Bet on a Bet but Not on a Ballot - Washington Post

[helderheid]

It's easier to rig an electronic voting machine than a Las Vegas slot machine, says University of Pennsylvania visiting professor Steve Freeman.

That's because Vegas slots are better monitored and regulated than America's voting machines, Freeman writes in a book out in July that argues, among other things, that President Bush may owe his last win to an unfair vote count.

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We'll wait to read "Was the 2004 Presidential Election Stolen? Exit Polls, Election Fraud, and the Official Count" before making a judgment about that. But Freeman has assembled comparisons that suggest Americans protect their vices more than they guard their voting rights, according to data he presented at an October meeting of the American Statistical Association chapter in Philadelphia.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/15/AR2006031502318.html

[helderheid]

1. self kick - this is short, sweet, and to the point.

[rpgamerd00d]

2. That is pretty damn sad.

[helderheid]

3. how fucked up are our priorities in this nation??

[rpgamerd00d]

4. This is exactly the kind of simple example we need to get this...

... into the MSM

[EFerrari]

5. Good God. Does anyone remember Carol Burnett's old joke?

"The only way to break even in Vegas is to use the pay toilets."

And, Freeman says American voting machines aren't even *THAT* secure.

But, let's wait until we take back the House to make it an issue -- oops.

[helderheid]

6. LOL - yea, why can't people get that taking back the house is harder

than winning in Vegas?

[helderheid]

7. kick because I added a nifty graphic - print and distribute!!

[EFerrari]

8. That is a pretty powerful visual aid! n/t

[helderheid]

10. I just emailed it to my lists, those at my state Dem party HQ, my county

clerk, etc. :)

[rpgamerd00d]

12. Wow, nice gfx !

[converted_democrat]

9. At least a MSM is finally talking about it.. That's a good sign..n/t

[KittyWampus]

11. The NYTimes ran an entire series of editorials about BBV

trouble is, DU'ers didn't run with it at the time.

[helderheid]

13. missed that!

[annabanana]

14. great graphic!

Clear, precise and easy to read & understand. And in WaPo at that! Are we finally getting any closer to a real national discussion on the vital, vital issue?

[annabanana]

15. email that graphic... it's a keeper. . . .eom

[glitch]

16. K & R! That graphic will make a great flyer at our county caucus! nt

[helderheid]

19. Oh EXCELLENT! Ours is on Tuesday - I will hand it out!

[bleever]

17. So very kicked and recommended.

Thanks, helderheid!

[mom cat]

18. Kick for TIA! Get well buddy. You need to be able to fully celebrate this.

Our prayers are with you. :grouphug:

[helderheid]

20. any updates on our dear TIA?

[mom cat]

29. Not that I have heard. I am hoping that no news is good news.

Just keep the love and prayers flowing.

[SoCalDem]

21. Great article & graphic...BUT here it is a few months before yet another

election an no one in charge seems to be even noticing there is a problem.. They are running off at the mouth bout BIRD FLU (which probably won;t be a big deal), and are deliberately AVOIDING this.. How we vote is something only THEY can actually change.. We can bitch and complain, but ultimately our names are not called out in the rollcall votes in congress..

It has totally amazed me how bull-headed 99% of our "elected" officials are about this whole thing.. Every time someone documents it or even writes about it, they start clucking and mentioning "conspiracy nuts"..

We ought to start using "elected" instead of elected, since we really can never be sure if the machines that put them there were rigged or not..

[helderheid]

22. good points all.

[Catherine Vincent]

23. The slots shell out money.

The voting machines shell out what?

[helderheid]

24. false sense of security?

[EFerrari]

28. I get a nice sticker that says I voted.

And people smile at me.

:rofl:

[Dookiestix]

25. What do voting machines and Vegas slot machines have in common?

Money! How to protect it and make more of it at all costs is the name of the game when it comes to voter disenfranchisement and Las Vegas revenue.

[Fiendish Thingy]

26. k&r! Big time! Finally! n/t

[helderheid]

30. I LOVE YOUR NICK!

[blue4barb]

27. Good impact from a simple, interesting chart. You hit the jackpot

finding and posting this article. Just what we needed on the heels of yesterday's "Stop the Election Day cheating..." article by Robert Steinback in the Miami Herald. Thanks!

[helderheid]

31. Please print the graphic and hand out at local meetings! :)

[helderheid]

34. :) I hope it makes the Internet rounds several million times over!

[SmileMaker]

32. A flyer made with graphics from WP

http://www.princeton.edu/~slalbert/wpelection.pdf

[Nothing Without Hope]

33. K & R. Wonderful graphic. Let's hope they're open minded when they

read the book about the stolen 2004 election and that they actually report it truthfully.

[helderheid]

35. .

[Amaryllis]

36. kick

[Trevelyan]

37. Finally, a year and a half after Bushco blatantly stole the 2004 "election

and we all sent thousands of letters to MSM including WaPo who had a blackout on the news DESPITE Rep. Conyers Hearings (Where is the mention of Conyers' report WHAT WENT WRONG IN OHIO?

and the day by day reporting of the Green Party of the obstructed attempt to do an audit of the vote in Ohio and several other states. WaPo could have helped with the recount.

I am glad they are printing this but...

[helderheid]

38. plase see this action alert

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x687635

[mom cat]

39. Wonderful comparison Thanks.