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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:51 PM
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Other than those live near him, does anyone care if the bouncer person
is arrested or charged or anything about him? This is a local news story, I couldn't care if he marches in the St. Pat's day parade. Why do they think we care about this crap?


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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:52 PM
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1. um...
who? :shrug:
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:52 PM
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2. I must not, because I have no idea what you are talking about
and really don't care to ask.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:55 PM
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6. I think the OP is referring to that New York "torture murder,"
or, at least, that's what the corporate media is calling it.

The Rita Cosby's of the world have been trying to get us all to look over at "that shiny" murder over there instead of how crappy the Bush Administration is. It's not working so much this time. Thankfully.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:53 PM
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3. I must not care because I have no idea...
what/who you are talking about!
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:55 PM
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4. some bar worker who killed someone in NYC this month n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:55 PM
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5. This story is of interest to people in MA and NY
At best, it is a regional (TRISTATE area/New England) news story. The vic was from MA, the alledged perp from NY. Unless the latter individual has felonies spanning the nation, it really is a local/regional story.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:57 PM
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7. I'm so sorry that you do not care.
That is surely your problem.

Me, since I worked at John Jay, the knowledge that one of the graduate students was murdered matters to me a little. That the murderer was discovered by excellent criminal procedural work that can be used to comfort the students and provide a lesson in their classrooms also matters to me a little.

Each man's death diminishes me. You, I guess, are fine.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:01 PM
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10. Then that would be part of your local news

That is what I said this is.


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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:05 PM
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12. If was the manner in which
the girl was killed that made it a national story.It was not a pleasant way to go.They thought at the time it may be a serial killer thus national news.If the police get the news out and there were similar crimes in distant places maybe they could get a lead.
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 07:13 AM
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28. We would have a 24-hr Murder Station if we reported all stories like this.
I think the poster's point is this might be an "overdone" story like Laci Peterson. Why don't we show as much concern for all the other victims who die of murder? Do we care about those people less? Why do we care about this particular victim more? Does primarily highlighting her story diminish the importance of the other unreported victims?

Those are questions I have, too.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:58 PM
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8. from Left Coast and tired of the media focus to East Coast
even sports coverage is biased to East Coast..
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:59 PM
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9. They don't care if we care.....
It's police blotter stuff with a dead white girl....It takes up space so they don't have to report any real news...
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:04 PM
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11. She was not a 'white chick'
I believe she is of Filipino ancestry. Yes, it's big news here in the NYC metro, but I do have one question: whose semen was it (since it does not match the bouncer's)?

There are a few bits that don't quite match, but that's what will be sorted out, I guess.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:12 PM
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13. This is a very important story
So, the bouncer was a five or six time felon. It took two weeks for the police to find items that they say show the guy's cat's hair and his DNA on blood. But the semen doesn't match. The woman was tortured and raped and murdered. If you have any people doing things like that wherever you live, would you let us know? Thanks.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:39 AM
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21. There was a child stolen today here

is that something you think should be covered all over the cable news networks?

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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:54 AM
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22. Yes, that's what cable news networks are for
Glad it wasn't your child, but it's still a big story.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:56 AM
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24. I don't raise children n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:15 PM
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14. The REAL story should be about how many young women
seem to be venturing out into the world without the proper wariness.. Somewhere along the line, all of these young women who end up victimized, have parents who probably wish they had spent a bit more time trying to tell them about how personal safety is the thing they need to pay the most attention to...and that partying is OK, BUT you must NEVER party alone, or let your friends leave...or ever leave a friend.. There is safety in numbers, and apparently most of these missing/murdered women let their guard down... alcohol does that to you :(
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:39 PM
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15. Yeah, and what are they saying about the semen DNA..didn't match.
This story should be ignored. As soon as it appears on my TV, i click it off.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:44 PM
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16. I care.
I'm a bit of a true crime junkie though.

I do think that this murder is a bit more newsworthy than most, because the randomness and brutality involved pointed towards this being a serial killer. And I'll criticize the news until the cows come home, but the fact is that a potential serial killer anywhere is newsworthy.
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:48 PM
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17. LOL me too, crime/civil rights junkie
Remember his blood dna on the binds was "invisible" and you really don't want me to go into animal hair dna - or more accurately mtdna and the databases they work with...

Yet the semen dna is different - the owners lied, and a homeless man saw him and her (including her jewlery) from across four lanes. :) You bet I'm following this one.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:52 PM
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18. It's a very curious case
And the current suspect doesn't fit the profile, which makes it even more curious.

So far I've only been loosly following, but I plan on reading up on the paticulars tonight.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:10 PM
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19. these types of stories remind me of Chandra Levy
and how that was all the media covered back in late 2001. The Taliban was holding that American girl and her friend hostage, the Northern Alliances Lion of the Panjshir, Ahmed Shah Masood had been assassinated. But all the freaken media could Spout was Chandra,Chandra,Chandra. My god, they made me near insane. Faux news even dragged in some Psychic bitch to give them a read on Where, oh Where, Might Dear Sweet Chandra Be?! J.C., psychics on Faux news!? crazy shit, still is.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:45 PM
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20. This, to me, is a fascinating case, made for "Law and Order."
There are many issues beyond the tragic end of a young woman's life: the club scene, and venturing into it alone; safety in cities; the irony that the victim was studying criminal forensics; the galling lies from the bar, yet another establishment owned, like the bar from which Robert Chambers set off to murder Jennifer Levin, by the Dorrian family; the suspect, on parole, who was neither supposed to work at that hour or be employed by the owners.

A national story? Maybe not. But an interesting one.

And I do care about the young woman who was the victim of this crime, and about her family -- and I'd like to see the perp brought to justice, and definitely not at the head of a parade.

(As I'm here, of course, I care about, and post, many news articles that have nothing to do with crime.)
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:37 AM
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25. It's a local story. There are not enough hours in the day for the
national news to cover every "interesting" murder.

This is just distraction from real 'hard' news, and fear mongering (as was described in "Bowling for Columbine")
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 07:01 AM
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26. I have noticed that many of the political programs
are starting to fill up a lot more time on crime stories.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 07:07 AM
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27. The more I am bombarded with this story
the more I suspect that the bouncer is the fall guy for someone else.
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