Is America a nation that supports killing innocent children?

[katinmn]

Let the facts sink in. Then get out in the street on Saturday, call your legislators, and demand an end to the carnage. It is on our hands. Only we can stop it!


Relatives mourn near the bodies of children, reportedly killed in a U.S. raid, as they arrive in a hospital in Tikrit, 130 kilometers (80 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq, Wednesday, March 15,2006. Eleven people, most of them women and children were killed when a house was bombed during a U.S. raid north of Baghdad early Wednesday, police and relatives said. The U.S. military acknowledged four deaths in the raid that they said netted an insurgent suspect in the rural Isahaqi area, about 80 kilometers (50 miles) north of the capital. (AP Photo/Bassim Daham)

[bowens43]

1. As long as they are not still in the womb

it's ok to kill them........

[bryant69]

2. Yes we are. We are a nation of heartless bastards.

Just like all the other nations of the world. Humanity is nothing but a pack of mad dogs who learned to put on clothes.

Bryant
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[bryant69]

12. YOu know what's doubly amusing?

The number of Democratic Undergrounders who are reading this and saying "Yeah that's right. Other Americans are Heartless Bastards. Thank Goodness I'm not like them."

[Mythsaje]

13. What the hell is THAT supposed to mean? n/t

[bryant69]

15. Most people are heartless bastards

All participants at Democratic Underground are people (as far as I know).
Ergo, Most people at Democratic Underground are Heartless Bastards.

I would have thought it was obvious.

Bryant

[Mythsaje]

18. Most people are heartless bastards?

There are so many things wrong with that statement I don't know where to start.

Objection--assuming facts not in evidence.

[bryant69]

30. I got plenty of evidence

It's not like I haven't met plenty of people over my life. In my experience there are two types of people. Those who want something from you and so conceal their asshole qualities, and those who don't want anything from you and so reveal their asshole qualities.

Bryant

[Mythsaje]

32. Wow...

sucks to be you.

I haven't found that to be the case at all. I think you're meeting the wrong people.

[Cults4Bush]

37. Anytime anyone says "there are two types of people" I know that their

outlook is limited, their experience probably even more so... and their mind essentially closed.

Heartless Bastards everywhere.. sucks to be you. I know hundreds of people who fall distinctly outside of your myopic viewing of human nature.

may you be happy someday.. or maybe you already are with everyone in the world being heartless bastards.

[sutz12]

47. There are two types of people in the world...

those who divide the world into two types, and those who don't.

[Heidi]

3. Other people's children

are fair game, sadly. Shameful.

[leesa]

36. New Orleans? Tens of thousands of starving American children?

How many without insurance? What do you mean other people's children?

[Grown2Hate]

4. Makes me sick.

I want to print this out (and pictures like it), mail them to every Senator that voted for this atrocity, and tape them to the windshield of every freak I still see with "W" or "Bush/Cheney" stickers on their vehicle. This blood is on ALL of their hands, and they deserve to see it up close and personal.

[theHandpuppet]

19. I'd like to print these pics out as fliers

And post them on every damn vehicle I see sporting "Pro-Life" and "W" stickers.

[malaise]

45. Actually I'd like to post the pictures on a Freeper site

and ask them who the fugg told them that this

has more life than these


Their parents wanted them and loved them. They had no choice. Fuck Bush and all his murder loving supporters. I am angry beyond belief.
Add.

[ulysses]

5. oh god.

What bizarre and pathetic creatures we are, that we do this to children.

:cry:

[bluedog]

6. the "religious right" don't care!!

they support the GOP party of death and destruction to the very end......

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[Texasgal]

26. I think the Op was trying to convey

That this war is WRONG. Regardless of how these children died, this war is just simply WRONG.

These children died... for nothing, no matter who KILLED them. They were casualty's of war.

It's WRONG and it is SAD.

Period. :cry:

[katinmn]

27. Right click on the image and click on properties for the source.

The cutline was from the news agency, so identified.

[Cults4Bush]

40. He doesn't care Kat, he's just here spooge his slimey criminal mind

on your thread.

He doesn't care about truth only his fears matter. Only his mind matters. He is the only one that knows the right way.

He is sick, and hopefully he supports all the killing and torture and loss of rights and rapes and all the other stuff that dogs like him love about this war, long enough to take his ass to trial with the other war criminals. Another fascist breaking the laws of the land and human decency.

[Richard Steele]

42. The sick fuck is jerking off to that pic RIGHT NOW. nm

[raccoon]

29. You sure you belong here?

"For the most part, suicide/IED attacks account for many more deaths of innocent women and children then ANY attack by the Coalition Forces. It is not opinion, but fact."

Your source? But even IF you have one, that doesn't change the fact that all these deaths result because the Bush junta invaded Iraq. It is one of the most disgraceful events of the history of the US.

"The insurgents are cowards. They will hide behind innocence to complete their mission."

If the situation were reversed--if some other country had invaded the US and American "insurgents" were fighting against them--would you say the same thing?

The "insurgents" would be called "freedom fighters" by the other side.

"The trade-off for the collateral losses in the conflict is a coalition causality, and the losses, although bad on both sides are tolerable."

Well, I guess it's a good thing they're not bombing your city, isn't it? I guess you'd think losses of your family members (collateral damage) was pretty intolerable, huh? :sarcasm:

[Cults4Bush]

39. You just keep on rationalizing the warcrimes away. That is just sick.

That is what is getting more Iraqis than everunder Saddam killed. Im sure thats ok with you though, "civil war is good" aint it.

Take you big cold dick and go wank it off with the rest of your blood thirsty, Muslim hating, anti-gay, anti-choice, anti-constistution, peace defiling, war criminal loving crap somewhere else. You are in the minority not just across the world (which you dont give a shit about, mmmmm more depleted uranium please and please kill the looters) but also in America.

Rah rah rah only America can save the world and we can destroy anything we want in the process becaus eof our ignorance and fears... what a wuss.

[Richard Steele]

41. How do you live with yourself?

Look the photo up, It's tonight's TOP STORY
across half the WORLD.
But you already know that, hence your
well-prepared pile of EXCUSES.

Family of 9 and 2 guests, shot in their home,
IN THEIR SLEEP, by US troops.
And the US has already admitted it.
But considering the UTTER LIES
you claim to be facts in your post,
I doubt you care much t

What kind of MONSTER looks at this and tries to make excuses for it?
How do you sleep at night?
WHAT THE HELL HAS EATEN YOUR SOUL AWAY
SO BADLY THAT YOU CAN DEFEND THIS:

[WinkyDink]

44. So what's your point?

I love it when Republicans "defend" Bushco high crimes and misdemeanors by saying, "But others did it, too! And they were BAD! But, um, Bush is GOOD, even if he does the same stuff, um, er, but THEY were BAD!"

BTW, Germany was an ally of Japan, who had attacked us. Iraq did not attack us, and Al-Qaeda is not a nation.

I'm willing to call BOTH the fire-bombing of Dresden a war -crime AS WELL AS the insanity that is Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq.
"Insurgents"? Against what government? These men are freedom-fighters battling an occupying force.

[Texasgal]

48. All it took was 3 posts...

Why do freeps come over here and try to dispel the OBVIOUS?

[Richard Steele]

51. Because their other option is to look INWARD, and that would be fatal.

They can't even remain still for a moment,
lest they ACCIDENTALLY catch a glimpse of
their own maggot-riddled hearts.

[valerief]

7. The people who did this, who made this happen, probably

enjoy this. They are perverse and should be imprisoned.

[atreides1]

11. Two different groups

Those who made this happen and those who carried out the orders share the same level of guilt. It's not all just Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and company. It's also those in uniform who "follow orders".

Let's not forget that fact either.

[valerief]

14. I didn't forget that fact.

But I think the adults who make such crimes happen, who set the stage, who provoke and brainwash, are far guiltier than the young, inexperienced dolts who carry out the crimes. It's like a parent telling his toddler child to put marbles in an infant's mouth.

[Mythsaje]

20. Don't start blaming the soldiers

who DIDN'T do it. That's a dangerous trap to step into. These folks are put in a very precarious position in the middle of a war zone, where they face danger not only from the enemy, but from their own fellows if they don't follow orders.

The soldiers who killed those kids should be held responsible, but don't lump all the kids over there into one barrel. That's not fair, nor right.

[zbdent]

8. When it's bombing a country with oil, yes. When it's an impoverished

minority (after being released from the womb), yes. When it's the spawn of immigrants not yet having citizenship, yes.

When it's a small collection of cells less noticeable than the mold on your bread that's been out a little too long, NOPE!

[shantipriya]

9. Children killed!!!

It is a shame and a disgrace for this once a great country.I am ashamed to be an American.Where are the captains of society,religious leaders and caring people who care about the country and humanity.Wake up Americans!!!. Take time away from your mind numbing TV shows, sports,etc. and look around you and see what the current bunch of White House occupants have done to the world and the image and reputation of our beloved country!!!!

[tatertop]

10. Hell yes we are!

Not only do many Americans support it,
many insist on it:
'Kill those future terraists!'
'We'll show YOU how the US of A deals with 911 evil-doers!'

There seems to be no limit to the ignorance and
absolute love of violence inherent in the population of Dumbmericans.

[TahitiNut]

16. A political calculus that thinks this COST is worth "an insurgent suspect"

... is a morally and humanly bankrupt calculus. We are an outlaw nation, permitting the war crimes and crimes against humanity of an outlaw regime. It's beyond appalling.

[Solly Mack]

17. America is a war crime nation - so YES - America not only supports

killing children - America IS actively and intentionally killing children.


And all the while America is deliberately killing these children, America is telling the survivors how much better life will be because of the killing.


How's that for a mind-fuck?

[Benhurst]

21. Wasn't in Barney Frank who said under Reagan, "life begins

at conception and ends at birth"?

In any event, I fear that is what this country now represents around the world and, increasingly, at home.

[sakabatou]

22. As long as the public is in the dark, its A-OK!

:puke:

[Vidar]

23. As long as they are clear of the womb, hell yes!

[genie_weenie]

25. Yes. And No.

The statement "Is America a nation that supports killing innocent children?" is too general. Some Americans support it out right, let's kill their young, Aryan SkeleCoutler, Pat Robertson for example. what becomes difficult to ascertain is if you mean, by not attempting a more active role (and I will leave that up to the reader to determine what I mean) to stop the egregious use of American Weaponry are you by extension guilty of support?

Am I guilty (by way of silent complicity) of the deaths of children if I do not risk my life to stop it? Or how can I be not guilty?

edit: to make final sentences clear

[katinmn]

28. kick. Make your plans for Saturday.

[noonwitch]

31. They got in the way of our bombs!

Poor family, how awful. I guess we're not winning too many allies around there.

[Swamp Rat]

33. kick and recommended n/t

:cry:

[mmonk]

34. Yes. And most of the Christian churches in America

as well though unknowingly due to lack of broadcast media coverage.

[leesa]

35. Obviously, we are.

[Gregorian]

38. Exactly what has been going through my mind as well.

When you listen to college radio, you get public service announcements.

What I hear is things like the dangers of children on trampolines. I kid you not. And as I hear these announcements that confirm how utterly precious our American brats are, I think of the poor kids in Iraq. In pain, without medicine. Subject to cluster bombs. Deplete uranium to play with as a toy. The birth defects because of it. And I think, we are a nation of damned idiots. So careful, yet so blind. Blind on purpose. How else could they not see? We're bombing a nation aren't we? They'd have to have shit for brains to think that those bombs aren't hitting kids. Not even that, but the thought of a young Iraqi/Afghani child in bed at night, scared out of his mind. Scared shitless. America, you suck.

[katinmn]

50. You and I see these children and their fathers as people like ourselves.

We see children who had laughed and giggled and chased each other and were the one thing that brought joy to their parents in a war ravaged nation. We see heart-broken fathers deeply grieving for their beloved children. We feel their loss and sense of bewilderment and coming outrage. We know that their lives will never recover.

Other Americans look at the picture and see rag dolls and rag heads. Who are these people born without compassion? I don't want to know them.

[WinkyDink]

43. they said netted an insurgent suspect

How very much is wrong with those few words.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

46. Yes. All through it's blood soaked history.

[Imagevision]

49. Bush- we'll give them freedom if we have to shove it down their throats