Wouldn't a Muslim

[DoYouEverWonder]

be seriously offended by this picture?



Isn't that why pictures like this a violation of the Geneva Convention on the treatment of prisoners?

[donheld]

1. Maybe it's because

A "muslim" took the picture of fellow "muslims"? :shrug:

[BlackHeart]

2. Could you explain

the context of the picture?

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. It was taken this morning in Jericho

Israeli troops have stormed a prison compound in the West Bank town of Jericho in an operation to arrest jailed resistance leaders.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8F1D3402-082D-41DA-B3A3-863947BB2DA7.htm

The picture was on the front page of al Jazeera but they've since changed it.

[BlackHeart]

6. I'm more confused now

"Israeli troops have stormed a prison compound in the West Bank town of Jericho in an operation to arrest jailed resistance leaders held over the assassination of an Israeli"

They stormed a prison to arrest people? Aren't people who are in prison already arrested?

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. Here let me add to your confusion

The prison was under British and American control. They warned them ahead of time to get the hell out. WTF?

[BlackHeart]

8. Good job of making my head spin

it was under control of Americans and Brits? Why? Who's land is this on? Israeli, Palestinian or someone else?

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. The Americans and Brits control the prison

by International Agreement. Jericho is in Palestine.

[Scurrilous]

9. IDF surrounds Jericho jail holding Ze'evi killers

<snip>

"Large numbers of Israel Defense Forces soldiers on Tuesday surrounded the prison in the West Bank city of Jericho where five Palestinian militants are jailed over the assassination of minister Rehavam Ze'evi in 2001.

IDF sources said the raid was being carried out in order to transfer the prisoners to an Israeli prison."

<snip>

"Witnesses said that an Israel Air Force helicopter launched a missile at the prison compound Tuesday afternoon.

An IDF colonel told reporters in Jericho that the main aim was to arrest those at the prison. Using a loudspeaker, the troops called on the militants in the jail to come out and surrender themselves."

<snip>

"He said that of 200 people inside, 44 have surrendered so far. He said the main targets of the raid, including those involved in the Ze'evi assassination, have not yet come out.

In a bid to pressure those inside into surrendering, IDF troops used machine-gun fire and tank shells on the prison Tuesday afternoon, and used bulldozers to knock down the walls."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/694059.html


Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

If you desire to transfer some Palestinian prisoners from a jail in Jericho to one inside Israel, you just go to that jail, ask the British and Americans who have agreed to guard these prisoners to leave, rake the jail with rocket, machine gun, and tank fire, and then start knocking the jail walls down with a bulldozer.

Who could have a problem with this? :shrug:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. I think the Geneva Convention

says that prisoners are to be treated with dignity. That they are not, that they are being held without trial, etc, is what is offensive-and should be offensive to everyone, not just Muslims.

[DoYouEverWonder]

5. Aren't they also suppose to

conceal their identities?

[Township75]

10. After the cartoon incident, I think it will be easy to know if they get...

offended.

[Karmakaze]

12. Actually you are wrong - pictures like that are NOT against the GC

What is against the Geneva Convention is PARADING prisoners to have their photos taken etc. The photos themselves are not what is at issue, it is the intention of the people holding the prisoners in custody. It would be equally against the convention to parade prisoners in front of cameras as it would be to parade them down a street full of people without any cameras present.

In this case it appears the prisoners have been photographed from long distance by a news organisation attempting to show how they are being treated - ie trying to DEFEND the rights of the prisoner.

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. Yes, I agree

and my original reaction was from just seeing the picture. Now that I've more information, what I am finding is even more disturbing.

It turns out that this prison is under British and American control. The Brits and Americans were warned 15 minutes ahead of the raid to get out.

One Palestinian security guard was killed and 18 others were wounded, as gunfire rang out and explosions rocked the area after Israeli forces on Tuesday pushed into the compound that houses the prison.

Bulldozers started to destroy the compound as Israeli troops called through loudspeakers on Ahmed Saadat, the leader of the leftist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and his comrades to surrender.

Speaking over a mobile phone from the prison, Saadat told Aljazeera: "We will not surrender - we will fight. Either we die or win."

Saadat and three other PFLP members have been jailed in Jericho, a prison under US and British supervision, since August 2002 after his faction claimed the 2001 killing of far-right Israeli tourism minister Rehavam Zeevi.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8F1D3402-082D-41DA-B3A3-863947BB2DA7.htm

In a sense this whole thing is one big photo op. There was no need to raid the place and bulldoze it. All the Israelis had to do would be to call ahead and ask them to turn over the prisoners in question. Why this show of brutal unnecessary force?

[Scurrilous]

14. "Why this show of brutal unnecessary force?"

It's election season in Israel.

What better way for acting PM Olmert to shore up his party's slipping poll numbers than a show of brutal unnecessary force against Palestinians?

I can't wait to see the overnights!!

[demosincebirth]

15. Looks like they're going in for a dip.

[LostinVA]

16. I know! That's what I thought it was a photo of, at first