Big bad Rs say "boo", and Dems in Congress start running....

[Skidmore]

Damn them all to hell!!! The first thing I hear this morning on CNN is that Dems on the Hill begin "distancing themselves" from Feingold's censure motion. What is wrong with these people? What has to happen? * and his crew have handed them tons of fodder tied up in pretty packages with bows. One takes the lead and steps out and they all shoot him in the back.

[C_U_L8R]

1. Are the Dems really scattering???

or is it just more reichwing spin and wishful thinking???

I hope we see more calls for censure and impeachment.
How about one a day? Alright Dems... stand up !!
Stand up for yourselves. Stand up for us.. your constituents.
Stand up for your country and the constitution.
Stand up for what's right.

[acmavm]

2. Has anyone heard any of them step forward and defend Feingold?

Has anyone heard them step forward and defend us?

This is when we find out who's who and what's what.

[Skidmore]

6. You betcha, and I'm paying attention. I hope everyone else is too.

[RagingInMiami]

8. We said the same thing before the Alito confirmation

The same thing after the election was stolen for the second time.

The same thing after Katrina.

We need to face the facts. We're on our own. Feingold is on his own.

[mattclearing]

23. Biden said on the Today show that he though Feingold was

frustrated at the lack of accountability, and that when Nixon did similar things, necessitating FISA, they had committee hearings for a year, and that he himself (Biden) was there.

He continued to note that the Republicans haven't investigated anything, and that we have no idea what the wiretapping program entailed.

It wasn't a contradiction, but it wasn't a brilliant defense either.

But then, the primary season is starting early.

Katie almost caught him on the big question...she asked if Hillary would be a good candidate (Biden said yes), and then quickly asked, "then why are you running?"

Biden actually didn't get caught. He said something to the effect of, "I would be better, because I have the experience to get the American people through the times we face, and I think they are ready for a change...blahblahblah."

I don't like Joe Biden, but I was impressed at his quick turnaround. :D

[sandnsea]

3. Why does DU believe this lying media

After 5 years of talking about media control and the Bush butt kissing and squelching the Dem voice, why is DU always ready to believe anything that same media says about Democrats???

This resolution isn't even 24 hours old. They're reporting on the Frist vote, which is a GOOD thing that Democrats said no to. The censure resolution gets the wiretapping back in the news, which is what we want.

Why isn't everybody posting all the wiretapping stories and spying on Quaker groups and all of that instead of this Dem bashing media trash.

THIS is what happened to the Swift Boat story, this is EXACTLY what DU did when they could have been helping to push what the campaign did release.

Some people just never learn a damn thing.

[cornermouse]

7. Maybe its because we all watched and took note of how they

"supported" President Clinton.

[salin]

11. Or that the legislative "fix" for bush includes wiretapping

not related to terrorism - all protected from any court review.

My read is as yours - the retreat was on Frists attempt to get this done with quickly and off of the floor of the senate making discourse on the troubling program all disappear from the floor of the senate.

[pecwae]

12. It's discouraging to hear.

the knee jerk bashing. The media spin is so damn obvious. Feingold knew what would happen when he introduced the resolution and warrantless wiretap is the topic of discussion.

[Skidmore]

14. I don't think it is as simple as spin. It would have helped to have

other Dems IN the chamber when he presented this motion. A show of support for the man. I know Kennedy was around earlier to speak about his amendment to the appropriations bill, but did he stay? I'm not certain. Was there anyone behind him in the seats, at least?

[ladjf]

20. Are you trying to say that the Dems are supporting Russ but

that the media won't let them speak? If they wanted to support the motion, they have ways to do it. I have not heard one word of support for any Dem Senator.

[adigal]

22. I truly am beginning to believe the only ones our senators

support is themselves through their corporate bosses.

We need to get them to respond to the HUMAN BEINGS in their districts and stop thinking of us as some abstract constituency "out there."

[ladjf]

25. The Pubs are committing one horrible blunder and another

while the Dems absolutely refuse to capitalize on them. I don't have the foggiest idea why? But, it is very discouraging.

[OzarkDem]

18. If we have to do Dem senators jobs for them

which it appears that is what you're asking us to do, then perhaps they should resign and appoint rank and file Dems to their positions.

We're asking them to do their job. Its their duty and obligation.

[sandnsea]

29. Echo chamber

You're either echoing what is helpful in bringing down Bush, or echoing what is helpful in saving his ass. On DU it's usually the latter. And yes, you do have to do that, a handful of Senators can't do it by themselves.

[fed-up]

27. The issue has been around for months (illegal wiretapping) how long does

it take for these Dems to decide where they stand???

Are we at DU the only ones that can see *'s wiretapping is ILLEGAL???

Our leaders should have made their minds up on this issue months ago, what is with the footdragging here???

The resolution is on Feingold's website all clearly laid out. What more do the Dems want???

[Selatius]

4. The corporate news media provides a powerful ally to the right

Because the right is so enamored with big business and, unfortunately, several Dems who see nothing wrong with excessive amounts of corporate campaign donations to their coffers, it stands to reason that the corporate news media that is owned by elements of the big business community would be biased in their favor.

HOWEVER, it takes two to tango. No matter how bad the corporate news media can make you look, it's not nearly as bad as watching your own party remain mute or scatter. If the Democrats rallied behind Feingold, that's something even the corporate news media could not hide.

[Skidmore]

5. Amen. If they stood on the Capital steps in unison, it would be

a clear message. Just once I'd like to see them stand as a group and use clear language. The time as come for them to do this.

[aintitfunny]

15. Exactly my thoughts

The news media is indeed owned by Corporate Republicans. But I don't hear anything from our leadership and it is disheartening.

[JohnnyCougar]

9. This is the lousy spin from right wint news.

No one distanced themselves. They just haven't made up their minds yet.

[Hubert Flottz]

10. We need to distance our votes from the ones who are always...

distancing themselves! Looks like The REPIGS are doing a lot of distancing themselves from Bush on a lot of things, btw!

[Greeby]

13. You mean Dems in the Senate

Dems in the House don't run, especially the Black and Progressive Caucuses :evilgrin:

[OzarkDem]

16. News media in a panic

The headlines reflect a near-hysterical attempt to spin a situation that is gaining support and threatening to completely undermine Bush and the GOP in Congress.

Holding the president accountable when he breaks the law - what a concept.

All those Dem leaders in DC the news media had carefully brainwashed and groomed to obey are also at risk of having to take a stand on censure or face strong criticism from their constituents.

There isn't much left of the corporate conservative's house of cards, but its crumbling.

Pardon me while I go work on my phone calls to Dem senators to get them to support censure.

[adigal]

24. Was anything even in the NY Times??

The only power we have is in our numbers - call, fax, and march if we have to. One man cannot do it alone.

[MoonRiver]

17. I'm disgusted.

Feingold is the only Dem in the Senate I'll actively support for 2008. Sure I'll drag my arse to the polls and vote a straight Dem ticket, but that's about as much enthusiasm as I, currently, envision being able to summon up.
:puke:

[underpants]

21. I like Feingold a lot

and I think he will sell big time when people see how much of a straight shooter and an independent thinker he is.

[MoonRiver]

26. Yes, he's been winning me over for awhile now.

My husband too, who hadn't known much about him, except from me, until yesterday. That cinched it.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. Politicis as usual. Complete with the usual excuses for selling out.

[Kailassa]

28. Who says you can't have your cake and eat it?

All a dictatatorial group needs in a 2-party system is to have its own people take over both parties. The current Cabal are no more Republicans than they are Democrats, they are merely masquerading as both.