What is cheaper - contraceptives or raising the child?

[liberal N proud]

We need to hit the fundies on their fiscal conservative side they claim to have.

Insurance companies will not cover birth control pills or any other type of contraceptives.
The government is working to ban funds for any birth control or contraceptives, but at the same time they will not pay for prenatal care.

The cost to raise a child today is between $125,000 and $250,000 dollars. And that is if there are no health problems.
The Cost of Raising Children http://moneycentral.msn.com/articles/family/kids/tlkidscost.asp

The cost of birth control pills each month is $20 - $50. That cost would be between $4,000 and $10,000 over the course of 18 years.

If the fundamentalist Christian radicals didn't have such a strangle-hold on this nation look at the dollars that could be saved.

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Not the strongest argument regarding abortion, IMO.

I believe that the fundies really want to curtail, if not ban, abortion to halt the continuation of recreational sex, that is, sex for reasons other than having children (procreation). This is for two reasons:

1. The Bible (theirs and their interpretation) "says" that (their) God commands that coitus be utilized only to make babies who will be raised to be God-fearing. Any other reason for sex is mocking (their) God.

2. Biblical accountability for one's actions. Let's say you go the recreational sex route, and the female conceives. The fundies want you to bear that zygote and show the community your badge of shame (remember Hawthorne's The Scarlet Letter?) Either you get married or your kid is known as a bastard and is scorned. And in a lot of cases, either option is a kind of punishment for your "weakness of the flesh" (see Genesis and the Garden of Eden).

And the fundies are just warming up. Next comes contraception. Go back to the no-recreational-sex guide to Puritanism.

That's the kind of world they want by making abortion improbable/impossible.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

2. er...uh...

1. The Bible (theirs and their interpretation) "says" that (their) God commands that coitus be utilized only to make babies who will be raised to be God-fearing. Any other reason for sex is mocking (their) God.

Where exactly in the bible is it stated that sex is ONLY for procreation? I get the part about raising children as 'God-fearing', but that mocking part...well...

sP

[no_hypocrisy]

4. Not directly on topic, but here are a couple of passages where one

can extrapolate the edict:

Genesis 3:16 - Unto the woman (the Lord God) said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children.

Genesis 1:28 - And God blessed (Adam and Eve), and God said unto them, Be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it.

Here's an essay bolstering your point.
http://www.gnmagazine.org/booklets/FM/procreation.htm

My premise remains it's the fundies' use and misuse of the Bible to further their own ends to return us to a Puritanical society.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

8. ok...but I guess in all the reading of the Bible

I have done over the years...there is nothing about sex only as a means of procreation...I mean, the Song of Solomon talks at length about the pleasures to be found in the opposite sex...why so much focus on pleasure? And why can't people see that? As a non-literalist fundie myself, it is PLAIN AS DAY that sex was also meant for pleasure...

Thanks for the reasoned reply...and I even think the web-link you provided gets at it simply...

sP

[liberal N proud]

12. Smorgasbord Christianity

Use only the parts of the bible that meets your needs.

[sam sarrha]

3. just saying NO! is cheapest.... my wife saves a bundle

[formercia]

5. And who has to pay for raising the child?

In many cases, the burden falls on the taxpayer.

[raccoon]

6. Yeah, the insurance companies won't pay for birth control pills,

but they'll pay for Viagra. You've come a long way, baby. :sarcasm:

What galls me is the people who don't want the governmetn for pay for contraception are the same people that scream and holler about welfare.

[liberal N proud]

7. Exactly! - They are pro-birth but don't want to do anything for that child

once he/she is part of the human mess.

[Karenina]

9. What I simply CANNOT understand

is why ANYONE would demand an UNWANTED child be born into this mess. :shrug:

[uppityperson]

13. because someone, somewhere, wants every child.

especially perfect white babies. That is their rationale. Oh, and because they said so.

[newportdadde]

10. Insurance doesn't pay for BC?? Ours does.

We still have the co-pay of course but basically we were out 6 dollars a month generic or 20 bucks a month for the non generic pill my wife is on now while she is nursing.

[liberal N proud]

11. They did a few years ago, then wham, the fundies got a hold of them

Low and behold no more.