Censuring the president-by kos

[kpete]

Censuring the president
by kos
Wed Mar 15, 2006 at 07:46:06 AM PDT
The following Democratic senators have come out for censuring the president:



Daniel Akaka
Max Baucus
Byron Dorgan
Dick Durbin
Dianne Feinstein
Daniel Inouye
Jim Jeffords
Ted Kennedy
John Kerry
Herb Kohl
Mary Landrieu
Carl Levin
Joe Lieberman
Blanche Lincoln
Barbara Mikulski
Patty Murray
Jack Reed
Harry Reid
Jay Rockefeller
Chuck Schumer
Ron Wyden



Unfortunately, the president being censured was Bill Clinton, not George W. Bush. Because, you know, these senators had their priorities straight.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/3/15/9466/19457

[The Witch]

1. dayumn.

Irony at its finest. Puke-o-rama.

[xultar]

23. Sorry you don't get it...They going for censure to thwart impeachment

[radio4progressives]

27. Absolutely Not True - Both Can and Should be Done.

Censuring the president now, can at least put into effect a Cease and Desist of his Domestic Spying programs - and put him notice that both Senate and House Investigations will definetly follow which could into currently known and still secret Domestic Spying programs, and it could (and should)eventually lead to articles of impeachment .

Censuring does not preclude Impeachment.

[The Witch]

31. Oh, in the clinton era? Sigh, someone should explain that to the repubs .

sigh. that's the way Randi is framing it these days. "It's a slap on the wrist! Just say he did something wrong!"


Sigh.

[dubyaD40web]

2. Shame.

n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

3. NO Way !! MUCH better than I thought. Even Joe Mo ?? n/t

[sasha031]

6. my thoughts too

looks like he's afraid of Lamont and the voters.

[Catrina]

9. I think that was for censuring Clinton ~ not Bush n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

4. Yikes ! And Mary Landrieu??? WOW n/t

[sasha031]

5. John Kerry should be on thta list also

it's gaining legs:applause:

[Demit]

7. oh kiiiiiidds.......wakey wakey. Did you read the last line in the post?

[Kierkegaard]

10. Amazing, isn't it?

:banghead:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Oh shit. No, I did not.

[Mass]

8. kos would not recognize that, unfortunately.

He could not be bothered calling Kerry's office, while liberal oasis did call and have the info straight.

[Demit]

13. The list is about the censure of Bill Clinton.

Talk about not bothering to get your info straight. LOL!

[Mass]

14. Sweety, I know. I am able to read.

And kos is implying that these people do not support censure for Bush. so he did not check, obviously. Liberal Oasis did. That was my point.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. You are right, I didn't get it straight. Thanks for being so sweet !

[xultar]

24. You are right...They going for censure to thwart impeachment.

[Rose Siding]

11. Most of those votes were an attempt to avoid impeachment

It makes a dramatic point, but I don't hold that against them.

[Mass]

12. Well, it seems that the goal of this story is to bash Democrats. not to

attack Bush.

[mdmc]

17. Ya think any of em will support Russ?

Kerry has to, unless he wants to fight Russ for "most liberal Senator running for Pres."

[Mass]

18. I dont know if Kerry has to. I know he does, tough.

and not only for political reasons, if you look at his background. I am sure my senior senator will too, as will Durbin.

I cant say for the rest (even if I have my doubt for Lieberman).

[mdmc]

19. Kerry is a true liberal

and I appreciate that with all my heart. As a Nader voter in 96 and y2k, I came back to the party in 2004 and voted for Kerry (although I did cast my vote on the WFP working family party line).

Now I am a yellowdog. Any (working family party endorsed) Dem will get my vote for pres in 2008.

[xultar]

29. But do we want Censure when we can get impeach if we win 2k6?

[mdmc]

32. even if we win, we won't ChImpeach

it will be a democratic victory in 2006, not an activist victory. IMHO, 2006 is no where near a given. We need to stand up and deliver in 2006. This is our time. The time is now.

[xultar]

34. Oh so a Dem victory in 2k6 isn't an activist victory so we have split

into 2 parties. The Democratic Party and the Activist Party.

Then we need an ActivistUndergound. site.

The time is not now.

Now is is 2k6 mid-term elections.

[mdmc]

35. A dem victory will lead to lots of moderation, will slow w.'s war effort.

I think that the best way to win in 2006 is to censure w. We have to set up the groundwork. The bottom line is impeachment gets rid of the people's choice for pres. No dlc dem will do this as they are implicated in w.'s "lies".

Just look at what Wes Clark is saying on this subject.

[xultar]

26. DEM on DEM violence. You gotta love it.

[mdmc]

33. I really think that this is about leadership.

Right now, we need dems to lead the opposition. Look at the bankruptcy vote - I doubt any of those dems will ever vote to censure or chimpeach, regardless of what happens in 2006.

[xultar]

25. YES! BRILLIANT! Thank's for stopping the maddness!

[Norquist Nemesis]

20. Odd...I just talked with Durbin's office

She (the person that answered) said he hasn't stated a position yet. :shrug: I hope Kos is correct.

[Skinner]

21. Read it again.

In particular, take a look at the last sentence.

[Norquist Nemesis]

22. DOH!

:dunce:

Thanks, Skinner.

[xultar]

28. Can someone go over to Kos and help them with the facts. Puhhleez?

[Sammy Pepys]

30. Thanks a lot, Kos...

I see where he's going, and I'm all for interparty debate...but something like this isn't going to help matters, I'm afraid.