Talon News Remixed?

[libertypirate]

A pattern that stood out in the past, Talon News has morphed into something else that isn’t very clever. The result of this technique is to utilize the pre-defined ranking factors established by the news search engines to manage story placement, order, and presentation in effect to control coverage.

Automated computer systems which manage information away from peering eyes are inherently corruptible because of their predictability along with only a small few people that understand how they work; despite all of the knowledge being in the public domain.

I will focus on this story I read in the early morning hours Tuesday March 14

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060314/ts_nm/iraq_american_dc

In general terms the use of surrogate, news shell organizations is produced to manipulate the ranking of legitimate information. They use similar layouts, systems, and technologies to manage the ranking schemes. As well each site notably is no frills, something of a generic advertisement, and very limited amount of primarily a days worth of content. Please visit the links yourself; the layouts and information are identical.

http://www.localnewsleader.com/brocktown/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=157593
I couldn’t find Brocktown, NV in a google search or a Google Earth search. I can’t find it in google but it has an online news service?

I can find a city with only 20 residents using Google Earth but I can’t find a city with an online news paper?

Link style and information patterns.

These are the links I pulled off of a google search.

http://www.heraldnewsdaily.com/stories/news-00158129.html
http://www.leadingthecharge.com/stories/news-00157593.html
This news agency is not mentioned in the Australian online news listings. A news source from Australia, there will be a test latter on this fact.

http://www.localnewsleader.com/kindred/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=157593
http://www.newsone.ca/piercelandherald/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=157593
http://www.newsone.ca/westfallweeklynews/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=157593
http://localnewsleader.com/jackson/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=157593
http://www.localnewsleader.com/elytimes/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=157593
http://www.localnewsleader.com/olberlin/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=157593
http://www.newsone.ca/westfallweeklynews/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=158129

In most the links provided the reference ID is the same value. All follow a redundant pattern indicating the same logic was used to produce these sites in bulk, the use of the same ID value tells me the reference the same row in a shared data source.


These links are distinctly different from either to the story published on Yahoo, and the stories source Reuters.
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2006-03-14T164522Z_01_OLI434593_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-AMERICAN.xml&archived=False

WHOIS Domain lookup

Domain Name: LOCALNEWSLEADER.COM
Registrar: NAMESCOUT CORP
Whois Server: whois.namescout.com
Referral URL: http://www.namescout.com
Name Server: NS1.LOOSEFOOT.COM
Name Server: NS2.LOOSEFOOT.COM
IP 207.195.54.82


Domain Name: newsone.ca
Registry: Canadian Internet Registration Authority - http://www.cira.ca
Registrar: DomainsAtCost Corp. - http://www.domainsatcost.ca
Whois Server: whois.cira.ca
Name Server NS1.LOOSEFOOT.COM 207.195.54.253
Name Server NS2.LOOSEFOOT.COM 207.195.54.254
Updated Date: 29-Jan-2006
Creation Date: 03-Jun-2005
Expiration Date: 03-Jun-2006
IP 207.195.54.74

Domain Name: HERALDNEWSDAILY.COM
Registrar: NAMESCOUT CORP
Whois Server: whois.namescout.com
Referral URL: http://www.namescout.com
Name Server: NS1.LOOSEFOOT.COM
Name Server: NS2.LOOSEFOOT.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 03-sep-2005
Creation Date: 03-sep-2005
Expiration Date: 03-sep-2006
IP 207.195.54.74

Domain Name: LEADINGTHECHARGE.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS1.LOOSEFOOT.COM
Name Server: NS2.LOOSEFOOT.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 15-jan-2006
Creation Date: 24-jan-2005
Expiration Date: 24-jan-2009
IP 207.195.54.74

These sites despite appearing from different geographical regions share similar address space. What makes this particular factoid interesting is IP addresses are distributed to telecoms in blocks. These addresses are from the same space and likely on the same server.


OrgName: SaskTel
OrgID: SASK
Address: c/o Sasknet Policy
Address: 8th Flr 2121 Saskatchewan Dr
City: Regina
StateProv: SK
PostalCode: S4P-3Y2
Country: CA

NetRange: 207.195.0.0 - 207.195.127.255
CIDR: 207.195.0.0/17
NetName: SASK002

The range or block of addresses belongs to SaskTel a telecom company in Canada.
http://www.sasktel.com/


They look the same, served up from the same place, and present the exact same information associated to some places that don't even exist and to places that do from all around the world.

[Canuckistanian]

1. Wow. What does it mean?

If they're all providing the same content using the same servers, why the sham?

These small services can't possibly have an effect, could they?

Cui bono here?

[libertypirate]

8. They replicate facts asserted to and not proven, and usually with

no one's name identified as the source of the information....

In this case to understand who benifit, understand the the original story didn't include the denial that the soldier had explosives. There is an other interesting line in the story.

"American security personnel rarely travel alone."

So why is this guy traveling alone carring explosives as first reported?

I would rather not trust the truth comming from nobody.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

2. Interesting. But have you seen this?

From the front page of http://localnewsleader.com/ ...

Local News Leader
Providing news web sites for small towns everywhere.

Easy news posting: Post news anywhere there is a web connection
Your own news website: localnewsleader.com/yourtown
eMail address: [e-mail]
New!: Upload your own masthead graphic!

Your committment: Post a news story everyday

Cost: Free to qualified community web editors

If you would like to have a free website to post
news in your community, contact us Here.

[file83]

3. Well, then who in the hell is setting up news sites for cities that don't

even exist? Why would anyone do that? :shrug:

[libertypirate]

9. Someone who preffers the second version of the story over the orriginal

and isn't a member of a legit news organization.

[libertypirate]

7. The apperance of openness isn't...

These sites are hosted within the same space in canada, and are not full featured news applications. They are shells running off the same source of data, using the same layouts, and all replicating the same content. Oh and one other thing no history, something of Talon News redux if you ask me.

These aren't even in the same vicinity as legitamate news organizations, frankly just knowing that one of them the town doesn't even exist proves that beyound reason.

[file83]

4. Brocktown....

From their news homepage:

Brocktown News Journal

A weekly print publication by the Nevada Publishing Group.

Sam Evans, Publisher
Darren Tate, Editor
John Rattay, Reporter
Karen Spratt, Reporter

Brocktown News Online publishes a local news story every day. Come see us again. For complete Brocktown and surrounding county coverage pick up a Brocktown Weekly News Journal at a store near you.

(source: http://www.localnewsleader.com/brocktown/)

When you Google ""Brocktown Weekly News Journal"", nothing comes up. ZERO hits.

But when you Google ""Brocktown News"", their site is ALL OVER THE WEB. But they aren't writing anything. They must be making money off of Google web ads or something. Shit, maybe I should get into this scam! I'll just make up some city that doesn't exist and then the web bots from Google News will start sending people my way.

This is a very scary flow of information. It's all automated now - one fake story could get replicated all over the internet instantly. Hmmm....

[SeveneightyWhoa]

5. Whoa!

Verrrry weird..

This is a very interesting find.

[file83]

10. Google "Nevada Publishing Group" -- doesn't exist either

Try it : "Nevada Publishing Group"

I'm gonna do some "zoom info" on the names in that list (was too tired last night).

[libertypirate]

6. one fake story - - It's never a fully faked story

Only a couple of changed facts, an altered truth here and there, usually like in this news story a unnamed person changes a couple of facts around.

[libertypirate]

11. Let’s do round II: Talon News Remixed and Mixed.... What a mess

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x683061

:) Have a nice day! :)