Very, Very UNIMPRESSED w dems over censure,FEINGOLD DRAWS LITTLE SUPPORT

[debbierlus]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060313/ap_on_go_co/feingold_censure

Worried about the election year 'consequences'...

Are they REALLY this stupid? Do they not realize this country HATES Bush and WANTS to see him held accountable?!

I am reaching my end. Over & over & over & over, a huge percentage of them do the wrong thing. They hand Republicans victory in horrible policies & appointments. And, except for a few FANTASTIC people, the rest are useless.

Alito.

Bankruptcy bill.

TWO STOLEN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS - Lord Knows how many stolen Senate & Congressional Races.

Now they are too intimidated to censure Bush? The man is a CRIMINAL. He needs to be impeached.

What a bunch of SPINELESS wimps. Every single one of them who betray their oath to the constitution.

[ClassWarrior]

1. Yes, DAMN THEM for wanting to use it as a catalyst for debate!!

:eyes:

NGU.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

2. Another Reason This Country Is Fucked!

We have a dictatorship folks. One party rule. Oh, there's an "opposition" party. If you actually can call it that with a straight face.

I see myself out of this country within the next 5 years. Amerika is pretty much a joke.

[ClassWarrior]

6. Bye.

If you don't feel you have it in you to fight, that's okay. We can find people strong enough to take up your slack.

NGU.

[Independent_Liberal]

37. Why do you bother hanging around here if you don't want to fight?

Do you not care about your country at all? Would really rather do nothing and sit back and watch it get trashed? If so, I'm sorry you feel that way. Your negative attitude and bitching and moaning like that helps nothing. It only makes a black hole bigger. What if you let your country get destroyed and there was a chance you could've saved it and you didn't act? Wouldn't you feel bad? You'll be remembered as a German who surrendered to tyranny. Not fighting at all is the same as conceding defeat early on before you even tried anything. Some fights take a while to win, but like they say, Rome wasn't built in a day. Not even attempting to put up a fight not only makes you look like a wimp, but it also makes you look complicit. You don't want to look complicit, do you? Somehow I feel deep down inside you don't really feel that hopeless. You're just frustrated by how shitty everything is, which is understandable. And when people get frustrated, they have a tendency to exagerate, be sarcastic, and say things they don't really mean. Am I right? I hope so. I really hope you do care about your country and don't want to see anything bad happen to it.

Like ClassWarrior said, if you do intend to move, we'll have somebody else come in and take up your slack. If stay you here and continue to post these defeatist posts and get everyone else depressed, I'm gonna have reach through the computer screen and cyber slap some sense into you. Ha! Just joking. Hope you didn't take that personally. :)

[DoYouEverWonder]

3. Sound like typical M$M spin the story for BushCo

bullshit.

We'll see what happens tomorrow.

[rocktivity]

29. The bit about the Dem "fear" of "alienating" swing voters

is what blew out my bullshit dectector. Georgie's approval rate is at fifty per cent or more in only SEVEN states (link)--WHAT swing voters???

:rofl:
rocknation

[CarlSheeler4U]

4. ...and the public they represent.

Vote a new breed of Democrat with backbones.

Carl

Sheeler for US Senate

www.carlsheeler.com

[rocktivity]

5. This is an AP story starring "Duck!" Cheney and avowed DINO Joe Lieberman!

in other words, it's borg journalism, MEANT to demoralize us. Resistance to the GOP is futile!

:crazy:
rocknation

[ClassWarrior]

8. I like that. "Borg Journalism."

:rofl:

NGU.

[liveoaktx]

12. Yup-I overlook ANYTHING Lieberman says-who cares? He's really

a Republican

[leftchick]

14. yes, LIEberman opens his piehole

and it is assumed by the M$M all Dems say the same. :eyes:

[Ian David]

25. I gave Lieberman's staffer a hard time today

I asked him what excuse Joe was going to use for voting with the Repukes this time.

He was less than amused.

But I didn't use the f-word.

I'm saving that for Byrd tomorrow.

[lillilbigone]

7. Don't be gullible. That article is Republican propaganda

disguised as news.

[EFerrari]

20. Yes, it is spin disguised as news.

Don't buy in.

:kick:

[JohnnyCougar]

9. How can they say this if almost zero Democrats have stated their position?

Only two Democrats are probably against it so far (Bingamann and Lieberman). This article is purposefully misleading to make Senator Feingold's position look weak.

[Ian David]

26. Kerry's office said he is for it. Kenedy's office said un-decided. n/t

[AndyA]

10. This is bullshit!

If the Democrats can't get it together and support something that obviously needs to be done, they ARE NOT DOING THEIR F*CKIN' JOBS. This makes them an accomplice to the criminal Bush in my opinion.

MESSAGE TO DEMOCRATS: GET OFF YOUR SORRY ASSES AND SUPPORT FEINGOLD - WE THE PEOPLE ARE SICK OF THIS SHIT!!!

[European Socialist]

34. here,here.

[montana500]

11. Pathetic, lol. That's all you can say.

"the thoughtful liberal act" is a great virtue when you actually have power. In an election year, it's an anchor around our necks.

[EFerrari]

13. It's frustrating but don't take the bait.

YOU are the party leaders. YOU need to contact your reps and insist they stand by Russ.

Don't allow the ho media to poison it for you.

YOU need to stand up now.

Let's move.

[ChiciB1]

15. I Know That Some Here Feel It's Uncouth To "Dis" Other Dems...

but tell me How The Hell are we EVER going to get the ball rolling with the likes of Leiberman?? I see him on the Senate floor and he seems to be con-fabbing with Repukes! I can't believe I supported him with Gore!! I know, his record doesn't show him to be such a RW'er, but I really do think he's make some kind of turn somewhere that way!

Even Harry Reid seems a little wimpy to me. I get emails from him all the time, but c'mon.. to coin a phrase from Mondale and the little old lady..."Where's The Beef?"

[ChiciB1]

18. Just Needed To Add That I'M NOT Giving UP!

Starting this Thursday, here in Sarasota County, we will be MARCHING 3 times against Cruella & THE WAR!!

The big one will be on Saturday the 18th! Anyone needing information check out this site http://floridaforpeace.blogspot.com or email [e-mail]

[FatDave]

32. I'd love to come march with you, but...

I'll be marching in Chicago that day. Maybe next time.

:silly:

[fla nocount]

31. "Dis" away with all your heart and soul.

I wear the concept "Dem" like a tie to a function with civilized folk. In reality I'm an anarcist ready to take it to the streets. I respond most readily to "populist" when it comes to mainstream labels.

I don't feel lonely here either, there are many like me. So don't pull your punches, the Lieberman's, Zell Millers, Bill Nelsons, et al are exactly what they appear to be and suffer no harm from being exposed in their girlie underwear with the little pink elephants cavorting about the waistband.

[ChiciB1]

42. I Feel Pretty RADICAL Myself...

One reason I'm marching and trying to keep it on EVERYONE'S front burner. To the point that my family instinctively knows NOT to start a political subject with me.

Oh, most of them are on my side, I just take it to the REACTIONARY level!! Sort of like how Graham Nash described Jackson Browne as being the Tar-Baby of activism. You get near me, and you might get stuck... I will most definitely try to drag you along... no matter what!!

[ClassWarrior]

35. Ain't a thing wrong with criticizing ANYONE, Dem or otherwise.

What's uncouth is, for example, using a steaming pile of Corporate Media propaganda like this to slam all Dems and the Party in general. That's just plain irresponsible.

NGU.

[blue cat]

16. Only Feingold and Kerry

have any spine.

[ClassWarrior]

36. Or they're the only ones who've bothered to inform you so far.

Just sayin'...

:shrug:

NGU.

[MellowOne]

17. If government was truly in the hands of the people

Bush would be out! This is sad beyond words.

[tjwash]

19. Yeah, I know.

I said this morning, that I was sitting here thinking not IF the dems toss Feingold under the bus on this, but WHEN.

Sad no?

21. they should have gotten behind it - what in the heck are they good for?

they don't try to enforce the law or make sure there is protection of constitutional rights - outrageous.

[Catchawave]

22. coming up on Hardball next....n/t

[high density]

23. Alienate "swing" voters--lol, you mean the 1/3rd of the country that still

loves Bush? Those are not "swing voters!"

The AP is whacked.

[NoodleyAppendage]

24. The money Dems will not support it because they don't want a strong Feing.

I guarantee that Hillary is working behind the scenes to poison the well. A strong Feingold makes her look weak and ineffectual. It doesn't benefit her to have Feingold as a viable competitor in 2008.

J

[Ian David]

27. Russ Feingold for Unitary Executive! Feingold / Boxer 2008! n/t

[AlamoDemoc]

28. This whole division is making me melancholy

So I'm off to listen Sarah Thompson's song "Message for Freedom":

Message for Freedom
by Sarah Thompson

Rulers of the nations as you fuss and fight
Over who owns the soil than who has the right
To design, build, sell and store and fire
All the bombs and guns to defend your holy empire
There are children, hungry children, sick and dying
There are mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers crying
They’re only pawns in your play of power and corruption
Slowly starvin your new weapon of mass destruction

And prove to me America that you care
And prove to me America you’re aware
Who’s dying for your freedom in this land
Who pays the cost for the liberties you demand
Is it for freedom or our comfort and convenience
Is it to profit for big business we pledge our allegiance

Are we prisoners in the land of the brave and the bold
Held by indifference or our hearts grown hard and cold
And prove to me America that you care
And prove to me America you’re aware
Who’s dying for your freedom in this land
Who pays the cost for the liberties you demand

[Ufomammut]

30. Dems = Weakest,lamest, sell-out "opposition" party

Any attempt to jump start it is short lived or is done for "show" only.
New World Order...

[Loge23]

33. If we do nothing else...

...we need to band together and take on a massive phone/letter/email campaign to each of the Dems that do not support Russ. AND KEEP IT UP!
I say enough is enough. It's time. Now.

[heirs_of_liberty]

38. Well if they won't stop censoring discussions here....

Of course Bush and Cheney are both criminals and even war criminals, but don't expect any of the CIA Military-Industrial Mafia's hand picked slates of political 'candidates' of either party to stand up for our Constitution or for the principles of anti-fascist 'liberty' if they value their cushy privileged jobs and fat donation cheques.

[sandnsea]

39. gosh, hearings and investigations

What a horrible idea to thoroughly investigate this so the public has a full understanding of what exactly happened. Vote for a censure tomorrow, it'll fail, and we'll have another scandal down the toilet.

[debbierlus]

40. How many times do the majority of dems have to betray us?

This article states Harry Reid will not endorse the censure or hasn't even READ it. Some minority leader. He can't muster the courage to challenge this criminal President and hold him accountable.

Why is it that you expect so little from your democratic party? What kind of salvation do you expect from a party that is afraid to speak out against a criminal President? That allows TWO Presidential elections to be stolen with nary a peep? Do you honestly think we will have honest elections this year? And, what will the dems do about it when they cheat?

I am going by THEIR track record.

Look, I am not saying not fight or abandon the democratic party. I believe that Progressives taking over the current democratic party is the best strategy for change. But, that is a long term plan. In the meantime, we have a status quo democratic party that is meek and ineffective. They have lousy political instincts. Going after Bush is a SMART political move. When are the dems going to stop waiting for the Republicans to lay out the debate and force one of their own?

Every single dem should be unified in the message. Bush broke the law. Republicans want to allow him to do it. Just like Russ said - THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS.

Our government HAS been taken over. Not in the process of being taken over. It HAS been taken over.

And, the democrats won't even point it out. Many won't even admit to themselves.

[ClassWarrior]

41. Then call your Senators and ask them this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2512789&mesg_id=2512789

NGU.