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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:20 PM
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Have you read about the Exelon Nuclear plant spilling the chemical Tritium
and it seeped into the water of the citizens of Godley, Illinois? It's made National Headlines. I have a very PERSONAL connection to this story. My sister-in-law grew up there. She had twin girls from a previous marriage who grew up there and were always sick. My brother married her when the twins were 4 and they now have a 7 year old son. They moved from Godley 5 years ago because their home burned down. Who would ever think THAT was a blessing in disguise? My sister-in-law works for the village of Godley (city clerk), population 600. She's worked there forever and has a ton of inside information on this scandal. She is the one who meets with the Exelon/ComEd higher ups, the IEPA, the NRC the journalists from the NYT, AP, Chicago and locals. She is at EVERY meeting they have on this DISASTER.

Exelon has contaminated Godley's water with Tritium. MANY of the wells are very shallow and they have a high water table because of the sand in the soil. There was a HUGE front page article in my local paper today about a Godley lady who started looking at her neighbors and asking a LOT of questions about their tumors, body rashes, sick children who were never sick until they moved to Godley, Lymphoma, babies with tumors, dogs with tumors, cats that were healthy one day and dead the next, dogs having convulsions/seizure, one lady has a field mouse in her freezer because it had NO LEGS, NO TEETH and ONE EYE, one little girl had NO ENAMEL on her teeth and so much more. Exelon leaked the Tritium years ago and covered it up. Last April, 2005, my S-I-L was at a town meeting where a nuclear plant activist released the information to the entire room, in front of cameras and reporters and THAT is how this info made it out. They still did NOTHING about it. It has taken this long to get this story noticed.

My Rep, (Repuke, Jerry Weller) USELESS PICE OF SHIT THAT HE IS, knew about this YEARS ago and did NOTHING. A couple of weeks ago the fact that he knew about it and did nothing was exposed in our local paper. I just talked to my s-i-l and she said Weller sent a LETTER to their last meeting. He's now saying the people of Godley should have a new water system and EXELON should pay for it, but that was all he had to say. My s-i-l said she had to give him credit for THAT and I had to clue her into the fact that it's "cover his ass time" because he had been exposed a couple of weeks ago because he knew and did nothing. She didn't know anything about that. She talked to Obama, in person, last week and he and Durbin (co-sponsor) are on this. I think she said they were going to introduce some kind of legislation on it very soon and she gave me no specifics.

Also, back in 2000, Exelon dumped DIESEL FUEL in a drainage ditch and told NO ONE! Someone in Godley was smelling something funny and walked across the street and there it was...a ditch FULL of Diesel Fuel! My sil said Exelon first said it was just 50 gallons. Then it was 500 gallons. NOW, they are admitting to dumping 5000 GALLONS of diesel fuel in that drainage ditch. Some people in Godley, to this day, have an oily film on their water! 6 YEARS LATER!!!!!

People have taken TRITIUM baths, drank it, cooked with it, given it to their pets and their children in their baby bottles!!! Can you imagine? So, guess what Exelon does. They invite the people of Godley to go to their wonderful nuclear plant to "see what it's all about." They had trinkets to hand out, a CLOWN for the kids, the biggest buffet my sil has ever seen, and were trying their best to BRIBE the people. As soon as the head honcho saw my sil walk in..he told other people and she was FOLLOWED the entire time she was there. She REFUSED to take any of their damn bribes or food.

I told her tonight SHE NEEDS TO LOOK OVER HER SHOULDER! These people are evil and are capable of anything. She said she had already thought about that and was constantly watching those around her. She KNOWS who she's dealing with. They are still denying the fact that Tritium is dangerous and cancerous. Tritium cannot be boiled out of the water. Purification systems cannot remove it either. Tritium IS water with an extra molecule (I think that's what I read)? H3O. It will never go away. Their water will have to come from another city if Godley remains Godley. I don't know....if it was me? I'd be outta there YESTERDAY.

One very young couple who just moved there with their INFANT and 2 year old were NEVER TOLD ABOUT THE TRITIUM by the real estate agent! They spent $6000 on a purification system only to learn it was a waste of money because it will never remove the Tritium from the water.

See how these people operate? They don't give a rats ass about the people of Godley. All they care about is their corporate reputation, $$$$$$, and keeping this story covered up. Oh, oh, oh!....I almost forgot...Exelon has agreed to buy bottled water for the people of Godley and the surrounding area.:eyes: Today my sil had to go door to door to do a head count in each home to give to Exelon because they refused to do anything until they had THAT info.:eyes: Also, there's a horse farm affected by this...30+ horses! Exelon will be supplying water for them too. So GENEROUS, eh? Are they going to buy bottled water for the citizens of Godley FOREVER, or what?

I was just HEARTSICK when I read this article today. My brother and his entire family have been exposed to that chemical. I'm hoping they join in a class action lawsuit and it looks VERY LIKELY one will be filed. G-d only knows what their futures hold.:(
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:27 PM
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1. K&R
Miserable corporate scum.

What a nightmare.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:28 PM
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2. is this what Bush means when he says safe nuclear power?
fucking criminals.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:29 PM
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3. They had trinkets to hand out, a CLOWN for the kids
I can understand them trying to purchase peoples' lives like they purchased Manhattan.... "trinkets", but I didn't know that they could get shrub away from his busy flying schedule to entertain the children, now that's a trick.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:30 PM
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4. OMG scum sucking motherf*ckers! k&R n/t
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 09:30 PM by fed-up
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:34 PM
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5. tragic
we will see Godleys pop up all across the country over the next couple of decades. The SIL needs to read up on the Love Canal.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:40 PM
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7. This is just like that. I remember the documentary. SO SAD.
This is exactly like the Erin Brockovich story too. EXACTLY like it. I hope they village sues the rat bastards.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:46 PM
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10. and those were relatively isolated cases
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 09:46 PM by leftchick
we will be seeing killing fields on a grand scale in years to come given the corporatization of our EPA. :cry:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:38 PM
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6. That is horrendous. Bet they have deep repuke ties.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:41 PM
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8. They have no compassion...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:41 PM
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9. Thanks for posting this. How would we ever find out about this
without folks here posting their own experiences.

I think your sister-in-law is doing good stuff..but she should get out of there if she can. It will take years for these people to ever get any help...and we've got the Bush Bots in there for many years more......:-(
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:58 PM
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12. I know she should leave, but probably won't. She was offered a job in the
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 09:59 PM by in_cog_ni_to
town where she now lives, near Godley, and she said she'd probably take it on part-time and stay in her Godley job. She's been there for 18 years and feels obligated to stay and help them fight this. The Mayor of Godley sends HER to the press conferences and meetings because he has such a bad temper and is afraid he'll explode on camera. LOL.....so, she goes and fights the battles for him. As long as she never drinks water from the tap at work, she should be OK. I fear for her life because of what these people are capabale of though.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:03 PM
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13. I know....kind of like she's caught there......jobs are important
these days and being a part of a community if one is lucky enough to have been in one place that long. She feels she can do good..

I have great respect for her for doing that...but understand what you say, too..
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:52 PM
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11. OMG. nt
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:18 PM
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14.  IMPORTANT note I forgot....2 other nuclear plant "leaks" of Tritium
Byron and Dresden have also had Tritium leaks! They are nearby. Read this tidbit.....

<snip>
IS IT SAFE?

Exelon and the NRC say a 1998 spill of 3 million gallons

of tritium -- a form of hydrogen that becomes radioactive water when it contacts air -- did contaminate ground water that breached the Braidwood plant boundary. But the radioactivity had not risen above federal limits where people live or have their drinking water wells.

At Dresden, the 276,000-gallon (1 million-liter) tritium leak is still on-site, and the spill at Byron was found inside concrete vaults along an effluent pipe.

The plants are all within 100 miles of Chicago in northern Illinois, which has the largest nuclear capacity of any U.S. state, about equal to Great Britain's.

The spilled tritium was destined to be discharged as effluent in rivers anyway, authorities said, and they were not explicitly required to notify the public about it -- a reporting loophole Illinois congressmen want closed.

"It's not like people are going to start dropping like flies from this level of radiation," said Arjun Makhijani of the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research.

"What I am alarmed by is the number of years it has taken, and how lax the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has been, and how lax the corporation has been in informing the community fully" about the spills, he said.<snip>

http://reuters.myway.com/article/20060304/2006-03-04T173811Z_01_N01404553_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-NUCLEAR-DC.html
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PinkUnicorn Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:32 PM
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15. Tritium
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 10:33 PM by PinkUnicorn
Tritium cannot be boiled out of the water. Purification systems cannot remove it either. Tritium IS water with an extra molecule (I think that's what I read)? H3O. It will never go away. Their water will have to come from another city if Godley remains Godley. I don't know....if it was me? I'd be outta there YESTERDAY.

Just a few corrections - science speak ahead.

Tritium is an isotope of hydrogen, like deuterium.

Ordinary Hydrogen: 1 proton, half life - stable (99.985 of all hydrogen)
Deuterium ('heavy hydrogen'): 1 proton, 1 neutron half life - stable (0.014% of all hydrogen)
Tritium: 1 proton, 2 neutrons, half life 12 years.

There is no such thing as 'H3O water'.

Water consists of H2O, two hydrogen and one oxygen. What happens is that a 'heavy hydrogen' atom replaces one of the ordinary hydrogen and you get 'heavy water' - D2O or T2O

This in itself is not dangerous, as there has always been some heavy hydrogen around. Drinking 'Deuterium Heavy Water' wont have an effect at anything all, as humans have been drinking small amounts of it for millenia and its a stable isotope. Tritium/Deuterium can't be 'boiled out' or 'purified' from water because they 'are' the water. It would be like taking the chocolate out of chocolate cake. Chemically, it is impossible to tell the difference (atomically is different however).

Tritium however is not stable and has a half life of 12.3 years and decays into Helium 3 via beta emission. So (assuming no more releases) it will 'go away' - eventually. So if you have 'tritium water' you have slightly radioactive water.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:47 PM
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16. Thank you. H3O was printed in my paper and I do believe
that quote was from some water purification company...Aquativa? I have to save this for my sil. 12 years and it may be gone as long as no more leaks occur? Not a chance I would want to take with my life or my kids life and 12 YEARS is a long time to be exposed to toxic chemicals. What about the tumors? The cancers? The rashes? and everything else that has come from exposure to this chemical? Do you have any science speak on that? Are you familiar with side effects of Tritium? Do you have any info I could give my sil and brother on side effects?
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PinkUnicorn Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:08 PM
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17. No problem
I was just providing information which may be of use, as in an matter such as this a correct information is very important. I have no right to tell you to do anything because it's not my future on the line. Sorry if I appeared to be implying otherwise. :(

I'm not a doctor or a toxicologist so any I can't provide exact information, however Tritium is used for medicine (in small amounts) so there would have to be a Hazmat (Hazardous Materials) listing or possibly check through the OHS (occupation health and safety) office. Universities occasionally have small amounts of it for research, so if there is one nearby perhaps they could give you the information. I also understand the CDC in the US also handles toxic materials, so perhaps them as well? I'll see what I can drag up through ChemWatch.

On the positive side, water 'cycles' through the body for about 10 days or so 'purging' it from ones system doesn't take long at all assuming a clean supply. Absorption through skin is very small compared to ingesting the stuff.

Out of curiosity, if they also dumped diesel, etc. What else have they buried out there on the side? Enough things like PCBs, DDT's, benzene compounds etc could make tritium just the tip of a large cocktail.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:22 PM
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18. I have no clue what other crap they've dumped and covered up.
G-d only knows.:scared: I didn't mean to sound like I was jumping on you. I REALLY DO appreciate your input and I think the info you gave me will be very helpful and you are correct when you say accuracy matters...especially in important matters as this. I just posted what was in my paper and apparently the "scientist" they talked to didn't know as much about Tritium. I'm going to print your post out and give it to my sil. Sorry if I sounded snarky...didn't mean to be.:)

I'll do some searching on it tomorrow and see what I can dig up. Thanks for your help.:hi:
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PinkUnicorn Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:52 PM
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19. This may be of use
Edited on Wed Mar-15-06 12:00 AM by PinkUnicorn
I found this extract from Killing our own - the reference lists on the chapter may provide links to some studies and literature. And this study done - chapter three, (about pg 35).

There seem to be a number of research papers, etc at Institute for Energy and Environmental Research - type in Tritium into the search section.

I hope these may be of use to you

On edit: I forgot to mention one thing, sorry. While tritium is used for some medicinal/commercial purposes, the primary role of tritium production at this point is for thermonuclear weapons. Which could explain why there is a rather cavalier attitude from producers. When you have military backing...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:05 PM
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25. From the article you posted!..."But tritium can be deadly." Damn them!
Thank you so much, PinkUnicorn! OMG....I want to SCREAM! These bastards are going to pay for what they have done! I haven't had a chance to read your other link from The Institute for Energy and Environmental Research, but I WILL. Thank you so much for this info. I'm starting a file for my sil so she can be armed for these assholes.


But tritium can be deadly. A radioactive form of hydrogen, it has a half-life of twelve years. Because it gives off relatively small amounts of beta (electron) radiation, it is considered less dangerous than many other isotopes. However tritium behaves chemically and biochemically like ordinary hydrogen. When ingested, it can incorporate itself into all forms of body cells, including those of the reproductive system. Researchers theorize that because of its ability to act like regular water, tritium can incorporate with the DNA in living cells, multiplying the prospects for damage leading to genetic mutations and cancer<6>

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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:33 AM
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21. Thank you for saying that . . .
Edited on Wed Mar-15-06 03:58 AM by lfairban
. . . and excuse me for being a chemist, but there is such a thing as H3O+, but you will probably never hear about it outside a chemistry book.

In case you want to know more about Tritium:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium

http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/tritium.htm

You cant really write the symbols for the water that is formed when it combines with air without super/sub scripts. It should be:

(super)3H(sub)2O and (super)3HHO

But it is easier to write T(sub)2O and THO.
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PinkUnicorn Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 05:18 AM
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22. No worries :)
I know about hydronium, but since it's ionic and you get it in every bit of water I didn't want to get complicated or off topic (dissolving acids into water increases the hydronium, etc etc). But I'll defer to you and stick with physics, as I found organic chemistry nasty :)

You can do supers and subs but you have to enter them directly as <sub>, </sub>, <sup> and </sup>

3H2O, 3HHO, T2O.
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heart of darkness Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:10 PM
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27. some corrections
Edited on Wed Mar-15-06 02:16 PM by heart of darkness
Hey Pinkunicorn and OP (on edit: reading farther down I realized I didn't add much that hadn't been previosly stated by others..serves me right for not reading the whole post:)

not trying to start a turf war or anything, you were pretty much right on the money, but just wanted to clarify a couple of things..

"heavy water," water that is deuterated or tritiated is not H3O, as pinkunicorn said..you could have H3O+, which is often the form of water in acid solutions, but that is different and I digress. Sound like in_cog_nito's paper doesn't get it.

It is possible to separate D2O, THO and H2O, though not in a practical way. Its called fractional distillation and as long as the components in your mixture have different vapor pressures (boiling points) it is possible. Realistically, it would be hard to do with these compounds if not an expert and I wouldn't feel all that confident about drinking tainted water, "cleaned" or not. It is not true that deuterium is the same as hydrogen. Drinking D2O is not good for you in large doses (much much larger than you would ever get naturally-like 20% deuterated or more). Your body doesn't use Deuterium like hydrogen and it will mess you up. One of the reasons deuterium is bad for you is that it binds to other molecules more strongly than hydrogen, which affects biological processes. I am not sure if tritium is similar..if so, it would be possible that it would stay in the body longer than normal hydrogen.

Tritiated water exists as THO, one tritium atom and one hydrogen. Tritium is very, very rare naturally, but is formed in nuclear power plant processes. The dangers of tritium water are that the tritium can be incorporated into the various cellular processes of your body, messing them up or more importantly, it can decay while in the body, cause cellular and genetic damage. You could pick up the tritiated water via inhalation (hot showers), through your skin, and ingestion. So, your family could have had quite high exposure levels.

IMO (based on general science-type reading) It is hard to figure out what levels of radiation are dangerous and what the effects will be, which is not very reassuring. I am sure if you talked to an expert, they could give you ideas on "normal" adverse effects. The weird part is that people are still alive from Hiroshima..huge dosages of radiation. Children are at the most risk because they are growing, hence lots of cell division.

Along with the tritium exposure, my concern would be what other contaminants have been released? Its not like tritium in the water "just happens." If there is filmy water and other stuff, it could mean all sorts of chemicals leaching from the nuclear plant, other industrial sites, etc. For an interesting read on the stupidity of companies and the difficulties of dealing with this kind of stuff in court, pick up a copy of A Civil Action.

HoD
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:45 PM
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34. Thank you, HoD! ALL of this info is going to my SIL.
The more I read, the more I cry. My little 7 year old nephew was born when they lived in Godley. His little body no doubt has been affected. The twins grew up there and my SIL had lived there her entire life! My brother has been exposed. My g-d. It makes me ill to think about it.

The oil film on the water is from Exelon dumping 5000 GALLONS of Diesel fuel in a drainage ditch.:grr: G-d only knows what other shit they leaked or dumped and not bothered to tell anyone. And we all know how well their regulated!:sarcasm:

Thanks for the heads up on the book. I WILL buy a copy.
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PinkUnicorn Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:28 PM
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41. Doses
IMO (based on general science-type reading) It is hard to figure out what levels of radiation are dangerous and what the effects will be, which is not very reassuring. I am sure if you talked to an expert, they could give you ideas on "normal" adverse effects. The weird part is that people are still alive from Hiroshima..huge dosages of radiation. Children are at the most risk because they are growing, hence lots of cell division.

Hee, no 'turf war' here I hope. Radiation is a horribly complex thing and I'm not the world most erudite poster. :)

Actual effects of exposure are tricky. First, of the US insists on using the old measurements of exposure ratings using REM (Röntgen equivalent in man) and RAD (Radiation Absorbed Dose) where as the rest of the world uses Sieverts and Grays ( *sigh* Another inches/millimeters/gallons/litres/etc thing).

Then you have particle and EM radiation (I'll skip neutron which is a big headache). Particle radiation (alpha and beta) is more dangerous than EM, but is easily stopped by a piece of paper, foil and possibly even thick skin (BTW tritium, is a beta emitter). EM (such as gamma rays) don't do as much 'damage' for an equivalent amount of exposure but they are damn hard to shield against (hence the need for thick lead and concrete). Hence it is far worse to have particle emitters inside the body as opposed to a gamma emitter.

Next is the exposure acute and chronic. Hiroshima was mostly acute - a large one off dose. An air burst had minimal fallout and DNA is remarkably adept at repairing itself if given a chance, if they were not killed outright or recieved a fatal dose they could easily survive. But chronic exposure doesn't give it a chance - having radionuclides inside a body destroys repairs as fast as they are made. There is a normal level of background radiation which is about 2.5 milli sieverts (0.25 rem) per year but it varies a lot depending where you are. And then of course different tissues react differently again.

As for exposures as a rough rule of thumb for an acute dose -
1 Sv (100rem) causes slight blood changes, possible temp sterility
2-3 Sv (200-300 rem) Nausea, hair loss, hemorrhage ('typical' radiation poisoning).
4+ (400rem) is generally lethal.

Chronic is more difficult and requires a fair number of calculations and a lot of guesstimates, but generally its Adult annual limit ~0.05 Sv (5 Rem), Child limit ~0.005 Sv (0.5 Rem). (Warning these are rough estimates from various sources - best to get an official word off an expert)

As for the other things in the release, thats is why I was curious. Tritium used to me made by pumping heavy water through a reactor to soak up neutrons. The more modern method is to install lithium rods near the core to turn it into gaseous Tritium.



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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 12:59 AM
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20. horrible...
someone needs to compile a book full of stories like this.

Makes me sick...
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:19 AM
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23. Don'tcha know Corporate Regulation is harming America?
Edited on Wed Mar-15-06 09:19 AM by bushmeat
:sarcasm:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:07 PM
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26. Right. They don't need no stinkin' regulations!
:grr: I am so pissed off right now, I think my head's going to explode! These people make me SICK!
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:37 AM
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24. K & R
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:16 PM
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28. kicking
nt
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:24 PM
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29. Sounds a lot like Love Canal. Do you remember that disaster?
http://www.epa.gov/history/topics/lovecanal/01.htm

Many eons ago I worked on a legal project associated with that disaster. I read stuff that would turn your tummy over and over.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:34 PM
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33. Oh yeah...I watched the documentary about the Love Canal.
It was heartbreaking. This is just like it, unfortunately.

When ComEd wanted to build their freakin' nuclear plant, no one in Godley wanted it there and they completely ignored the will of the people and built it anyway. The community has been paid big bucks by Exelon/ComEd and have one of the nicest schools around here...it's HUGE. I think, if they could give all that money back and have clean water and their health, they would do it in a heartbeat:(.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 04:45 PM
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35. the text from that link that is very chilling is..
"We suspect that there are hundreds of such chemical dumpsites across this Nation.

Unlike Love Canal, few are situated so close to human settlements. But without a doubt, many of these old dumpsites are time bombs with burning fuses -- their contents slowly leaching out. And the next victim cold be a water supply, or a sensitive wetland.

The presence of various types of toxic substances in our environment has become increasingly widespread -- a fact that President Carter has called "one of the grimmest discoveries of the modern era."

"

Back in Carter's day people knew it would end up being a bigger issue and we all knew that eventually the water supply would be at risk...

Nuclear power has a great deal of risks and a lot of them are subtle...like tritium water..no one notices at first until a number of cancer clusters appear and children are born deformed.
Not all nuclear disasters are earth shattering like Chernobyl ...some are slow and could be just as deadly.

One thing I remember from years ago was that fuel oil companies would get rid of the bad stuff by offering services to help "keep down dust" on local roads...so local muncipalities would pay for these folks to help keep the old dirt roads from being so "dusty"...so the fuel oil companies would spray sludge onto the roads....it kept the dust down and also seeped into the well water....
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 06:41 PM
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37. I followed one of those sludge trucks one day!
We were going on a trip and we had to board our dog. Just so happens the kennel is on a gravel road. When I went to drop little Isabelle off, I was stuck behind a truck spreading the damn oil sludge and by the time I got to the kennel...MILES later, my car was COVERED with that crap. It was dripping off like I had just gone through a sludge car wash.:grr: I was NOT a happy camper! We were leaving that day so my car sat in the garage for 10 days while we were gone. The sludge was BAKED ON by the time we got back. They still spread that crap on the gravel roads.:( I never thought abou it seeping into the well water! :scared:
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:26 PM
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30. Jerry Weller's Marriage
I believe Jerry Weller is married to the daughter of a horrible, far-right wing central American dictator, from Guatemala. The killer dictator murdered hundreds of thousands of people.

If I recall this information correctly, it would be wise to never, ever turn your back on this Weller douche bag.

Yep, Weller's horrible. Here is the information I recalled about his killer father-in-law:

http://www.americas.org/item_24728

QUOTE
At least one group has called for him to resign from the International Relations Committee because his wife's father, Efrain Rios Montt, installed himself as Guatemala's dictator for 18 months in 1982-83.

Critics accuse Montt of leading one of the bloodiest campaigns in the nation's 36-year civil war, which killed 200,000 people. His daughter, Zury Rios Sosa, has been an active supporter and close political ally, including during her father's recent failed presidential campaign.

"There's still a lot of scars left with the Guatemalan community because of the actions of the father-in-law during the war," said Maricela Garcia, president of the Chicago-based Coalition of Guatemalan Immigrants.
END QUOTE
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:25 PM
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32. Yes. I know about the horrid dictator's daughter. SHE ran the man's
political campaign. She has to be just as bad as her father, IMCPO. Weller spends more time in Guatemala with her than he does in Morris Illinois where he rents an apartment just so he can say that's where he lives. He's also connected to ABRAMOFF! He's a corrupt SOB. I hope he loses his ass in his next election. He USELESS.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:30 PM
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31. but Bush says nuclear energy is SAFE & the ANSWER to our energy needs
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 05:57 PM
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36. Oh, the JOYS of capitalism! "Corporations can regulate themselves..."

MY ASS (:kick:)!!!


Excellent story "incognito". I wish your family good health and good luck with the lawsuit. I'm so sick of Corporations killing innocent people for the sake of profit. Makes my blood boil. :mad:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 06:44 PM
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38. Thank you file83. In tonight's paper
there is another article and 2 couples have now filed a lawsuit with hopes of it leading to a class action suit. Exelon said there's absolutely no cause for concern and there's no evidence that low levels of radiation is dangerous.:grr: BULLSHIT. I don't think this story is going away any time soon. The media is ALL OVET IT. Finally!
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:53 PM
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40. Isn't it hypcritical that if citizens harm corporate people they are
called "terrorists" - yet if corporate people harm citizens they are called "capitalists"?
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 06:44 PM
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39. Corporations do not need clean water.
They are persons with the same - actually, better - rights & protections just like you & me. EXCEPT they do not require the same things human persons do -- clean water, clean air, healthy food, safe medications. They are beholden to the bottom line only & have abused their personhood rights by committing atrocities against humans & human communities. Our public officials who do their bidding have committed crimes against humanity, literally. They have betrayed human beings for these inhuman & inhumane behemoths that pay them off with wealth that most of us can only dream about.

It's time to revoke personhood rights for corporations!

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/political_reform/proposed_constitutional_amendments.html


An Amendment to Revoke Corporate Constitutional Privileges

SECTION 1. The U.S. Constitution protects only the rights of living human beings.

SECTION 2. Corporations and other institutions granted the privilege to exist shall be subordinate to any and all laws enacted by citizens and their elected governments.

SECTION 3. Corporations and other for-profit institutions are prohibited from attempting to influence the outcome of elections, legislation or government policy through the use of aggregate resources or by rewarding or repaying employees or directors to exert such influence.

SECTION 4. Congress shall have power to implement this article by appropriate legislation.
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