If Dems can't handle *, they can't handle terrorists--a VALID construct!

[rudy23]

I am so ashamed of the Democrats in congress not backing up Feingold on censuring the president. It makes me think they truly would be too weak in dealing with terrorists, and leaders of terrorist sponsoring states.

They are flat out getting bullied around, and no one is doing a damn thing about it. When a rogue Democrat does stand up to the bullies, all the other Dems try to shush him up--"Not so loud, they might hear you! You don't want to make them mad, then they'll really let us have it"

You think any of these clerics and demagogues in the Middle East play fairer than Karl Rove? I'm sick of hearing about how Karl Rove is so mean, and the press is so unfair, when so many Dems aren't doing a DAMN thing constructive towards taking our country back.

Either these are the most spineless group of people we've ever put in congress, or THEY'RE NOT REALLY ON OUR SIDE. Check out the way they've voted on the Patriot Act, Roberts & Alito, eminent domain , force in Iraq, force in Iran, campaign finance reform, bankruptcy bills, etc., etc.

We are the rabble to them, just like to the Repukes, and they baffle themselves trying to guess how the rabble is going to think. When they're not talking to us like a bunch of kindergarteners, they're conducting god-forsaken focus groups to figure out how John Q Public thinks, or how the "fly-over states" think.

No, I'm not a troll, and I'm not here to divide people. Just an extremely frustrated Democrat who feels completely unrepresented. It really looks like the Dems are trying to lose, and I'm getting sick of defending them.

[DebbieCDC]

1. Share your frustration

I am beyond disgusted with the spineless, cowering, whimpering democratic party. I will NEVER AGAIN give one red cent to their fundraising appeals until I see a REAL democrat (like Howard Dean, Russ Feingold, or more of that ilk) running the show. Until then what passes for a democratic party can go straight to hell along with their rethuglican pals & corporate backers.

[displacedtexan]

2. I hear what you're saying-- all of the time!

I worked for the Kerry campaign (beginning in the summer of 2003),
and all I've heard from most Dems (almost every single day) since the swiftboat attacks is:

If I can't trust Dems to stand up for themselves,
how can I trust them to protect me from terrorists?

I think your analysis of the problem is spot on.

[bryant69]

3. You mean Frist

I mean it was Frist who wanted the vote right away. Bill Frist, who some call the cat killer? He's the one who moved up the vote, in order to embarrass and humiliate Fiengold. So they got it pushed back a bit - probably a good move.

Bryant
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[Drum]

4. I'm with ya!

I think your point is analogous to "Charity begins at home"....

In this case I/you/we are sick of such timidity, and I utterly agree that if the Dems can't find the spine to enforce the Constitution here at home (they're abdicating their responsibilities!) then why in heavens name should we believe they can do any better with other grave matters of security?

[elehhhhna]

5. Hate so say I agree with you, but you have a helluva point.

[JuniperLea]

6. I don't see it that way at all!

Delaying the censure is a good sign, imho! They need to huddle on this and get all their ducks in a row! Just the fact that Frist tried to get a yay nay vote right away shows that there needs to be some preparation. The Pukes would have loved to see it go to vote right away... that should be the only thing you need to know to show that a delay is good.

[gordianot]

7. I never thought of it that way, you have a valid point on terrorists.

I am getting tired of the phone calls to dead head public servants, petitions that go no where, on line posts preaching to the choir, Democrats asking for money and donations then bowing to vote fraud, prosecutors going after Government crime at a snails pace, and the assault on the Constitution. I'm fed up.


By the way I am not afraid of terrorists.

[NanceGreggs]

8. I also HATE to have to agree ...

... but I do, wholeheartedly.

You only need ask yourself this question:

If every Democratic senator and congressman was up for re-election against ANOTHER Democrat, how likely would you be to KEEP the current line up? Half of it? A quarter of it? A tenth of it?

I'm afraid that with the current spineless crew, I personally wouldn't vote for more than a handful of them.

[MrModerate]

9. And what's worse, the 'Licans can smell it . . .

They know Dems are spineless, and consequently, that 'Licans get away with anything.

It also feeds 'Licans' assumptions that they're inherently superior to Dems (and to anyone left of their perception of where the "center" is), and being superior, must be correct in how they see the world.

Yep, if you can't stand up to the cat killer, how can we trust you to stand up to truly evil people? Leadership is more than just ideas, it's courage, too.

[rudy23]

10. Leadership is more than just ideas, it's courage, too.

That's an awesome quote. That should become a mantra in Democratic campaign circles. It doesn't take brains to have courage, and sometimes, having too keen an awareness of the dangers of a particular endeavor can stifle someone to the point of inaction. I think this is why many people criticize egg-heads, ivory tower types, etc. I hate to sound like one of them, since anti-intellectualism is the bane of my existance, but dammit, they have a point! Brains + courage.

I'm also hoping, like many, that this is all part of an elaborate design, and our patience will pay off when we execute a perfectly timed blitzkrieg this summer. Didn't many of you have that feeling during the Kerry campaign as well, though? And HE'S one of the Dems who actually has balls!

I'm surprising myself with how Archie Bunker I'm going to sound, but the Democrats need some lessons in the psychology of team sports. Let's let some of our Senators throw on some boxing gloves and spar for a few minutes a day. I'm serious.

There's a psychology to competition that the Democrats just do not have a grasp on, that the Repubs have mastered. The Dems need a remedial class on alphas vs betas, and the importance of having that killer instinct. The man with broad shoulders, a strong jaw, and a commanding voice will trump a well constructed argument, whether it's right or not. We can no longer deny man's animal nature, which Rove and co. have so expertly exploited. If not the boxing ring, let's show them some Discovery channel documentaries, or something.

Politics is a human game with human rules, just like football, baseball, chess, boxing, wrestling, etc. It's not so silly to suggest that exercising that tactical muscle in the brain is good for a politician. Politics is a game, and we're trying to treat it like a science. The object is to WIN--then make the country better. Until the Dems show me they have this tactical ability, I think it's valid to question their ability to play on the world stage. PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG DEMS!

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Hence why I keep saying, there is collusion at the highest levels

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