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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:33 PM
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House Bill to condemn 'anti-democratic' Chavez in committee vote Thursday
Edited on Wed Mar-15-06 09:35 PM by meganmonkey
Condemning the anti-democratic actions of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and expressing the sense of Congress that the United States should strongly support the aspirations of the democratic forces in Venezuela.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas

Essentially this bill would mean the US would fund Venezuelan opposition groups - to oppose a democratically elected leader of a sovereign nation. This is not right!!!

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Venezuela Information Office asks for your help!
By Urgent Reqest
Mar 15, 2006, 04:51

H. Con. Res. 328 will be voted on this week!
Your calls are needed in Congress today
Congressional Switchboard: 202-224-3121

Friends,

We just received word that H. Con. Resolution 328 will be up for a subcommittee vote this Thursday, March 16. Your help is needed to stop this intellectually dishonest, anti-Venezuela resolution. Please call Congress today!
What is H.Con. Res. 328?
Sponsored by Rep. Connie Mack (R-FL), H. Con. Res. 328 is a misguided and factually inaccurate resolution that condemns Venezuela and recommends funding of Venezuelan opposition parties, in direct violation of Venezuelan law.
The resolution contains so many factual inaccuracies that it should be an embarrassment for most members of Congress to support. For a full description of the errors, half-truths and misstatements please see our fact sheet.

What you can do:
Please call Representative Eliot Engel today. This New York Democrat is the ranking member of the House Subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere, which will be taking up the vote. The Congressional Switchboard can patch you through to his office. Call 202-224-3121 today and do the following:
1) Ask to speak to Congressman Eliot Engel's Office
2) When the receptionist answers, ask to speak to the Legislative Aide who works on Venezuela issues.
3) If you speak to the aide directly, ask him/her to recommend that Rep. Engel speak out against H. Con. Res. 328 in the subcommittee. If you are put into voicemail, please leave a message. Here are some points to consider for your discussion:

* The resolution is inaccurate. Among other things:

The resolution states that President Chavez rewrote the Venezuelan Constitution, when in fact it was drafted and approved through a democratic process;

It argues that President Chavez has taken control of the National Assembly, when in fact opposition parties made a decision not to participate in the most recent elections;

It contradicts the 2005 U.S. State Department report that Venezuela has a open and vigorous media; and

It claims that President Chavez "is supporting radical forces" in Bolivia and Colombia. The inclusion of Bolivia seems to be referring to the democratically-elected president of that country, Evo Morales, who, while a socialist, is supported and recognized by every country in Latin America. And the Colombia example refers to never-proven allegations of links to FARC rebels--a charge which is not even supported by the conservative President of Colombia, Alvaro Uribe.
* The U.S. must have a sane policy toward Venezuela. Last month, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld compared President Chavez to Hitler. Just last week, a California academic was harassed by FBI agents for his support of Venezuela's democratically-elected government. Clearly, the House needs bring a level of sanity back to our discussion of Venezuela.

* If we truly believe in the principles of democracy, the U.S. should not be advocating funding for opposition parties in other countries.


NOTE: Rep. Engel is new to the Western Hemisphere Subcommittee. He will likely vote the right way on this bill, but he needs to be educated in order to be able to speak out against H. Con. Res. 328.
4) Forward this message on to five friends and ask them to make a similar call.
5) Post this message on listservs that you belong to and get the word out!

Venezuela Information Office
2000 P Street NW, Ste. 240
Washington, DC, 20036
(202) 347-8081
Eric Wingerter, Public Education Director


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NOTE: The Venezuela Information Office is dedicated to informing the American public about contemporary Venezuela, and receives its funding from the government of Venezuela. More information is available from the FARA office of the Department of Justice in Washington DC.
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mods: based on #5 at the bottom of this statement, I believe permission to reprint in full is given
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:34 PM
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1. Insane
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:42 PM
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2. I stand with Chavez. This is awful.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:43 PM
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3. How about if we just mind our own fucking business?
Jesus, don't they have anything better to do with their time down there in Washington?

Redstone
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:50 PM
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14. Totally agree....
Just who the fuck are we to call countries 'axis of evil' or to condemn nations or leaders?

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:58 PM
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15. Especially ELECTED leaders. The Venezuelans VOTED for him.
He didn't just walk in and take over.

Redstone
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:45 PM
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4. This is absolute BULLSHIT!!!!
I'll never vote for ANYONE who does not strike this down.

I am so tired of this Chavez misinformation!!
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:45 PM
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5. The Repuke don't like Chavez because he doesn't want to follow their
model of selling out Venezuela's oil supplies to multi-national corporations. Yet it's OK for chimp to sell our ports to Dubai. More double standard bull shit from our group of sell outs.
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PVK Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:49 PM
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6. I'll call!!!! I LOVE CHAVEZ!!! n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:54 PM
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7. THIS IS FUCKED UP!
Chavez stand with the people of America. He is anti-bush policies, how fucking hard is that to understand?? Lou Dobbs does not help with his nightly "anti-american chavez" remarks.

:grr:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:04 PM
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8. I wonder how much this has to do with the embarrassment
our gov't feels from Chavez providing discounted oil in our poor neighborhoods?

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:19 PM
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9. It is against Venezuelan law for Venezuelans to accept foreign money for
political campaigns within Venezuela. So, for one thing, Congress would be actively engaging in violating the quite reasonable laws (we have such laws here, too) of another country. There is an interesting case about it in the Venezuelan courts--dirty Bush junta/US money used by the opposition in the US-backed recall against Chavez (and there is a separate murder case involved as well--car bomb that killed an investigator who was looking into the Bush/US money connection).

Here's an excellent news/opinion web site: www.venezuelanalysis.com
And an article about the trial: http://venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1892

The irony is that Hugo Chavez is far more elected than George Bush ever was. Chavez was elected, and then re-elected, by big majorities (56-58%--ish) in a US-supported recall election, the most heavily monitored election in the world, with hundreds of observers from the Carter Center, EU election groups, and the OAS--all of whom declared the election fair and square. They have OPEN SOURCE CODE in Venezuela's electronic voting system--that is, anyone may review the computer code by which the votes are tabulated, unlike in the U.S., where, ever since the electronic voting scam, the so-called "Help America Vote Act," brought to us by the two biggest crooks in Congress, Tom Delay and Bob Ney, during the 2001-2004 period, our votes have been "tabulated" by "TRADE SECRET," PROPRIETARY programming code, owned and controlled by two rightwing, Bushite corporations, Diebold and ES&S.

Transparent elections = good, leftist government, of, by and for the people.

Non-transparent elections = the Bush junta.

It's a no-brainer.

Anyway, Chavez is hugely popular in Venezuela because he is a believer in the Constitution and the rule of law, and is a socialist who believes that some of Venezuela's oil wealth should, at long last, be used to benefit Venezuela's vast poor population.

The Bush junta doesn't want anybody like that to have control of any oil anywhere. They want mean, greedy, blackhearted SOB's like themselves controlling all the oil.

That, too, is a no-brainer.

The revolution that has occurred in Latin America over the last several years is deeply rooted and unstoppable. It is profoundly democratic and peaceful. And it is historic. Virtually the entire map of South America has turned "blue', with leftist governments elected in Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Venezuela and Bolivia. Peru will likely be next. And this revolution is moving north. Mexico will likely elect the leftist mayor of Mexico City as president this year. Chile just elected its first woman president, socialist Michele Batchelet, who was tortured by the US-supported dictator Pinochet. Bolivia just elected its first indigenous Indian president, socialist Evo Morales--after a grass roots uprising against Bechel, which had privatized the water in one Bolivian city and jacked up prices to the poor--for water! The Bolivians threw Bechtel out of their country, and elected former coca leaf grower Evo Morales, who also opposes the murderous US "war on drugs." All of these governments have a common theme--anti-imperialist and anti-Bush and his dirty war (but they are NOT especially anti-American--they are very familiar with dictatorships and are well aware that we are suffering under one).

Chavez is not alone. Billions and billions of South Americans share his views, and have done the hard civic work of establishing democracy and reclaiming their countries from those who would exploit and enslave them.

If the Bush junta--and its "pod people" in Congress--keep this anti-Chavez stuff up, they may get the U.S. boycotted by a Latin American trade alliance. Think about THAT!

Via Hugo! Viva Evo! Viva Michele! Viva Lulu! Viva Ollanta (Peru) and Amlo (Mexico)! Viva Latin America! Viva the revolution!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:21 PM
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10. Thanks PP!
Great links and info!

We gotta counter the propaganda.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:35 PM
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11. Bush is Jealous because Hugo actually won his elections. K&R
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:47 PM
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12. K&R
Viva Chavez!

Lets do a quick inventory.


Chavez is:
*Feeding the Hungry
*Healing the Sick
*Sheltering the Homeless
*Educating the Ignorant

Hell's Bells...No wonder the Republicans (and some Democrats) are upset.
If something like this spreads North, the USA (as we know it) will cease to exist.

Imagine using the Natural Resources of a nation to provide for the CommonWealth instead of enriching the privileged few!!!!

The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.


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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:48 PM
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13. Can't censure Bush but will condemn Chavez.
Will not take care of business at home but are willing interfere in other countries.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:21 AM
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16. K&R! n/t
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:56 AM
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17. Kick for the morning crowd!
:patriot:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:11 AM
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18. The radicals are in OUR government and it looks like
they're fixing to fund some "freedom fighters" in Venezuela.

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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:06 AM
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19. Kick! This type of interference in a duly elected is just wrong.
The administration's claims of trying to spread democracy are so bogus. Thanks for this post.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:39 AM
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20. I want some Dems in Congress to DETAIL
all the steps that Chavez took to ensure fair and validated elections and compare them to the things the GOP opposes HERE. Probably won't happen because the democrats look like saps for not insisting and getting, like Chavez's DC backed, phony poll propped foes, verification and review of the votes. And Chavez won decisively.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:59 PM
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21. For example, international monitors
which we would not allow here for 2004, but Venezuela allowed.

Hmmm....

:grr:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 05:22 PM
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22. we need them here in OHIO
Fla. is lost, methinks
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