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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:36 PM
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Since when is being environmentally conscious a "left wing" thing?
I don't think it's a left wing thing. I don't think it's a right wing thing.

Just had to share this with y'all.

One of the guys at work is a freeper. We got a newsletter from a food services consultant we use, and there was a column in there about conserving water. Good idea for everyone, right, left or otherwise, correct? The newsletter was to be routed to him before me, but somehow, that didn't happen and it came to me first.

So, I gave it to him and he says, "Oh, this is that 'left wing' newsletter." I said, "They talk about conserving water...that's a good idea for everyone."

I guess if they were writing about wasting resources, it WOULD be a partisan thing...a right-wing thing, huh? Sheesh!
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:38 PM
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1. Always?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:40 PM
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2. I think it is a left wing thing...it is the repugs that is destroying it..
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:40 PM
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3. Ask this person
If he views Teddy Roosevelt as left wing.
http://www.nps.gov/thro/tr_cons.htm
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:40 PM
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4. since...always?
i wasn't alive in days of teddy roosevelt so mebbe it was different then but in real world modern world wingnuts don't believe in saving any cake for the guy who comes after them -- even if the guy who comes after is their own kid
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:41 PM
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5. You are correct
Many conservatives care about the environment. However few conservatives vote on these issues.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:41 PM
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6. I would trace it to the early nineties
And Poppy Bush's remark about the "spotted owl crowd."
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:34 PM
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21. Anybody remember James Watt???
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:50 PM
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23. Yep
The seeds were all sown during the Reagan/Bush I years.
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:59 PM
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25. Ya got that right !!!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:43 PM
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7. Good stewardship of our natural resources ...
... became a 'left-wing' thing the day that Big Business realized it would cost money NOT to pollute.

It's a very easy formula: If it takes money OUT of someone's pocket, especially a corporation that's already making billions in profits, that automatically makes it a crazy, left-wing idea!
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:48 PM
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13. you're absolutely right sis.
:hi:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:54 PM
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14. Hey, long time, no see (or read?)!!!!
If anyone on this thread wants to talk about preserving the natural beauty of our country (or what's left of it), just ask my sister, CatMother.

She lives in the desert, and she'll SMACK YOU SILLY if you step on a bug, or crush a newly-sprouting cactus!
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:57 PM
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15. my sister is absolutely right. i live in the most beautiful place --
phoenix. i would not even chase the rattlesnake that was sleeping right outside my bedroom door. i figure he was here before me.:eyes:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:44 PM
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8. being environmentally conscious is "bad for business"
At least that's what they have claimed for the last 35 years.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:56 AM
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30. That's the key - it's "profit at whatever cost" that is anti-environment
You can find a few right-wingers who are environmentally conscious - mostly those who come from a long rural background, and to whom farming and property are important. Also, the 'left wing' regimes of Eastern Europe were awful for the environment, because they had a similar obsession with production (just for the state instead of company owners).
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:45 PM
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9. It's a knee-jerk reaction when talking about 'saving' anything
The right wing view is that there's plenty to go around, damage to the environment is vastly exaggerated and global warming is a myth.

It comes from listening to too much Limbaugh. But Limbaugh dismisses anything the left pays attention to.

For instance, I remember about 10 years ago when Limbaugh announced he got a new computer. He made a big deal out of the fact that he found the EnerStar options on his PC and when he realized what they were, he disabled them all, so now his PC was using the full amount of power all the time.

Now, I'm sure he mentioned this just to get a rise out of us lefties (and all others who care about their power consumption) but it shows you the mentality here.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:45 PM
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10. If you live in the West, water is an issue for everyone.
I hear your frustration.

Tell him Teddy Roosevelt was a conservationist, regardless of his other "endeavors".

He helped establish intelligent public land policy in the West, policy which is being decimated by his party today.
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Baconfoot Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:46 PM
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11. Acting responsibly and not COMPLETELY selfishly has always been leftist
Then what kind of leftist you are is determined by how to cash out "responsibly."

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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:47 PM
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12. It's becuase the RW Noise Machine says things like "enviro-wackos"
so that whenever conserving the environment is mentioned, it is now equated with wackos.

Probably because the biggest destroyers of our environment are large corporate interests and the RW looks out for them over people. They don't want their buds in the corporate world to have to spend any money cleaning up the messes they make, or to be prevented from destroying the environment in the first place.

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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:07 PM
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16. So hypocritical.
Speaking of energy conservatin, the firm I work for won the Energy Star Award 4 years ago for a state office building it designed, and just today, he and my other boss approved an ad to be published that touts just that.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:20 PM
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17. wow. that's great.
:bounce:
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:22 PM
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18. Since 1980
I would point out that even the anti-christ (that would be Richard M. Nixon) thought enough of the environment to create the EPA.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:31 PM
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19. Having air to breath and
clean water to drink is something that everyone needs and all should want to have.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:33 PM
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20. It became a "left wing" issue when the Dominionists took over the right.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:43 PM
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22. It's a left thing because
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 08:44 PM by OnionPatch
the right really don't seem to give a crap about the environment.

My farmer grandfather used to tell me that even a dog won't shit in its own bed so I guess they have more sense than Republicans.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:56 PM
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24. When Rush Limbaugh started attacking "tree huggers"
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:02 PM
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26. Since White conservative males bought all the media and made it so.
n/t
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:58 PM
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27. All very good points.
Another thing: there's the attitude of, "Well, I won't be around when things REALLY go to hell (not that they're not going to pot now, mind you), so why should I care?"
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:42 AM
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28. ttt one time
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:56 AM
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29. Because all that is good and true in the world is now on the Left.
The Right? They got nothing left but greasy con men, greedy billionaires, and sweaty leering preachers.

:)

Didn't used to be that way, but that's how it is now.
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