A Different Kind Of Fascism (1967)

[meganmonkey]

A friend of mine printed this out from his friend's blog and thought I would be interested. I, in turn, think you all may find it interesting too...

Jim Garrison, Playboy Interview, October, 1967
"What worries me deeply, and I have seen it exemplified in this case, is that we in America are in great danger of slowly evolving into a proto-fascist state. It will be a different kind of fascist state from the one of the Germans evolved; theirs grew out of depression and promised bread and work, while ours, curiously enough, seems to be emerging from prosperity. But in the final analysis, it's based on power and on the inability to put human goals and human conscience above the dictates of the state. Its origins can be traced in the tremendous war machine we've built since 1945, the "military-industrial complex" that Eisenhower vainly warned us about, which now dominates every aspect of our life. The power of the states and Congress has gradually been abandoned to the Executive Department, because of war conditions; and we've seen the creation of an arrogant, swollen bureaucratic complex totally unfettered by the checks and balances of the Constitution.

In a very real and terrifying sense, our Government is the CIA and the Pentagon, with Congress reduced to a debating society. Of course, you can't spot this trend to fascism by casually looking around. You can't look for such familiar signs as the swastika, because they won't be there. We won't build Dachaus and Auschwitzes; the clever manipulation of the mass media is creating a concentration camp of the mind that promises to be far more effective in keeping the populace in line. We're not going to wake up one morning and suddenly find ourselves in gray uniforms goose-stepping off to work. But this isn't the test. The test is: What happens to the individual who dissents? In Nazi Germany, he was physically destroyed; here, the process is more subtle, but the end results can be the same.

I've learned enough about the machinations of the CIA in the past year to know that this is no longer the dreamworld America I once believed in. The imperatives of the population explosion, which almost inevitably will lessen our belief in the sanctity of the individual human life, combined with the awesome power of the CIA and the defense establishment, seem destined to seal the fate of the America I knew as a child and bring us into a new Orwellian world where the citizen exists for the state and where raw power justifies any and every immoral act. I've always had a kind of knee-jerk trust in my Government's basic integrity, whatever political blunders it may make. But I've come to realize that in Washington, deceiving and manipulating the public are viewed by some as the natural prerogatives of office. Huey Long once said, "Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism." I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security."
http://bloggn.petercase.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=EDD5A9E8-B5E7-3F32-9B66DC5F74C7AE1F

For some background on Jim Garrison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Garrison

[Dhalgren]

1. Jesus! What a great article! The man is dead on...

Thanks for posting this - K&R!

[MadHound]

2. Very wise words.

Too bad that his and others like him weren't heeded long ago. Otherwise we wouldn't be in the shape we're in now. Sadly, they weren't heeded, and here we are, plunging head first into a fascist state. We can still prevent this onrushing disaster, but the time to act is now. One step that would go a long way towards reversing this slide would be to enact nationwide publicly funded elections. Take the corporate dollar out of our government.

[leftchick]

3. even more appropriate in 2006

Isn't it depressing? :(

[meganmonkey]

11. Not necessarily

It also helps point out that if we are willing to look deeply into our current situation, we can make reasonable and accurate predictions about the future. And in doing so, we are empowered to actually try to fix things.

The most important lesson we need learn right now, IMO, is that we need to develop long-term strategies for taking our country back. We can't keep desperately grasping at short-term straws. We need to get over the fear of rocking the boat and get ourselves ready for huge, monumnetal changes over the next decade or two. Obviously the people who have succeeded in taking the power away from the people in this country have been working on it for decades. Winning an election or two, or triumphing on one issue or another is not enough to get this country back in the hands of the people who are supposed to run it (the citizens).

We need huge change, because we are facing a huge challenge that has been subverting our system for decades.

In peace and HOPE!!!!!

:patriot:

[leftchick]

21. megan I love your hope

and optimism. You make me smile. :)

[meganmonkey]

24. You just got me on a good day!

:P

[EVDebs]

26. See Joan Mellen's book A Farewell To Jusitce re Garrison

www.joanmellen.net

Great book. Proves the intell agencies were behind the assassination AND coverup. A MUST read. BTW, the truth will always win out. Always.

Please review the force behind the CIA, the Knights of Malta

Their Will Be Done
www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1983/07/willbedone.html

The eventual subversion of the Founding Fathers, who were mostly Freemasons in the grand tradition of the first three degrees which were originally from the Knights Templar, by subsequent infusions of occultism and aristocratic preferences, as the Jesuits planned in order to block the more pedestrian efforts of 'liberty, equality, fraternity' for the common man, were planned by the Knights Templar's main enemy the Knights Hospitaler, who eventually became the Knights of Malta. The Knights Hospitaler ended up getting most of the old Templar properties and wealth, hence the Peasant's Revolt in England as John J. Robinson points out, the Templars took their revenge on them with Wat Tyler in the lead. See the book review of

Born in Blood: The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/Born_in_Blood_Book_Review.htm

By the time of the Lutheran revolt against the Papacy in the 1500s, the Knights Templar were becoming more and more in the lead against the Papacy and aristocratic authoritarianism.

The Catholic Origins of Futurism, Preterism
www.aloha.net/~mikesch/antichrist.htm

and

"The French Protestants were called Huguenots: President George Washington had a Huguenot ancestor, as did at least 5 other Presidents: John Adams, John Quincy Adams, John Tyler, James Garfield, and Theodore Roosevelt. A Huguenot refugee named Apollos de Revoire settled in Boston, and had a son who signed his name Paul Revere! Remember his famous midnight ride? Three members of the Continental Congress - Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, and Elias Boudinot were Huguenots. Other great names include Francis Marrion, General George Patton, Clair Chennault, Admiral Dewey, Du Ponts, Henry Thoreau, Longfellow etc., etc. A Huguenot colony was founded in Florida in 1562 (years before the English landed), but was later destroyed by Spanish raiders."

St Bartholomew's Day Massacre
http://www.reformation.org/bart.html

This now morphs into the political situation we have today, with unwitting evangelicals becoming Bush's Base:

Their Beliefs are Bonkers, but they are at the Heart of Power
US Christian Fundamentalists are Driving Bush's Middle East Policy
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0420-03.htm

The Jesuit/KnightsOfMalta/OpusDei agenda to prevent revolutionary Freemasonry's essential anti-fascist secret agenda has worked. Freemasonry has been 'attenuated' through the Chavalier Ramsay/Jesuit infusion of post third degree Masonic 'occult' degrees, the better to smear the former Templars. Nowadays one looks back at what, exactly, the Founders were 'up to' with their Freemasonry and you would come to the conclusion that they could only have been made useless in any fight for Freedom and Justice For All.

The secret of the Templars, and their 'treasure', was always found within oneself. That was the Light they were after, not Third Temples in Jerusalem and self-flagellation and sacrifices. Micah 6 : 7-8

7 Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams,
with ten thousand rivers of oil?
Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression,
the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?

8 He has showed you, O man, what is good.
And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy
and to walk humbly with your God.

And the Freemason's stressing of tolerance in religion comes from Micah 4 : 5

5 All the nations may walk
in the name of their gods;
we will walk in the name of the LORD
our God for ever and ever.

[Greyhound]

4. K&R, Should be on the front page. just another "gift" of the

"law and order" sheep. Baa, baa... :kick:

[TallahasseeGrannie]

5. He was a prophet

[myrna minx]

6. K&R for this sage mans words from 40 years ago. n/t

:kick:

[heirs_of_liberty]

27. We were warned about a CIA Mafia long before this

"while we give no encouragement to the importation of foreign vices, we ought to be equally as careful not to create any. A vice begotten might be worse than a vice imported. The latter, depending on favor, would be a sycophant; the other, by pride of birth, would be a tyrant: To the one we should be dupes, to the other - slaves" Thomas Paine, warning us of the entrapping criminal corruption and tyranny of a foreseen Imperial Cold War Cabal either as a SS/MI6/KGB Mafia import, or worse as a home-grown "CIA" Military-Industrial Mafia. - Pennsylvania Magazine - 1775

In short, if our nation had no real enemies beyond a little pacification, it would be Job #1 at your CIA Mafia Fear Cabal to manufacture us some, and that is indeed precisely and exactly what it has always done for itself in spades! In fact they have been more than eager to lie, exaggerate and over blow the dangers of non enemies like the SOviet Union and Iraq and then turn around and coddle, underplay, lie about the sins of and shield the most vociferous of our other more dangerous natural imperial-conservative religious fascist enemies like Britain, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Pakistan just to keep itself a few spares on hand.

[heirs_of_liberty]

29. Our 2nd warning, long after Indepence from Anglican Fascist England

"I see in the near future a crisis approach which unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed." - Abe Lincoln

Likewise, Abe Lincoln also foresaw a "non-sectarian", illegal unconstitutional religous socialist Coalition of Fascist Totalitarian "Christianism" establishing a nondescript, subversive form of conservative, illiberal, homogenously hateful "Christian" Socialist Tyranny and thus destroying our Republic of Liberty in an unholy, hateful, destructive and exploitative alliance with elite noble conservative privatist forces.

[NewWaveChick1981]

7. Thank you SO MUCH for posting that!

Jim Garrison articulated that so well. Scares the hell out of me, but it's right on.

[heirs_of_liberty]

8. Been desperately tring to oint this out for years.

The issue is USC 50 (413) is totally unconstitutional and always has been. The rules governing Letters of Marque are clearly outlined in the Constitution, and since we imported a MI6 sycophant in the form of this illegal, criminal CIA Mafia we have created an illegal secret tyranny that has supplanted all means to control it.

There is no such thing as a 'finding-crime'!!

[Astrad]

9. This is fantastic! Thanks! n/t

[seemslikeadream]

10. You may pay for your silence with your life

Song of Choice

Early every year, seeds are growing
Unseen, unheard, they lie beneath the ground
Would you know before the leaves are showing
That with weeds all your garden will abound?

If you close your eyes, stop your ears
Hold your mouth, how can you know?
The seeds you cannot see may not be there
The seeds you cannot hear may never grow

In January you've still got the choice
You can cut the weeds before they start to bud
If you leave them to grow higher, they'll silence your voice
And in December you may pay with your blood

Close your eyes, stop your ears
Close your mouth and take it slow
Let others take the lead and you bring up the rear
And later you can say you didn't know

Everyday another vulture takes flight
There's another danger born every morning
In the darkness of your blindness the beast will learn to bite
How can you fight if you can't recognize a warning?

Close your eyes, stop your ears
Close your mouth and then you know
Let others take the lead and you bring up the rear
And later you can say you didn't know

Today you may earn a living wage
Tomorrow you may be on the dole
Though there's millions going hungry, you needn't disengage
For it's them, not you, that's fallen in the hole

It's alright for you if you run with the pack
It's alright if you agree with all they do
If the fascist's party slowly climbing back
It's not here yet, so what's it got to do with you?

The weeds are all around us and they're growing
It will soon be too late for the knife
If you leave them on the wind that around the world is blowing
You may pay for your silence with your life

Close your eyes, stop your ears
Close your mouth, they're never there
And if it happens here, they'll never come for you
Because they'll know you really didn't care

Peggy Seeger


"Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer, ein Volk"



One Hope, One people, One country, One leader.
One Hope, One people, One country, One destiny.

Stand up be brave my people we're here to stay, for a thousand years.
An oath you've spoken, can never be broken, you'll pay, in blood and tears
Never tire, never doubt, never falter, never slacken, Just believe in me.
Stand up, shout loud, stand proud, in what we will we will achieve.

One Hope, One people, One country, One leader will set you free
One Hope, One people, One country, One destiny for a thousand years

Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk.

It's not enough just to say you love your country, its not enough.
It's not enough to get down on your knees and pray, it's just not enough.

The price is high, the price you have to pay is your freedom, surrender yourselves.
Mothers send me your blue-eyed blonde-haired boys and let me see them, blue-eyed blonde-haired boys.

One Hope, One people, One country, One leader will set you free.
One Hope, One people, One country, One destiny for a thousand years.

Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk.

One Hope, One people, One country, One leader will set you free
One Hope, One people, One country, One destiny for a thousand years.

[Laelth]

18. Nice graphics.

Especially the body-pile comparison. Quite good. :thumbsup:

-Laelth

[AuntiBush]

39. The Similarities are Chilling...

We're so close its terrifying. Your post is profound and reveals the truth!

[seemslikeadream]

42. Thanks AuntiBush

I've decided to put it in my journal because of your thoughts

[AuntiBush]

45. Add this...

Look-up "Social Darwinism" and its connection to how Nationalism led to World War I and II. Trust me, it explains a lot of whats going on right now. It's literally eerie, the similarities. Try Wikipedia online for reference.

[Little Star]

12. How True K&R

[LisaLynne]

13. Wow.

Great article. Thanks for posting it.

I've always said that the reason they will get away with turning the US into a fascist state, if they haven't already, is because it will be under the radar of most people. Most people are waiting for the camps and the swastikas and they don't realize that by prosecuting activists, shutting down dissent, and turning the flag into some sort of quasi-religious symbol, they have developed their own MO of fascism. It doesn't have to look exactly like Nazi Germany in order for it to be a totalitarian, fascist regime!

[meganmonkey]

16. Yep - and by treating folks like Cindy Sheehan

the way they have been lately, they are effectively stifling other potential activists from getting involved. I wonder how many people who were thinking about going to NYC in April for the protest are reconsidering it, without even consciously recognizing why?

This is why we must keep vigilant, we need to exercise our rights while we have them, and expose the enforcers who are trying to silence us.

:patriot:

[radio4progressives]

23. Hear ! Hear!

:applause: :loveya:

[Just Me]

14. He was right.

;( "concentration camp of the mind" :scared: soooo true

[Dr. Jones]

15. Excellent, thanks.

Wow! I'm just VERY GLAD Oliver Stone made JFK when he did. They got the REAL Jim Garrison actually acting in the movie, just before he died.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

17. Forty years ago he saw this coming. Amazingly accurate. nt.

[leftstreet]

19. "concentration camp of the mind "

"...mass media is creating a concentration camp of the mind that promises to be far more effective in keeping the populace in line."

How true!

:scared:

[Ufomammut]

20. Garrison was sooooo "tinfoil!"

[radio4progressives]

22. Very Prescient Article...

too bad it was allowed to fade in the dust all these decades..

glad to see it re-emerged now, though i'm afraid it's a bit too late..

no thanks to Congress and the CM.

[New Earth]

25. replying so i can read later

when not at work....

[TheUnspeakable]

28. Great article! k&r-love this quote..

"In a very real and terrifying sense, our Government is the CIA and the Pentagon, with Congress reduced to a debating society. Of course, you can't spot this trend to fascism by casually looking around"

Our government IS the Pentagon and the CIA-poppy Bush's CIA-filled with "goons", "killers",
"jackals" (these are not my terms, but people on the inside's terms.)

[RazzleDazzle]

30. depressingy prescient

damn

[katty]

31. this says it all

[Raydawg1234]

32. yes, but what are we gonna do about it???

[Ufomammut]

34. Denounce it as "tinfoil"

Ignore the obvious and carry on with "politics as usual," ..ya know, it's the American way...

[Raydawg1234]

33. "But I've come to realize that in Washington,

deceiving and manipulating the public are viewed by some as the natural prerogatives of office."

Very true, seems like that is all Bush knows how to do.

[Octafish]

35. Thanks, meganmonkey! Here's a link to Jim Garrison's Playboy interview.

From JFK Lancer, the article:

http://www.jfklancer.com/Garrison2.html

From Fletcher Prouty, hear Garrison on the subject:

http://www.prouty.org/

Wonder if Jim ever saw this?

http://www.internetpirate.com/bush.htm

[meganmonkey]

37. Great links

Thanks Octafish! Yeah, the document at the last link there is pretty remarkable! I've seen it before, I think on your fabulous BFEE posts!

Peace!

[Octafish]

46. ''Friendly Fascism'' by Betram Gross

You're welcome, meganmonkey!

Here's more food for thought from a professor who taught friends of mine:

Friendly Fascism

The New Face of Power in America

by Bertram Gross
South End Press, 1980, paper

"As long as an economic system provides an acceptable degree of security, growing material wealth and opportunity for further increase for the next generation, the average American does not ask who is running things or what goals are being pursued."
Daniel R. Fusfeld

Introduction, Rise and Fall of Classic Fascism
The Takeoff Toward a New Corporate Society
The Mysterious Establishment

The Specter of Friendly Fascism
Subverting Democratic Machinery
Impossibility: It Couldn't Happen
Quotations

SOURCE w all the links a-workin':

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Friendly_Fascism_BGross.html

[0rganism]

36. Reminds me of that Sinclair Lewis quote

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross."

Uh... yep.

[meganmonkey]

38. Kick

for the evening crowd

:kick:

[Clara T]

40. Be interesting to see entire interview

I've tried to locate the interview in the past without success.

[meganmonkey]

41. See Octafish's post #35

He has a way with finding things :)

[Clara T]

44. Two Interesting Quotes

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles
to restore order . Tomorrow they will be
grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an
outside threat from beyond , whether
real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that
all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one
thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this
scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee
of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." -Dr.
Henry Kissinger

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time
Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended
our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty
years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the
world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those
years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to
march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an
intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national
autodetermination practiced in past centuries." -David Rockefeller,

[Minnesota Libra]

43. OMG written in 1967 and yet could have been 2006 too, OMG......

.....that is truly scary and very telling of our society. Thanks for sharing this.