000 Democrat

OBAMA, BARACK (D) Senate - IL
OBAMA FOR ILLINOIS INC $2,000 09/15/04

BOXER, BARBARA (D) Senate - CA
BOXER / DSCC '04 $2,000 09/10/04

KERRY, JOHN F (D) President
JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT INC $2,000 03/03/04

CLOONEY, NICK (D) House (KY 04)
CLOONEY FOR CONGRESS $2,000 12/09/03

CLOONEY, NICK (D) House (KY 04)
CLOONEY FOR CONGRESS $2,000 12/09


http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/George_Clooney.php

[Yollam]

11. I Supported Kerry. I voted for him. I'm still furious at him.

I supported him with deep reservations on the hope that his election might save some innocent lives from the meat grinder of Iraq - no other reason. I never expected meaningful change from Kerry, but Bush was so bad that I went out and voted for him - even campaigned for him.

I never stopped being a Kucinich supporter, though.

[Lorien]

78. I felt exactly the same

I campaigned for him, I gave him money, I helped organized his rallies locally, I met him, spoke with him...but all along it was an ABB vote.Still there are plenty here who will attack me and call me a "Kerry basher" because I was disappointed in the candidate that I worked my ass off for and sacrificed a huge amount of my yearly salary for. SCREW them. We're allowed to feel damned disappointed. I don't know about you, but I didn't get to vote in any primaries-they were meaningless when they came to my state. I was a strong Kerry supporter when I had no other choice, but I'm praying for a candidate that I can truly believe in next time around.

[blm]

8. I personlly think Dems damage any hope when they pass off inaccurate

statements and rely on soundbites.

[cali]

18. LOL

Clooney's a lot less temperate than I was last night on the thread I started. And you're a lot more moderate in your criticism of Clooney than your criticism of what I wrote. Too funny.

[blm]

34. hey cali - where would DU be without us wrangling our views here?

One thing I would never doubt is the earnestness and sincerity of your positions even when I make that rare disagreement. ;)

[cali]

36. Back at you, blm

I'm keenly aware that we share far more than that which separates us.

[ClassWarrior]

9. Isn't it ironic...

...that you choose the exact moment that Senator Feingold is smacking down your President to post this?

LOL

NGU.

[Yollam]

13. Not really.

It's illustrative of the difference between a democrat (Feingold) - and whatever it is the pro-war dems really are.


...and please refrain from calling him "my" president.

*I* did not vote to support his illegal slaughter of Iraqis and American troops.

[ClassWarrior]

14. Oh, is that what it is??

:eyes:

LMAO

NGU.

[mike_c]

22. I presume Clooney's remarks don't extend to Feingold...

...since Feingold isn't one of the cowards who voted for the IWR.

[mike_c]

16. hey yollam-- can you provide a link...

...to a dem congress critter who actually said "The IWR stipulated that Bush come back to the Congress again before invading?" I don't mean that as a challenge, more as a matter of curiosity. Even just a name. I've seen that statement by DUers, but not actually by anyone in congress.

This appeal is general, BTW-- if ANYONE can provide that link it would be much appreciated.

The reason I'm so interested is that it would be a blatant lie for anyone in congress to make such a statement. The IWR is short and easy to read-- I'd urge anyone who hasn't read it to do so-- http://www.yourcongress.com/ViewArticle.asp?article_id=2686 -- and it actually calls on Bush to do very little (contrary to what some have suggested, it doesn't even call for any future diplmacy after October 10, 2002). It simply gives him a blank check for a war of aggression under the War Powers Resolution of 1973, essentially substituting for a declaration of war, and requires only that he send congress a letter announcing the invasion within 48 hrs (Sec. 4 has a further reporting clause, but 4(b) undermines it). For anyone in CONGRESS to suggest otherwise is somewhat shocking if they actually read the IWR.

[Yollam]

19. I do not have such a link. Maybe some of the Kerry/Clinton defenders do.

And skimming through that, it does look an awful lot like a blank check...

[mike_c]

26. bummer-- I'd love to get my hands on one-- and yeah...

...it's an utter get-out-of-jail-free card. I wonder how many people have actually read it, and especially from the perspective of a legislative document in which language is everything? Unless it says "the president shall" he isn't compelled to do anything for congress-- not even respect them in the morning....

[harpo]

17. I agree with Mr. Clooney, that's why I'm against Kerry & Clinton

[TahitiNut]

20. I subscribe to Clooney's FU 100%.

I destest moral cowardice no matter what the 'pragmatic' rationale. We marched in October 2002 - many tens of thousands of us took to the streets - and it was absolutely no mystery to us. Misled? BULLSHIT!

This wasn't merely 'pro-war' ... it was pro-rape, pro-plunder, pro-imperialism, and anti-international-law.

[PassingFair]

28. Can he SAY that?

Won't he get stoned for telling the truth?

They SHOULD HAVE KNOWN that their cowardice would
come back and bite them in the ass. They DID know.
We ALL knew.

[TahitiNut]

41. Well, the Cult Defenders of IWR 'Yea' votes are looking for rocks.

Even as one who voted for Kerry, I said then and I say now: He blew the election when he voted 'Yea.'

The perverted and illicit 'logic' of "we were assured he'd exhaust UN options" just doesn't hack it. Not at all. That means they had time before they needed a resolution at all! There was no 'imminent' threat or reason for haste ... or any reason to act legislatively at the time they did. Without that reason, only a 'No' vote suffices. The sole rationale for having the IWR vote prematurely was to have the specious fig leaf. Pure deceit.

[zulchzulu]

27. Looks like Clooney needs to stop staring at the mirror & do some homework

The IWR would not have allowed for inspections to occur. Nowhere in the IWR did it say that Chimpy could attack Iraq unilaterally, illegally...

To say Kerry is "pro-war" proves that he is a political amateur. Did Clooney not want inspections to happen? Does he even know that the IWR stipulated that? Does he care?

[sandnsea]

29. F-U to Dems who don't pay attention

And know that many Democrats have said their vote was wrong and have done nothing but hold Bush accountable for the disaster in Iraq from the beginning. And F-U to any idiot who doesn't understand that they are complicit in letting Bush get away with his lies every single time they repeat the BUSH FRAME, "voted for the war".

[politicasista]

30. LOL!

Amen. :applause:

[harpo]

31. yeah...like the ones who voted for the war

[bpilgrim]

39. you don't get more plugged in than DU and we agree with clooney

sounds like the dems got a huge perception problem, they need to be more like dean, imho, no one thinks he rolls over for the neoCONs.

peace

[sandnsea]

44. oh bullshit

People on DU are no more immune to repeating hype and lies than anybody else in this country, including Howard Dean. He started this assinine "voted for the war" shit, when he should have been focusing on Bush not living up to the diplomatic requirements of the IWR.

[bpilgrim]

49. i say we are 1 of the most plugged in audiences in america & u say 'BS'

i say the dems have a perception problem & you say 'BS'

i think your response is indicative of the communication problem of many of our leaders today.

won't listen to weTHEpeople and blame everyone but themselves...

reminds me of a 6yo.

thanks for helping to illustrate my point.

:toast:

peace

[sandnsea]

50. You assume YOU and DU are THE people

You're not. And the left has distorted the Iraq war and the WMD intelligence almost as much as the right. For instance, the fact that no official, including Scott Ritter, ever said they knew to a certainty that there was no WMD in Iraq. Or that Bush himself said it wasn't a vote for war. Or that Saddam retracted his inspections proposal. Or that the UN voted FOR an Iraq resolution AFTER the US resolution. A whole host of things that the far left regularly distorts for its own political agenda. It's nothing new. It's not a matter of perception or communication, it's just a fact. Most people know it, that's why the far left is not and never will be a political force.

[bpilgrim]

57. No Bravery

http://nobravery.cf.huffingtonpost.com

you need serious help on your so called 'facts' but just look at the facts on the ground for a moment.

psst... pass the word :hi:

peace

[sandnsea]

59. Truth is always brave

Even when you dare to roam into the ranks of the far left and call them out on their own brand of "truthiness". I see it on DU on a daily basis, there's a regular disconnect with the facts around here. I don't have them wrong.

[bpilgrim]

60. "Saddam retracted his inspections proposal" big fat neoCON lie

the UN has called this war ILLEGAL, hello...

the rest of your spin was just that, spin... guess what though, we got a paper trail on DU, this ain't FAUX NEWS where you can get away with your spin.

after 5 years on this board i have learned that whenever someone calls you a 'far leftist' you won.

fyi

peace

[sandnsea]

61. Still negotiating on 9/15/2002

As the IWR was being written, Iraq was still attempting to negotiate the terms of the inspections. They would say full inspections one day, then turn around the next and demand restrictions or concessions. That is just the fact of what happened, a fact the far left, yes the far left, never talks about.

"Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz said his nation would allow inspectors to return only if the United States doesn't bring military action and if U.N. sanctions are lifted."

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/09/15/powell.aziz.iraq/index.html

This happens ALL the time, the far left has even gone after Kucinich at times. The far left is great at ripping everybody up, but has no solutions, therefore they don't have to answer to any consequences. Like a bunch of 6 year olds.

[bpilgrim]

62. He let the inspectors in AND the U.N. noted that this war is ILLEGAL

hello...

peace

[sandnsea]

63. Yep, just change the subject

This is about the IWR and the inspections. Saddam did not let the inspectors in before the IWR and I just showed you that he never even agreed to. But that's typical far left "truthiness"; when caught "misleading", change the subject.

[bpilgrim]

64. He let the inspectors in AND the U.N. has said this war is ILLEGAL.

and we all knew they manipulated intel to get their war on and our 'leaders' just went along for the ride either because they were SCARED, CLUELESS or in on it.

but i know, i know, that is all old news, time to move on, eh and besides they would have fought the illegal war better :eyes:

peace

[sandnsea]

68. I just posted the damned article

How does your mind work that you can just ignore what is right in front of your face??? This is about the IWR, not the war.

[bpilgrim]

70. to those who voted for the IWR, FUCK YOU!

is that clear enough fer ya?

this isn't JUST about that single cowardly vote, it is about the YEARS of spinelessness to the bush crime family before but especially since that vote.

most of them acted COWARDLY that day and continue to do so to this very day and if they can't stand the heat they can get the fuck out of the kitchen.

you want to say it is all in our heads, fine, just remember, perception is EVERYTHING.

i hope the leaders wake the fuck up.

Band of Brothers (video)
http://www.bandofbrothers2006.org/2006/03/video_wmv.php

peace

[sandnsea]

74. See, you really don't care about the facts

You make up your mind and fit the facts to around that conclusion, and then it's a big "go fuck yourself" when somebody points out the errors. Just like I said.

[bpilgrim]

77. nonsense, i have been following these spineless 'leaders' for years now

they have rolled over for the WORST criminal admin in our nations history for 5 years and counting now... and we got a paper trail to prove it. (thank gore he 'invented' the INTERNETs)

if your argument made any sense what so ever they would have been up in arms as soon as the neoCON thugs invaded yet that never happened... the best we get, to this very day, is they would have fought the illegal war better :puke:

i say bullshit, the U.N. has declared this an ILLEGAL WAR name 1 senator who has owned up to this fact.

peace

[sandnsea]

79. Can't stick to the topic

This is about the IWR. You absolutely refuse to stick to the facts of it and throw a temper tantrum instead.

You want to switch to the UN, they didn't declare it an illegal war. Kofi Annan said he thought the war was illegal, the UN didn't declare anything.

Why can't you make your case with the truth? Every time the far left lies, the rest of the party has to deal with those lies AND the lies from the right in order to try to get the facts to the people. Perhaps if the left didn't lie so damned much, the rest of the Democratic Party would have been able to convince the people of the truth of the war and prevented it.

[bpilgrim]

84. the topic is the dem COWARDS who won't stand up to the worst admin EVER

they couldn't do it YEARS AGO & they STILL can't.

wtf is the matter with them :shrug:

peace

[sandnsea]

88. No, it's lies and hype about the IWR

And the FACTS leading up to it.

[bpilgrim]

95. It is about the PITIFUL track record of the spineless dems for 5 years

and counting.

fyi

peace

[nolabels]

72. The iwr is old news

Frankly any fool that is still in U.S military at this point in time deserves everything rim job they get. The red herring of who in hell voted for anything anymore is mute. Most of us here are pretty sure the last two if not three national elections were stolen. What are you, they, us (or however you want phrase it) going to do about it?

The country we knew and loved is gone. The glimmer of some dream about it might live on but thing to understand is we will never be able to go back to where we were before knowing what we know now.

[sandnsea]

75. The OP says "voted for the war"

That's what the thread is about, specifically. You want to talk about stolen elections, go start another thread.

[nolabels]

81. Yea and it's nice to tell people to eff themselves too

Mr. Cloony is a couple light years behind but it's nice to see one or two picking up on the clues mashing the cliches aside

Getting mired in some philosophical debate about what ifs from years ago serves about zero purposes. Mostly watching the track record from what did they do for us then as compared to what was done in the present it's quite plain that the leopard has kept his spots. Nothing has changed in that aspect and will not change until enough people are willing to stand up and say enough is enough.

Btw I don't need another thread to debate stolen elections here either, there is a whole other forum for that. The main point I was making is that the thread was about saying FUCK YOU and the vote for iwr was just a jumping in point, but I would be willing to debate that if you like

[sandnsea]

83. Way back at post #44

And for the last several years. Unless you're willing to acknowledge that every fact in post #44 is true, then there probably isn't much to debate.

[nolabels]

90. That is just the reason that F-U is not a good word to use for anything

* has not lived up to any agreement in his entire miserable life, Howard Dean is only a party operative and holds no elected office to hold anyone accountable but thing is, that mostly, most of all, is that most of the so called elected people at the federal level are just corporate toadies able to hold that position because the world corporate has found them innocuous enough to let em stay. I would rather understand than to disagree, so thanks for helping me understand.

[WillyT]

65. Um... List And Links Please ???

You said: "...many Democrats have said their vote was wrong (re: Iraq War)..."

Must have missed many of the many.

Can you please provide a list of the ones you are talking about, and links to support that assertion?

I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks.

:shrug:

[sandnsea]

69. Why? So you can ignore it too?

Every time one of them has said their vote was wrong, it's been posted; Feinstein, Kerry, Edwards... what good would it do to post it all again???

[WillyT]

71. Ok... Let's Try Numbers Then... You've Listed Three...

is it 5, 10, bigger then a breadbox, mightier than a steam locomotive???

Somebody here, or on some other blog, must have a tally going.

Sorry for poking fun, but you said, 'many' and that is definitely news to me.

Any help in this direction is appreciated.

:hi:

[sandnsea]

76. Biden, Murtha,

I have no idea, I can't remember them all.

But you do make my point that DU isn't interested in the facts of it any way, despite the claims that they want apologies, otherwise it would be readily known and acknowledged. It isn't, as you've just shown. DU doesn't care about facts, just childish ranting.

[WillyT]

80. Or... Maybe We Ought To Develop Our Own Set Of Pinned Talking Points...

So that when somebody, say you for instance, says that many Dems have admitted that their vote for the Iraq War was wrong, you could link to the Talking Points Forum where we could all benefit from the proof provided by the wealth of researching Dems and Progressives here on this board.

Now THERE is an idea, huh?

:shrug:

Cause I ain't here 24\7, and would love to be able to have YOUR facts at MY fingertips, no?

:hi:

[sandnsea]

82. Been in a cave for 6 months?

Because that's what it would take for you not to know what's going on. Sorry, I dont buy it. I don't even understand the necessity of playing the twisted little game, but whatever floats your boat.

[WillyT]

86. Ok... Ya Got 5...

It's a start. I'll try to find the rest when I get a chance.

Thanks ever so much for your help.

LOL

:wtf:

[sandnsea]

87. Lynch, Markey, Meehan

Dodd, Rockefeller, Harkin...

Am I really the only one on DU who cares about the truth??

[dansolo]

89. Edwards and Murtha

Edwards and Murtha are the only Democrats that I can recall that voted for the IWR, but later publicly, and without reservation, stated that they were wrong.

[sandnsea]

93. Well you're wrong

Which shows how "plugged in" DU is.

[ronnykmarshall]

32. Give him and Oscar and look at him.

All mouthin' off.

He needs a nice swat on the ass.

I'll do it!

[FrenchieCat]

67. LOL!

Get in line! :headbang:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

33. Clooney is absolutely right. "Misled" is pure CYA B.S..

The "Duh, I wuz fooled", is pathetic.

[mitchtv]

73. It is pathetic, howver I am prepared to forgive them, as long

as they change the term to "Bush LIED to us" and repeat it at least 12 times before the election (Penance)

[Hubert Flottz]

35. They are just like Bush...

Can't think of a single mistake they've EVER made!

[Johonny]

38. I don't understand his point

Clooney not needing to be elected has a lot more freedom to say what he really thinks the many in congress. I think "we were mislead" is about the best you are going to get. Given that many in Washington that stood up against the war lost in 2004, isn't it clear that until the American people wake up there is little Democrats can do.

[bpilgrim]

40. he is calling BS on their phony excuses that have cost the lives of many

i have been here pay'n attention since 2001 and i agree with him.

time to turn up the heat since the polls tell us the people are awake & thet are on our side on ALL the big issues.

peace

[Johonny]

54. Your right

clearly the state the country is in is all due to phony political posturing by the Democrats. It has nothing to due with the majority party. Once again Clooney fails to address the simple fact that the Democrats that voiced the loudest opposition to the war got burned. They got burned in 2002 and again in 2004. Currently the Democrats are sitting back and letting Bush hang himself. There is simply nothing politically to gain from trying a strategy that burned you twice before. Particularly when you can make a lame excuse and let all the press focus on the presidents continued disconnection from reality. To put it another way if I was a Democrat that did vote for the resolution am I worried about running against a anti-war republican? Answer... not really.

[bpilgrim]

58. we heard this all before in 04

i'm with clooney and the majority of america, we need radical change, ASAP.

to all the status quo dems i just got 1 thing to say...

FUCK YOU!

peace

[Yollam]

66. How do you figure?

It was go-along, get-along, Bush-loving dems like Daschle and Max Cleland that lost their seats. The vocal war opponents kept their seats. Hell, even Cynthia McKinney deservedly got her seat back.

So how is it that democrats who opposed the war got burned?

[Johonny]

94. Hey remember me

I'm Howard Dean. The canidate the doesn't like the war. Vote for me plz...

[Yollam]

100. Dean lost Iowa, then was destroyed by the media's "scream" campaign.

Kerry ran against the worst president in modern history and lost by 3 million votes. Are you saying that he would have gotten even FEWER votes had he voted against the war?

Nah, it was much better to vote against an obviously fraudulent war, especially with his vocally anti-war past. God forbid he ever come across as CONSISTENT.

[DerekG]

92. Yes, Paul Wellstone was *literally* burned for his opposition

Such is the way of things: principled individuals like Paul Wellstone are taken away, whilst politicos such as Madame Clinton and Joe Lieberman, both of whom never had a principle they wouldn't sell to Big Business, are expected to live into their nineties.

I just hope someone told Russ Feingold, Dennis Kucinich and John Conyers to stay away from small aircraft.

[Skittles]

48. DAMMIT I LOVE GEORGE CLOONEY

HE SPEAKS FOR ME !!!!!!! HE SPEAKS FOR ALL DECENT AMERICANS !!!!! *SWOON*

[Disturbed]

55. IWR

IWR

United States Senate

In the Senate, the 21 Democrats, one Republican and one Independent who courageously voted their consciences in 2002 against the War in Iraq were:

Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii)
Jeff Bingaman (D-New Mexico)
Barbara Boxer (D-California)
Robert Byrd (D-West Virginia)
Lincoln Chaffee (R-Rhode Island)
Kent Conrad (D-North Dakota)
Jon Corzine (D-New Jersey)
Mark Dayton (D-Minnesota)
Dick Durbin (D-Illinois)
Russ Feingold (D-Wisconsin)
Bob Graham (D-Florida)
Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii)
Jim Jeffords (I-Vermont)
Ted Kennedy (D-Massachusetts)
Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont)
Carl Levin (D-Michigan)
Barbara Mikulski (D-Maryland)
Patty Murray (D-Washington)
Jack Reed (D-Rhode Island)
Paul Sarbanes (D-Maryland)
Debbie Stabenow (D-Michigan)
The late Paul Wellstone (D-Minnesota) Ron Wyden (D-Oregon)

United States House of Representatives

Six House Republicans and one independent joined 126 Democratic members of the House of Re
Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii)
Tom Allen (D-Maine)
Joe Baca (D-California)
Brian Baird (D-Washington DC)
John Baldacci (D-Maine, now governor of Maine)
Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisconsin)
Gresham Barrett (R-South Carolina)
Xavier Becerra (D-California)
Earl Blumenauer (D-Oregon)
David Bonior (D-Michigan, retired from office)
Robert Brady (D-Pennsylvania)
Corinne Brown (D-Florida)
Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio)
Lois Capps (D-California)
Michael Capuano (D-Massachusetts)
Benjamin Cardin (D-Maryland)
Julia Carson (D-Indiana)
William Clay, Jr. (D-Missouri)
Eva Clayton (D-North Carolina, retired from office)
James Clyburn (D-South Carolina)
Gary Condit (D-California, retired from office)
John Conyers, Jr. (D-Michigan)
Jerry Costello (D-Illinois)
William Coyne (D-Pennsylvania, retired from office)
Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland)
Susan Davis (D-California)
Danny Davis (D-Illinois)
Peter DeFazio (D-Oregon)
Diana DeGette (D-Colorado)
Bill Delahunt (D-Massachusetts)
Rosa DeLauro (D-Connecticut)
John Dingell (D-Michigan)
Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas)
Mike Doyle (D-Pennsylvania)
John Duncan, Jr. (R-Tennessee)
Anna Eshoo (D-California)
Lane Evans (D-Illinois)
Sam Farr (D-California)
Chaka Fattah (D-Pennsylvania)
Bob Filner (D-California)
Barney Frank (D-Massachusetts)
Charles Gonzalez (D-Texas)
Luis Gutierrez (D-Illinois)
Alice Hastings (D-Florida)
Earl Hilliard (D-Alabama, retired from office)
Maurice Hinchey (D-New York)
Ruben Hinojosa (D-Texas)
Rush Holt (D-New Jersey)
Mike Honda (D-California)
Darlene Hooley (D-Oregon)
John Hostettler (R-Indiana)
Amo Houghton (R-New York, retired from office)
Jay Inslee (D-Washington)

[Ufomammut]

52. His view happens to be correct, however...

How to proceed in creating a better system?

[president4aday]

85. Clooney should put his $ where his M is & run for office. ...

[harpo]

99. he's putting it into a casino instead

[dogday]

96. Russ did not vote for the war

nor the Patriot Act.... Need I say more?

[WI_DEM]

97. Clooney is absolutely right--the vote just before the '02 election

was politically motivated and several democrats, I think, voted for the authorization because of it or because they were planning to run for president in '04 (Kerry, Edwards, Gephardt, ect) and didn't want to run as being soft on security/defense.