We KNOW Kerry supports censure - hound those not supporting it and

[blm]

get the hell off Kerry's back today while he's leading the battle on ANWR.

GOPs are attacking ANWR in the Senate today knowing full well that Dem activists and left leaning blogs are distracted.

Why the hell there are so many posts attacking Kerry, who we already know is supporting censure, is just beyond suspicion.

Kerry has always been the lead for Dems on ANWR.

Make your calls on censure, but if you're making calls to senate offices BOTH Dem and Republican, don't FORGET about ANWR.

[WildEyedLiberal]

1. Those people are trolls, blm.

Trolls trolls trolls trolls trolls.

Of course, another thread pointing this out doesn't hurt :evilgrin:

[blm]

11. They can slso be folks with a narrow agenda or no sense of priorities

Hard to believe they're all trolls.

[mzmolly]

26. Trolls or idiots.

;)

[sasha031]

2. thank you, could not have stated that better myself

everyone has to call their Senators to block ANWAR!

[blm]

22. Update on that - Debate delayed to tomorrow. Looks like Repubs are

the ones caught unprepared.

[tridim]

3. I keep wondering (hoping) that the Dems are playing rope-a-dope

with the Pukes. It's a possibility.

[blm]

8. Hard to tell. I just don't want GOPs to sneak past us on this and with

the media helping them every step of the way.

[Blaukraut]

4. Thank you blm

I always thought we Dems can walk and chew gum at the same time - multitask, no? JK certainly can do both; support Russ in his censure effort and lead the battle on ANWR.

[blm]

14. Well, it's the whole idea of TARGETING him that really struck me as odd

considering that DUers who called his office were told that Kerry supported censure, and that a press release would be forthcoming, but ANWR is going on NOW.

[John Q. Citizen]

5. For crying out loud. Why does all of our activism only target

Democrats. Don't get me wrong, some of our actions should target Democrats. But I have no memory of major cyber action that target's the Republicans.

Does Snowe support censure? Who knows, who cares, who'se botherred to ask? If she doesn't, why not?

Same for the whole Republican Senate. What's the point of picking on Democrats, even if a few would actually oppose censure? We should pick on the Republicans because we need their votes far more than Democrats to pass censure.


I bet Republicans have litte or no idea about how DUers feel about any issue.

[blm]

6. I hear you loud and clear. GOP senators need to feel pressure, too.

Especially now.

[Sick_of_Rethuggery]

7. It is not picking on Dems in one sense...

in that we may just be giving them the public support they need -- remember, they are our representatives...

[blm]

9. Absolutely. And that's the best way to approach it for us, too.

.

[John Q. Citizen]

10. But what do we win if every Dem Senator votes for censure?

The Repos hold the majority and censure will fail at this time.

So, what I'm saying is there needs to be a good reason and stratedgy to undertake what we already know is a losing fight at this time.

I would posit our mid term goal should be to take back one or both houses of Congress, because without that, we are lost.

Organizing principles don't require that an issue is winnable in the short term, mid term or long term, but they do require that something is gained by the struggle.

I am in favor of censuring and impeaching the pres and VP, however I believe we should be mostly consentrating our efforts on the Republicans who are able to deliver due to their majority. I also know they won't deliver, and I believe we could use this struggle to help win the mid-term elections.

I could actually care less right now if Kerry or Clinton, or Liebermann sign on or not. I am more interested in having my Repo Senator (Burns R-MT) out there explaining why he won't support censure. Does it have anything to do with his general disregard for the law of the land? Inquiering minds want to know.

[EFerrari]

13. It might not be a bad idea to start a thread for DUers with Thug reps.

They could use some support in making these calls.

:)

/typo

[blm]

15. Boy howdy....NC has a couple of doozies you may have heard of.

Liddy "the Lapdog" Dole

Richard Fascist Burr.

[EFerrari]

16. So, a thread for DUers who have to call these ghouls

might not be a bad idea? To generate stratergeries, lol, and a bit of back up.

[blm]

18. Go for it.

To paraphrase a certain felt character - It ain't easy being red.

[EFerrari]

19. It would be more useful. imho, if somene from an actual red state

posted it.

I've got Boxer and Feinstein. Boxer's people are always great. (Thank you, Boxer's people!) And Feinstein's are always rude.

But, that can't be the same experience as calling Specter or Sessions or Graham.

So, I'd like to defer to people who are on the ground in those places, as having a unique perspective. Supporting the thread, of course.

[EFerrari]

12. DUers were calling their Thug senators this week.

I give them all the credit in the world because it can be hard to call them.

Let's not forget that and let's give credit where it's due. :)

[Pacifist Patriot]

27. Psst

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=665992&mesg_id=665992

[John Q. Citizen]

29. Nice thread and so true. n/t

[JanusAscending]

30. I agree!!

Especially after the way she ( Sen. Snow) was "sandbagged" today on the Senate floor by "one of her own" She was presenting her amendment on the floor and they cut her off and wouldn't allow her one more minute to finish her statement!! She was apoplectic!!! Waving her hands and yelling so loud at a circle of Repukes surrounding her, that you could hear her over the normal "din" of the Senate floor!! I'm pretty sure her and Dorgans amendment passed, but I really found myself feeling sorry for her. Hope she sees the light and votes with the left side from now on just as payback to these bastards!!:bounce:

[blm]

33. Are you kidding? They did it to her AGAIN? Definitely target her on this

she is a likely ally here.

[JanusAscending]

34. Hope everyone does this!

I noticed the next day, she was voting with "us" on a lot of ammendments! We NEED all the votes we can get! My head is ready to EXPLODE because of all the "rubber stamping" bullshit! DC

[Imagevision]

17. Calling Murtha -- Calling Kenedy!!!

[blm]

20. Call Republicans, too. make them answer. Put pressure on them.

.

[blm]

21. GOOD NEWS - ANWR delayed until tomorrow - hopefully our presence was felt.

Stay on your senators.

http://rawstory.com/comments/12498.html

[autorank]

23. Kerry's 10 points, Kerry supports Feingold, Kerry stays on ANWR--my man!

Big picture time.

Who supported Russ on censure? It's a serious question. I've been pressed.

However, Kerry's there. The rest...well, they need to learn a key term:

"clear the bench, our guys in trouble." Kerry is multi - tasking. I like it!

[blm]

32. I think they'll be there. It's in committee now so let em have at it there

that's exactly what Feingold wanted.

Remember, it's the GOPs who wanted to rush this to vote - Feingold and the Dems are wanting EXTENDED DEBATE on it.

[CovertOP]

24. Call me old school but

In my book.
Lying to the American public to start a war is an impeachable offense.
The performance of the government after Katrina is an impeachable offense.
Torture in violation of the Geneva Conventions is an impeachable offense.
Planning, executing, and then covering up the events of 911 is an impeachable offense.
Wire tapping, data mining America citizens an openly, blatanly and with total distain for the rubber stamp FISA court is an impeachable offense.
No bid contracts for Halliburton is an impeachable offense.
The Downing Street Minutes are an impeachable offense.
The designed destruction of America in EVERYTHING this administration does is an impeachable offense.
Censure? WTF?

[blm]

31. Impeachment is MY remedy of choice, but now that Feingold started this we

need to support it, because not supporting him sends the exact same message Kerry has been screwed over with for two decades = Dems don't back up each other at crucial times.

[jillan]

25. You go girl

Well said!

[Trevelyan]

28. Impeachment info:

http://constantpated.blogspot.com/2006/01/impeachment-how-to-impeach-bush.html

http://hammeroftruth.com/2006/01/25/white-house-sees-shadow-six-weeks-of-impeachment-predicted/#comments

http://hammeroftruth.com/2006/01/18/media-alert-forum-on-the-impeachment-of-president-george-w-bush-and-vice-president-dick-cheney/