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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:16 AM
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Vehicle Mounted Active Denial System aka The Pain Ray for Crowd Control
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 09:16 AM by KyndCulture
Vehicle-Mounted Active Denial System (V-MADS)

Active Denial Technology is a breakthrough non-lethal technology that uses millimeter-wave electromagnetic energy to stop, deter and turn back an advancing adversary from relatively long range. It is expected to save countless lives by providing a way to stop individuals without causing injury, before a deadly confrontation develops.

The technology was developed by the Air Force Research Laboratory and the Department of Defense's Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate. Approximately $40 million has been spent on this technology over the past ten years.

In July 2005 it was reported that the Active Denial System would be deployed to Iraq before the end of the year. Under an initiative called Project Sheriff, troops will receive a total of 15 vehicles.

This non-lethal technology was developed in response to Department of Defense needs for field commanders to have options short of the use of deadly force. Non-lethal technologies can be used for protection of Defense resources, peacekeeping, humanitarian missions and other situations in which the use of lethal force is undesirable. The system is intended to protect military personnel against small-arms fire, which is generally taken to mean a range of 1,000 meters. The system is described as having a range of 700 yards.

Countermeasures against the weapon could be quite straightforward — for example covering up the body with thick clothes or carrying a metallic sheet — or even a trash can lid — as a shield or reflector. Also unclear is how the active-denial technology would work in rainy, foggy or sea-spray conditions where the beam's energy could be absorbed by water in the atmosphere.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/v-mads.htm




The CALIFORNIA CENTER for STRATEGIC STUDIES is once again "breaking new ground" and has begun building a national grassroots movement against deploying America's new nightmarish weapon, the "PAIN RAY" - a dire threat to our hopes for a more secure, humane and peaceful world (not to mention American civil liberties), if ever there was one.

Please take a few moments to learn more about the Pain Ray by exploring two of our Center's recent op-eds exploring the dangerous new weapon, as well as a nationally syndicated news article crediting our organization with helping lead the fight against its deployment in Iraq.

http://www.thecaliforniacenter.org/painray.php
(There's links to a many other articles on this site)


Petition to stop this weapon:
http://www.petitiononline.com/painray/petition.html
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Ok I've been reading up on this thing. Appearantly what it does is make someone feel like they have a hot iron burning their skin from the inside out.

Maybe it's tinfoil but it seems to me if our government intends to use this weapon in Iraq for crowd control, they damn skippy would use it on a few hundred thousand angry anti war protestors....

What do you guys make of this?

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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:21 AM
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1. I signed the petition . . .
. . . but sheesh, somebody hold me!

:scared:

Wait! I've got a trash can lid! Whew, that's a relief . . .
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:22 AM
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2. it is for crowd control. The ONLY reason to develop such a weapon is if
they anticipate large groups of people opposing them. That could be insurgents, or it could be quakers armed with peace leaflets.

I'm going with that they will TEST it on insurgents but USE it to control the US population.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:25 AM
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3. That's completely what I got out reading all that...
They SAY it's for Iraq, but they have already tested this on people and animals (sick fucks) here in the US..

There's nothing to say that they wouldn't use it to control a large protest crowd.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:27 AM
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4. This weapon was created
USMC Commandant General Charles Krulak and others talked about the need to control crowds when US Forces are sent galavanting around the globe. Much of the ground based ideas came about because of after action reports from NEOs (Non-Combat Evacuation Operations) and MOOTW (Military Operations Other Than War) in Liberia '97, Haiti '94.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:29 AM
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5. Right and that's a sound military strategy I suppose..
but this admin does not make sound military strategy.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:34 AM
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10. Oh, I wouldn't want to be in DC
when this admin deploys this weapon on the streets of the Capital.

I just know a small bit of the weapons creation.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:30 AM
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6. Soon coming to an anti-war demonstration near you.
Yeah, this will be tested and perfected overseas first, but soon it will make an appearance over here.

But if I'm reading this right, wearing a tin foil body suit will counter attack the effects of this? How very ironic, and quite funny:rofl:
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:32 AM
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9. I know! I had to read that a few times to let the irony sink in..
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:31 AM
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7. Looks like my tinfoil hat will come in handy after all
Now I just have to make a whole suit.

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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:37 AM
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14. Wow. Great minds, and all that...
I posted the same thing.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:31 AM
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8. It's definately time for this...


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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:34 AM
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11. I think appropriate counter measures will be easy to devise.
You are spot on though, this is for us. Much better than fire hoses, used in combination with their new super lubricant which they spray on the ground in front of a crowd making it impossible to advance.

Check out this investigatory technologies statement from a 1997 paper. I saw a demo tape on the lubricant a few years ago at FT Sam Houston, worked real good.
snip>
Technologies

The technologies publicly known to be under investigation fall into four broad military categories with two principle targets: Anti-personnel and anti-military equipment (some, however, having anti-personnel utility). The categories are anti-sensor, anti-mobility, anti-C4I, and anti-infrastructure. Some of my personal favorites include:

Super Lubricants: Ala James Bond, these can create a slick making it nearly impossible to walk much less operate a vehicle or land a plane.

Super Adhesives: Lend new meaning to the phrase "stick 'em up". Depending upon application (direct spray, bomb or artillery round), they can immobilize people, and turn military hardware into giant paperweights.

Anesthetics: Short term drugs administerable by injection (darts), inhalants (gas), and/or skin contact (sprays): consider it the humane way to bomb your adversary.

Acoustics: Low frequency, high decibel infrasound from high power acoustic generators can cause blurred vision, extreme nausea and even death. Additionally, it can be used to cause metal fatigue, thermal damage and delamination of composite materials. (Noriega only got loud music).

VSI: (Visual Stimulation and Illusion) includes an array of devices. One system utilizes banks of strobe lights flashing at the frequency of brain wave patterns. This can cause vertigo, nausea and disorientation. (The humane way to make your adversary see the light).

http://www.usafa.af.mil/jscope/JSCOPE97/Gordon97.htm
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:34 AM
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12. C'mon people it SAVES lives!!!! It's good for you - you'll like it!!! n/
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:36 AM
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13. So my tinfoil hat may come in handy after all?
Countermeasures against the weapon could be quite straightforward — for example covering up the body with thick clothes or carrying a metallic sheet — or even a trash can lid — as a shield or reflector.

...............................................

WTF is wrong with these people? Were dogs and firehoses not good enough for them? When will my local police department have these?

And does anyone seriously believe that these will saves lives in Iraq by stopping suspected suicide bombers before they can get to checkpoints?
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:38 AM
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15. Well, I'm stocking up on the tin foil, then.
They would LOVE to use this against protesters and it seems as though they anticipate large crowds moving against them. Hmm, I wonder why. Maybe they have no intentions of * leaving office when his term is up. Who knows.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:45 AM
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17. Now that's a terrifying thought...
or a protest concurrent with the reinstatement of the draft lottery perhaps.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:54 AM
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19. The draft ... that's a possibility, too.
After all the outrageous things this administration has done, you have to wonder what they think would be so far out there that people would be out in the streets against them. Scary.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:39 AM
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16. hmmmmm... me thinks me will buy stock in tinfoil...alcoa?
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:49 AM
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18. Foiled leather
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:17 PM
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20. kick for the afternoon.
:kick:
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